Were birthers a bunch of nut jobs?

there is no way any sane and rational person could possibly think obama was born anywhere other than hawaii in 1961. Besides being the only president who has ever proven he was eligible to hold the office(by being the only president to show his birth certificate) the state in which he as born under 2 administrations both republican and democrat have verified his birth there.

if you believe he was not born in the US, you are completely detatched from reality.

 

Whatever. Obama voters have demonstrated how entirely ignorant and information challenged they are. Being told I'm detached from reality by an Obama Voter or someone who supports what his agenda is---doesn't bother me in the bit.

 

But this presumes that nobody in the whole GOP has any brains either. As soon as he nominated to run, the Republican machinery would have been all over Obama like flies on a fresh turd to dig up anything they could on him. They could discover the church he went to was preached by a man with questionable political views, yet could find no evidence of what you seem to see as an obvious issue with where he was born

 

Yep. The republican machine lacks courage and commitment. They are also the reason we are where we are now. Funny---I don't see Obama or Democrats to blame. They do what they are supposed to do. But Republicans lack the confidence and courage to do what they need to do.

 

ok. doesn't change the fact that there is no way any sane and rational person could possibly think obama was born anywhere other than hawaii in 1961. Besides being the only president who has ever proven he was eligible to hold the office(by being the only president to show his birth certificate) the state in which he as born under 2 administrations both republican and democrat have verified his birth there.

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what did they need to do here? it has been proven beyond any and all doubt that he was born in hawaii.

 

So because they disagree with you they both lack courage or confidence. Maybe they disagree with you because you are wrong. I mean FOX alone would have put every resource available to them to uncover the truth if they thought there was something behind it. If they blew the story, it would make Watergate look like a mid day soap opera.

 

You are as obsessed by Obama's birth location as any birther. Its not a priority in my mind at all. Republicans should have educated and rammed home to the low information voters about Obama's church and what that church taught--black liberation theology. Which is an extremely political oriented theology. They should have brought up his interview that was enlightening on his view of the constitution---how it is flawed due to it only restricting government from infringing on rights instead of annointing rights as an effort of "justice" . They should have asked questions about what he thinks about the United States of America. What is he proud of and what shames him about our founding. Why didn't he put his hand on his heart when the Anthom was played---does he lack reverance?? What does he think about George Washington? The white signers of the constitution. His church didn't have much respect for our founders. Jeremiah Wright--his pastor of 20 years thinks that the U.S lied about Pearl Harbor. Does Obama? Could the Republican party have investigated and informed the population of the political and seemingly personal relationship Obama had with Bernedine Dohrn and Bill Ayers???

If the Republican party is going to join the mainstream media in censoring legitimate concerns or is going to show a similar lack of curiosity when it comes to picking our president...

 

I am not obsessed with his birth certificate. I just point out stupidity when I see it.

the republicans were all over everything you mentioned above. the majority of voters saw it for what it was and ignored their desperation.

 

I think the Republicans are acting so ludicrously that they will cut themselves out of not only American politics but the human race. For the rest of the world they already appear to come from some other planet, or species. What is the use of them?

 

that's the kind of thinking that got obama elected

thanks for being such a bumbler

 

Really? How's so?

 

people don't like looney lies like the ones birthers use

 

Point by point: every single thing you said is wrong- and most of it is a flat out lie.

A typical Birther post.

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Once again- everything you said is just another typical Birther lie.

I will just point out that you are also the poster who when promoting Birtherism called President Obama "Buckwheat"

 

Birthers are proven losers- proven in courts time after time.

Proven here on the boards each time they post.

I actually think that a large number of the most vocal- excluding the obvious con-men in it for the money- are probably legally mentally ill- Orly Taitz for instance, along with that guy arrested in the South for trying to arrest a grand jury because they wouldn't do what he demanded.

 

Yet to say that you personally believe something that is the exact opposite of what the facts show- demonstrates a willful ignorance.

If I were to say that I think that the Republican Party is a secret Nazi organization, but lets not focus on that....I wouldn't expect people to let that slide either.

The facts clearly show that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

There is no President in history that that has had his birth in the United States as well documented to the public.

Yet you think otherwise.

 

You are the one posting here in the thread in support of Birther theory.

You are a Birther- you just are a passive birther.

And like every Birther, you embrace any and every negative story about Obama.

Birtherism has always been a movement by people who were against Obama first- and just looking for a rationalization to be against him.

Claiming he wasn't born in the United States is just one of the many, many stories they spread intended to make him seem less American.

Luckily the voters have rejected Birthers resoundedly.

 

You guys are pathetic really. Sure...I will take on the label "passive birther" lol.

You don't have a problem with Jeremiah Wrights radical, anti-white, anti-American theories and sermons. Just like Obama doesn't have a problem with it. I guess that is because you hate America and all it stands for. Or....aka...Anti-American.

 

you're projecting

ever heard of the first amendment?

 

Well, we are so obsessed....you just can't stand to let go. Perhaps there are birthers and birther-skeptics. Both can't let go.

Frankly, I don't care. Not being born in the United States doesn't rank with his other faults.... I can let it slide because its not the same as being affiliated with the Nazi Party.

Though---many of his policies Hitler would have liked...like the government control over private business (car companies, student financial aide etc) , regulation of businesses, intimidation against businesses as coercion to get them behind government's agenda. Anti-gun agenda, Government controlled healthcare. Yeah---I don't let those things slide. I also don't let slide that based on his testimony before congress, Obama's Attorney General believes that hate crimes only happen to certain protected groups-blacks, jews, gays, hispanics and sexual orientation. So equality under the law doesn't happen there does it.

So many things that actually matter are going on and happening now.

 

That comment is nonsensical. Did I say the government should arrest Jeremiah Wright for speaking? Huh? Quote me where I said that? Do you even know what the 1st amendment means?

 

the bs you make up about what i wrote is what's nonsensical

 

birtherism aside, none of the bolded portion of your post is actually happening.

 

If he hadn't been born on a military base, he would be a dual citizen -- Panamanian due to location, U.S. because both his parents were U.S. citizens.

But I believe that being born on a military base, he is legally considered to have been born on U.S. soil, so no dual-citizenship for him.

Now, there are birthers who go on to argue that the only people who are "natural born" citizens are those born on actual U.S. soil to *two* citizen parents. But they're the nuttiest of the nutty. I think even other birthers mostly ignore them.

 

I came to these boards because of Birthers BS.

You equate truth with falsehood and appear to believe that both deserve equal consideration- not me.

The truth is that we have more evidence that Barack Obama was born in the U.S. than we have had for any President- and you still don't believe he was born here.

Of course you care- thats why you are participating in this thread. You believe a nutjob theory about Obama- frankly that calls in question any other claims you make about Obama.

Like all of these. You believe these and you believe that Obama wasn't born in the U.S.

Why should anyone believe anyone who is so tainted by their political bias as to believe Obama was not born in the U.S.?

 

See this is a great example of Birther mentality- believing anything and everything bad about Obama

Birthers- Obama's own personal 9/11 truthers

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See this is a great example of Birther mentality- believing anything and everything bad about Obama

Birthers- Obama's own personal 9/11 truthers