Were birthers a bunch of nut jobs?

This is absolute poppycock.

1. President Obama produced his COLB in 2008 and allowed the physical document to be independently reviewed by the non-partisan organization FactCheck.org. FactCheck.org provided high resolution images of that document that reflected it was indeed a legal record of birth issued by the State of Hawaii for Barack Obama.
2. The head of the Hawaii Department of Health confirmed that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu Hawaii and was a natural born citizen regardless of the "birther" nit-picking of the actual wording of the Department of Health's statement.
3. The COLB issued in 2008 was the "official record of birth" issued by the State of Hawaii that met the Congressional requirements for birth records issued by the States. There was never any need for the "long form" document as the 2008 COLB contained all of the information necessary to establish the natural born citizenship of Barack Obama (i.e. born in Honoluly Hawaii in 1961 and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States from birth).
4. Yes, Hawaii (and other states) can issue birth certificates for the children of US citizens that are also citizens of the State born outside of the State under the law but those Birth Certificates contain the actual location of the place of birth. For example, John McCain's birth certificate states that he was born in Panama (and was not born in the United States which means he didn't met the criteria established in the 14th Amendment for natural born citizenship because he wasn't born in the United States). The State of Hawaii cannot list a "Place of Birth" that is different than the actual location where the birth occurred as that would be criminal fraud. No evidence was ever produced that Hawaii Dept of Health committed fraud in stating that Barack Obama was born in Honolulu on his 2008 COLB. "Place of Birth" means "Place of Birth" and the State cannot "lie" on the COLB about where the child was born.
5. The Full Faith and Credit clause of the US Constitution requires all States to accept the legal records of another State and the (short form) COLB issued to Barack Obama was the official Record of Birth issued by the State of Hawaii and it was valid in all 50 States. That COLB meet every single condition under Federal Law for a Birth Record and the "long form" COLB wasn't the "official record of birth" being issued by the State of Hawaii in 2007 and later. While it contained the same information and more the original COLB that was produced and inspected in 2008 was the Official Record of Birth that every State was required to recognize under the US Constitution.

There has been much research into the "birthers" and overwhelmingly the evidence establishes that most were extremist "conservatives" that opposed the election of an African-American Democrat to the Office of President. While there were many that were too ignorant to even understand the motivation behind the core "birthers" the fact is that they were basically extremist Republican racists which is not overly surprising after the conclusion reached last year based upon a scientific study that 78% of Republicans express explicit racial prejudice.

Birther=Racist=Republican is pretty well established today as being a fact for most Americans

 

you don't know what you're talking about....

 

you're projecting your own situation

 

Indeed.

You still haven't addressed why you hate the Constitution or the State of Hawaii.

Why do you despise our Constitutional election process?

Why do you think that the State of Hawaii lies about Barack Obama?

Birthers usually have all sorts of rationalizations for why they hate these things- what is yours?

 

I told you guys that Birthers are all nutjobs.

 

I would just like to point out that your post is a dreadful display of willful ignorance, and since this information is easily available on the internet, a willful fabrication.

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Ah so you mean they are sealed from us because Obama is acting exactly like every other President, and you resent him acting Presidential?

Why do you think that this President should dance when a Birther whistles a song?

 

I don't. If I was President or running for office---the last thing I would do would be to hand over ammunition fodder for my opponents.

It is true---that informed people will not out of hand dismiss information when it comes to electing a leader. Unless they are alright with Jeremiah Wright!

 

But before you claimed that Obama had sealed them. Now you say its because Obama is ignoring Birthers, and acting exactly like every other President?

I am glad we finally agree that Obama was following the prior practice of every President in ignoring nutjob calls for his transcripts.

 

So now we are in agreement- that unlike your previous false claim that Obama had sealed his records- instead Obama has just declined to do what nutjobs have demanded from him, just like Bush ignored nutjobs who demanded his Harvard records, and every prior President declined to release his transcripts because they would be fodder for his opponents.

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So now we are in agreement- that unlike your previous false claim that Obama had sealed his records- instead Obama has just declined to do what nutjobs have demanded from him, just like Bush ignored nutjobs who demanded his Harvard records, and every prior President declined to release his transcripts because they would be fodder for his opponents.

 

Yes, if you follow the "sealed" posts--I was simply saying...that the transcripts are "sealed" from us, by Obama, because he will not let them out in the open. Sealed has many meanings---only one has to do with a Judge.

But I've never called for Obama to "unseal" or....SHOW and make available...his college transcripts.

 

They are posted right with Bush's Harvard records.

So tired of this BS double standard. Bush never voluntarily released anything- his Yale records were leaked- his Harvard records were never released- just like Obama's Harvard records-

As someone else so eloquently put it:

I am sorry but you are hideously misinformed. And I might add...there is no excuse for it. The information is there, .

 

They are posted right with Bush's Harvard records.

So tired of this BS double standard. Bush never voluntarily released anything- his Yale records were leaked- his Harvard records were never released- just like Obama's Harvard records-

As someone else so eloquently put it:

I am sorry but you are hideously misinformed. And I might add...there is no excuse for it. The information is there, .

Rick Perry never posted his grades online- they were illegally leaked.

None of the Republican candidates released their college transcripts- and none of you Obama haters cared.

But for this President- and this candidate- only- you demand his college transcripts, and not once from any other.

Wonder why?

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I am sorry but you are hideously misinformed. And I might add...there is no excuse for it. The information is there, .

 

You have posted about 6 times on the subject of Obama's transcripts- saying:

yes of course they aren't sealed by a judge. Just sealed away from our eyes by Obama himself.

What has Obama done to 'seal' these transcripts?

Nothing. Not one thing. I am not aware of any twisting of the English language that can be used with the verb 'seal' that makes a non-action into an action.

You said that Obama sealed the transcripts away- and that is of course false.

Frankly it is such a Birther thing to say.

 

Oh my goodness, you really don't get it. One poster said that Obama's transcripts were sealed. The next poster said that, NO--they were not sealed. Which could be contrued to say they were "out there" somewhere"

So I was helping out to clarify things. No, they are not sealed by a judge. But they are sealed from us by Obama who is the sole person who can---put them out there.

I am a passive birther. Passive birthers don't really give a hoot about college transcripts.

I do give a hoot if our President shares the worldview of Jeremiah Wright. Most sane people would.

 

OMFG, that's a good one.....lmao

That's one I've never heard before, congratulations.

 

Oh...it wasn't me that came up with the label. But I wear it proudly. Mainly--I suspect Obama wasn't born in the USA. But I really don't care. I care more about other things that matter. LIke Obama's world view for instance.

 

i'm pretty sure you don't have that correct either

some are just stupid

 

How was claiming that Obama sealed the records helping to clarify things? Especially since it is blatantly false?

Here is your quote:

CKW quote:
"yes of course they aren't sealed by a judge. Just sealed away from our eyes by Obama himself."

What has Obama done to 'seal' these transcripts?

Nothing. Not one thing. I am not aware of any twisting of the English language that can be used with the verb 'seal' that makes a non-action into an action.

President Obama's transcripts are sealed by law and by his school's policies- not by any action by President Obama. To claim that President Obama 'sealed' his records is just a typical Birther falsehood.

Frankly it is such a Birther thing to say.

 

This is a typical Birther Skeptic response. Just ranting and raving. I'm sorry you don't get it. Calm down.

 

What do you think about Jeremiah Wright? Obama's Pastor, good friend and mentor? Were you ever concerned that they were so close? Did you do any research on the subject before you voted? Or were you simply uninformed so much so that research wasn't an option. OR do you subscribe to Jeremiah Wrights views anyway and so you were ok with our President sharing his worldview.

 

McCain is no war hero in my book. Read the article regarding the special treatment he recieved both before and after the war. He's a first class phony...Cheers

 

you are situating your own projection.

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what difference does it make ??

 

Been dead since 2008. You mistake birther whining for an actual issue.

 

i think he's irrelevant

what world view is that?

it confirms your dishonesty

 

And what makes anything from this website credible?

McCain says he violated the Code of Conduct only when the North Vietnamese brutally tortured him. He further claims that he was so distraught afterwards that he tried to commit suicide. He has never explained why his "aid to the enemy" continued for more than three years.

Even though there are no reports in the public record from other POWs who witnessed McCain's claims of torture and heroics or his attempted suicide, the American media has accepted his version of events word for word, no questions asked."

Here is the account of a fellow POW who was arguing that McCain shouldn't be President

John McCain served his time as a POW with great courage, loyalty and tenacity. More than 600 of us did the same. After our repatriation a census showed that 95% of us had been tortured at least once. The Vietnamese were quite democratic about it. There were many heroes in North Vietnam. I saw heroism every day there. And we motivated each other to endure and succeed far beyond what any of us thought we had in ourselves. Succeeding as a POW is a group sport, not an individual one. We all supported and encouraged each other to survive and succeed. John knows that. He was not an individual POW hero. He was a POW who surmounted the odds with the help of many comrades, as all of us did.

Senator John Sidney McCain, III is a remarkable man who has made enormous personal achievements. And he is a man that I am proud to call a fellow POW who "Returned With Honor." That's our POW motto. But since many of you keep asking what I think of him, I've decided to write it out. In short, I think John Sidney McCain, III is a good man, but not someone I will vote for in the upcoming election to be our President of the United States.

You will believe what you will believe. I have lots of things I don't care for about McCain but he served honorably and I don't think that combat vets should be smeared- I think we should respect our veterans- regardless of their politics.