What can Trump do about Autonomous Zone?

Again... why do they need to teach their children to avoid police when the police brutality rate is so absurdly low?

 

It's low when you add in the white population.

When you consider black populations policed by white supremacst police forces "absurdly low" is not what comes to mind.

They teach their kids about police so that they will have a better likelihood of not being murdered - or seriously infjured.

But, I would propose that the problem is way deeper than that.

ALL communities want policing. There aren't any that don't.

But, policiing that has to be avoided, that can not safely be called, that must be protected against, that kids must be warned about - that's not policing. That's every person for themselves.

 

Let’s assume that we’re true.

Let’s also assume you are a police chief with a finite number of officers to deal with all the criminals in your territory.

Given that blacks are grossly overrepresented in the amount of violent crime they commit, would you expect to police their neighborhood the same way you would police a white neighborhood with a low crime rate?

 

You contain the high crime areas like Chicago did and abandon them to the rule of criminals.

 

I don't necessarily believe that our officers today have adequate training, adequate pay, adequate leadership or adequate support.

Not to be too redundant, but remember that my largest point is that in too many locations, the police are the enemy of the people. The police just do not have their trust.

Policing will never be successful when that is the case.

The critical element of policing is that the community must trust them, be ready to call them for help, be ready to support them when police need information, etc.

No minority community is going to be happy with, have trust for, be ready to call in a stressful situation police who are white supremacists.

It's going to be the same as if there weren't a police force.

For Floyd and many others, the police are not their police - they are sombody else's police.

 

So what are you suggesting? A minority police force for minority communities and white police force for white communities? Or just minority police and push white officers out?

How do you expect to do what you’re suggesting?

 

Better training

Weed out the racist cops

Punish cops that abuse their position

There are some other interesting options so that we don't treat every problem like a nail that needs the only tool we have....a hammer

 

And how is that different than what we’ve been doing the past 30 years?

 

Humpty Trumpty sat on a wall.. er wait... dint finish the wall...so
Humpty Trumpty sat in the stall.. in the basement... had a great fall
All the GOP, the Mark Levins, the Bimbo spokesgirl , nor even the Hannity or the Tucker horses...

Could put Humpty Trumpty together again

 

You want to maximize crime?

 

What - you think that white folks are just going to all be white supremacists? I don't believe that.

A key measure of success has to be whether a community and those policing that community trust each other enough to sit down and figure out problems together, whether when something happens, any in the community are ready to call police for the help they need.

I'm a white guy. If something happens that needs police, I call the police. They will be of pretty much any color or ethnicity. It doesn't matter. They do not necessarily agree with me, but I have faith that they are there to protect and to serve and I have great respect for them. When they follow me up some city street I fully assume they just needed to drive in that direction as I did.

There are too many places where that is just NOT the case.

How many dollars will it cost to get there? What will the police organizatin look like? How many of our current officers would fit into that? What are the steps to getting there? Sorry. I don't know.

 

You understand sarcasm?

 

But the EOC doesn't ensure everyone has a job, it leaves the actual outcomes to the "invisible hand" market which can NEVER ensure everyone has secure employment.

It SHOULD be the job of government - using the capacity of its treasury and reserve bank to issue debt free money - to ensure everyone can participate and contribute in the economy at above poverty level, because the resources and productive capacity exist , on which government can spend its own debt free money, to guarantee government's capacity to act as employer of last resort ELR), alongside whatever the private sector is doing at any given time.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/mmt-overcoming-the-political-divide.569365/

Then no more race-based protests and riots.

Now, I have offered the solution (in the link); let's see if you would rather persists with blaming the victims for their poverty, and be facing the same riots in another 10, 20, 30 years...

 

He can invoke the Insurrection Act and retake that ground. But it may not be a good move. The calculus is difficult.

 

They don’t have to be white supremacists. They just have to be VIEWED by that way.

For instance 99.1% of ALL police have zero... let me say that again... ZERO complaints against them.

Yet the perception is that there’s a large chunk of the police force who is bad. You’re a perfect example of what I’m referring to.

Even though 99.1% of all officers have zero complaints against them, you still refer to them as the “white supremacist” police force.

You see the problem isn’t the police force. The problem is that 6% of our population, black males, commits approximately 50% of our violent crime and are FAR more likely to legitimately resist arrest.

As a consequence of that behavior they have more police contacts per person, they have more police in their neighborhoods and police are more likely to take a heavy handed approach with them because of the greater risk for violence they pose.

Therefore blacks perceive they are unjustly targeted when in fact it’s completely justified. But the liberals and media need their vote and need them to stay in a perpetual state of victimhood in order to secure said vote. So they amplify the cries from the black community about how unjust they are and feed them a steady diet of victimhood.

The police are not the problem. The gross amount of violent crime blacks commit is the problem. And you can disband, defund, re-evaluate, remake, overhaul, make a new system ALL you’d like. But as long as blacks continue their pattern of highly disproportionate violent crime, they will ALWAYS be disproportionately “targeted” by ANY police force.

 

and racist.

 

Never knew when I was younger how much the blacks loved their segregation. Never thought I'd see a day when they openly called for it. Even Anthony Joshua (If you've ever heard of him), wants people to buy from their own kind.

 

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Ensure everyone has a job? WTH? No, there are no guarantees in life. How old are you anyway? We still have to do our part. If you ever worked in HR, you would know the laws do a pretty good job of making sure no minority group is discriminated against in employment. For years, the white population has made "reparations." Every time there was a job opening and it was given to a minority whether they were qualified or not, that was a reparation. Every time a student of minority status was admitted into a college to the detriment of a white student, that was a reparation. And, even though it was unfair, most people didn't complain much about it. Because that, apparently was what had to be done to level the playing field. And it was done. Now you want jobs ensured, without the worker having to do anything to help himself and no responsibility? I think that is insane.

 

Two of the officers involved in the Floyd murder were minorities. Stop dumping this on your silly white supremacy meme.

 

Trump should just wait for July 4th when the bikers go in and remove the criminals. Besides it should be fun to watch. When huge bikers show up the criminal snowflakes will drop more poop on the streets of Seattle than there is in San Francisco!!!!

 

Maybe the police in Seattle could dress up like Elmer Fudd, and arrest them. Elmer seems to scare the schidtt out of snowflakes!!!!

 

Oh, really? There were two such officers???

What the HELL do you think THAT means?

Do you think it means that the popuation being policed trusts and respects the police force?

Are you aware that the police force elected to leadership position an officer who was well known to wear white pride insignia. Do you think your "two officers" thing covers for that?

 

1. It means half of the involved offers were minorities and did nothing to stop the incident.
2. I have met very few people that are comfortable when the police are around.
3. Half of them being minorities sailed way over your head. Have someone else explain that to you.
4. The Democrat party has totally controlled the governance of the city and police force in Minneapolis since 1975 but I do agree with the lefties, it is time to change management of the city.

 

Someone needs to tell them this...."this is not a scam, are you 18 or older and want to make between 300-1,000$ a week? Then go get a damn job!"