Fearful? I think not. Fearful is feeling so insecure you think your gun is your protection. My mind is mine. I stay in hotels, eat in restaurants, meet clients and coworkers, go to movies and sometimes tourist attractions. I've ridden public transportation in NY, DC, and Chicago. Never needed a gun because I don't put myself in positions where a gun is necessary.
Fearful? I think not. Fearful is feeling so insecure you think your gun is your protection. My mind is mine. I stay in hotels, eat in restaurants, meet clients and coworkers, go to movies and sometimes tourist attractions. I've ridden public transportation in NY, DC, and Chicago. Never needed a gun because I don't put myself in positions where a gun is necessary.
No, she has a gun (Smith & Wesson Chiefs Special in .38 Special, 3" barrel) in the crossdraw rig in her waistband. If she is arriving, she isn't out yet...she just takes off in the car. (Arriving at night, the lot is enpty enough she can park away from other cars...she does this anyway, when possible.) Someone as she's leaving...most likely, throw her handbag as a distraction and, depending on the situation, either duck behind a car or draw, aim for center mass, and fire until the threat is neutralized. She has one advantage many people lack: stress does not affect her...the contrary, she is at her best under stress. (She's a better shot in tactical training than she is calm and on a range.)
My uncle thought that...then a dude came at him with a pipe in his hand and a bunch of PCP in his bloodstream. He took the ENTIRE MAGAZINE (I recall eight rounds), including shots through both lungs and one dead-center in the chest. (The low-power .380 did not penetrate the sternum.) He wouldn't have lived an hour...but he was dusted enough he didn't notice or care. He didn't go down until the last shot (aimed at his mouth) hit him in the throat & severed his carotid artery. He bought a Smith & Wesson Model 29 in .44 Magnum the next day. That pistol is currently in my gun safe.
A person like that need a head shot anyway. That is what i was saying though. Perhaps different ammo would have helped a little but the fast action and ability to stay on target are the benefit there. I am not saying that larger guns are not better but a 380 is capable in the right hands and it looks like your uncle is one of those people.
One shot, MAYBE two, from the Model 29 would have done it. Don't care what he's on, a hollow-point to the chest from a .44 Magnum will drop ANYONE.
Hell a 44 into a BP vest will knock them down but a 44 is not practical for most people as a carry weapon.
Well...my wife's friend Tina couldn't manage (she's 4'5" and about 85lbs), but not that hard with some thought. My wife could (she carries a Beretta 92). My uncle is not a big guy & he manages with a Ruger Super Redhawk in .454 Casull.
Yeah I have a SR in 454. It ain't much for self defense though. Loaded down perhaps but a full power 240-300Gr is just too dangerous to anything behind the attacker.
I don't carry anything, but hand me a gun and I can take it apart, put it together, and put a bullet through your eye if I want to. Guns are fun but I dont need one to feel safe. I never feel safe.
Perhaps 1500fps as you wont get 3500 out of a 454. 1000-1250 would probably be better because he would get more energy transfer without having a high velocity exit. The point of a large caliber is take down power. A through shot loses a bit on the exit.
Typo...should have been 1500, maybe 2000. With his handloads...he gets it. There is no "exit"...like most high-power hollowpopints, they disintegrate on impact.
Love them Frangible bullets. I honestly will not hand load anything for self defense. It is just too easy for a liberal judge and jury to put you away for murder claiming that he loaded his ammo to a level that was more dangerous than normal ammo. Funny thing is loading defense rounds is safer for everyone. Yeah between 1500 and 2000 sounds about right with 21-2200 being possible with some H110.
Purse, waistband, shoulder holster. ankle, whatever. Throw the purse "as a distraction" and the movement may cause the man to fire. That's how people die and how criminals collect guns.
Yes, the purse is INTENDED to draw his fire! By the time he realizes he shot at a thrown handbag, she is already shooting him. Please explain, in detail, EXACTLY how she should protect herself. be specific.
I almost always carry a DSLR camera. Since I have a bum knee I usually carry a walking stick, too. Frequently I carry a small daypack. I can't think of anything else I'd want to carry.
Yeah. that's what he's going to do. shoot at the purse. Not knowing EXACTLY where she is how can I tell her EXACTLY what precautions are reasonable. But how about these. Carry the purse but leave the gun, credit cards, and other unnecessary items in the car. Carry only what you need. Put a few dollars, only what's needed in the purse. Carry your cellphone in your pocket and your keys in your other hand. If accosted. Follow instructions. Speak slowly and calmly and avoid sudden movements. Offer no resistance unless he tries to force you somewhere like into a car or stairwell then drop ball and scream. Park as close to the entrance as possible but not in dark areas or surrounded by large vehicles. Walk with other people as much as possible. If you feel unsafe, call security and get an escort. If you feel unsafe call a taxi. I've ridden a taxi as few as 300 yards. If your weapon makes you feel safe, fine. But I would not trade it for common sense and situational awareness.
Isn't that the whole purpose behind being prepared? If one knows with absolute certainty no threat exsists, there is no need to be armed. If one is unsure, what is the harm in being prepared? Why do you pretend having a weapon precludes one from using common sense and having situational awareness? And if you think there are situations where common sense and situational awareness are going to stop something bad from happening, boy do I have news for you! Here is a good example. When I lived and worked in Chicago, I was often times going into "bad" neighborhoods. Even though it was against the law, I would carry my .45 in the car. While it was against the law, I was surprised how commonplace it was for people to break that particular law. Anyway, I ended up turned around on the South side of Chicago in a very rough neighborhood and in a cul-de-sac where I needed to turn around. There was a substantial number of young men hanging out at one of the houses that started to approach my car as I was trying to get turned around in the tight space. Did I know if they were armed? No, but the odds were good. That is common sense. I knew them approaching the car was bad. That is situational awareness. I knew there was no way I was going to get the car out of there before they arrived at the car. What did I do? I held the gun up so they could see it. I didn't point it at them. I just showed them that I was armed and would not be an easy mark. It worked. They shrugged and went back to their porch. Do I know what would have happened? Not with any degree of certainty. I do have a pretty good hunch they were not coming over to give me directions or to see if they could give me assistance. Common sense and situational awareness were applied, but were found to be insufficient to get me out of a potentially violent situation. Screaming wasn't going to help. Calling someone wasn't going to help. Taxis wouldn't go in that neighborhood. Every possible solution I could think of was exhausted before I pulled out my gun, and even then I went with the safest possible utilization of the gun. I was prepared to take it to the next level, but I was praying to God I would not have to. So who are you to tell me that because you take taxis when you feel threatened that I shouldn't carry a gun if I am going to be in a situation that has the potential to turn ugly? Neither I nor anyone else here is saying YOU have to carry, so what gives you the right to pretend you have the right to tell us we're wrong and shouldn't carry if we feel it is necessary?
I never said that. I said it was not wise to trade common sense in for a gun. For every example you can provide of people using guns successfully as a defense I can provide one of someone failing BECAUSE they had a gun. Walk back through the testosterone laden posts on this thread and ask yourself which if any of the people who've bragged here about their weapons would you trust to avoid the need to use a gun. I don't have a problem with people carrying guns particularly if they've been trained by the NRA. I do have a problem with people who think that their gun makes them safe. It is a false confidence that can lead to errors in judgement. sometimes fatal errors.
Then you need to learn to write more clearly because what you wrote implies that it is one or the other. OK. Provide me an example. Pretty much all of them. Very few crimes or gun mishaps happen with CCW holders. So pretty much all you have to go off of is petty insults about testosterone. Do you feel better now? I don't know of a single person who carries that thinks their gun makes them safe. It makes them SAFER than not being armed and gives them an option in some situations they would not otherwise have, but it does not make them safe. Are you just assuming people who carry feel this way just like you assume people talking about guns have to be "testosterone laden"?
Um.... nope. This thread is not about whether or not guns make you safe. This thread is about what firearms choose people carry. Start your own thread.
Just giving constructive criticism. Your post could easily (and was) taken a way you are now saying you did not mean. The onus isn't on me to read your mind. The onus is on you to write clearly and not in a way that can be misconstrued. Whine about it all you want with sentences that make no sense, but this doesn't change the truth. BTW, what is a meandings? So now you are judge, jury and executioner? Wow. You could have at least waited for all the facts to come out before spooging all over yourself trying to paint him as guilty. Where did I make that claim? Do you always throw up strawmen like that when you're getting your butt kicked in a debate? As far as the law is concerned, I am a law abiding citizen. Have you ever sped? Walked across the street in the middle and not at the crosswalk? I have never committed a violent crime. I have never stolen. I have never been arrested. So what is your point again? Oh yeah. Trying to point fingers in a pathetic attempt to draw attention away from your failure. Wrong yet again. YOU may think you know everything about someone from an online dialog, but I don't. Are there nuts out there? Absolutely. The only ones I've seen in this thread are the ones whining about guns, not the ones discussing what they carry. Does that mean once I met them I would still trust them? No. Apparently you like to point out a person's honesty and try and turn it into a fault instead of a virtue. News flash, genius. This is an ANONYMOUS FORUM! I have NEVER shown someone my gun while carrying. I can talk about it all I want here because I don't know any of these people in real life and none of them know me. So your completely retarded claim that we must be bragging about it in real life is just that. Retarded. As for knowing me, you don't know me. Just like I don't know you other than what you post. Don't pretend and quit lying. It is unbecoming of someone who is trying to pretend they are as virtuous as you pretend you are. Apparently you're unable to translate the phrase "trade your brain for a gun." Which puts you on the short list of people who will end up doing something stupid with a gun in your possession. I really do hope you survive.[/QUOTE]
