what gun control do you support?

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what measures do you support?

  1. mandatory gun registration

    37.9%
  2. pistol ban

    10.3%
  3. barrel shrouding ban

    14.9%
  4. pistol grip ban

    9.2%
  5. clip/mag max capacities (please explain)

    28.7%
  6. 3 day waiting period

    43.7%
  7. ban on automatic weapons

    34.5%
  8. ban on semi-automatic weapons

    16.1%
  9. total ban on firearms

    3.4%
  10. other

    54.0%
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  1. EggKiller

    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    Assault Lathes,,,,, I almost see the humor in that. Not too long ago I would be laughing. Probably still damn funny in most states. Unfortunately we're probably not far from the day when machine tools will be highly regulated or banned from private individuals.

    Right now as it sits a Ct resident needs a Long Arm license to buy any rifle.
    They also created an Ammunition Purchasing License to buy ammo. Hell No, I feel no infringement here.
    Pay attention to the blue states folks. Disease spreads.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, once started, there is no end, only downside. According to your State, law abiding citizens are the problem. Even criminals do not have to register weapons by law so any law passed only affects the law abiding.
     
  3. Mayor Snorkum

    Mayor Snorkum Banned

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    Wait until they pass a Travel Permit to stop people from going to a state where the Second Amendment is still in force and buying their ammo there.
     
  4. Bluebird

    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/06/ihop-shooting-carson-city-nevada_n_950599.html
    Okay here is the link again for the I-Hop massacre-the link I was talking about is the picture & caption of our recent rally that I couldn't get to open that youy insisted I was lying about.
    And I am not BOWERBIRD !
    And I am an American,born & bred.
    And you keep wanting to hijack this OP
    And there has to be a compromise somewhere on this issue.
    And just because my opinion differs from yours,all your colorful metephors are not changing my opinion.
     
  5. monty1

    monty1 New Member

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    No gun control in America is the best idea of all. Any of it is the start of the slippery slope to take away all your guns. And every angry American knows why Obama wants to do that!

    Before he drone bombs all the gun owners of course! You can't make this stuff up!
     
  6. Bluebird

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    When I said "someone", I was thinking the "Teacher" or adults.
    These are the laws that just past in Conneticut.I didn't write them,just related them to the poster that asked what they were& how could these new laws have prevented the massacre.
    I was asked a question-I answered the question with my opinion.
     
  7. Archie Goodwin

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    So if some 8 year old with the cash wants an M16, allowing that is a good idea?
     
  8. EggKiller

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    Here, if your gonna post something at least post the full article. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOIoh5TPw-I

    A Mexican national. I wonder if that's a Holder/Obama gun he used.
     
  9. EggKiller

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    Once again Mayor, I'm not seeing the humor. Chances are high your joke will come to pass. We'll need more documentation than the Soviets had. Some nice decorative, crenellated concrete walls should suffice.
     
  10. stjames1_53

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    I can't think of one state where someone under 18 can purchase a firearm, not even mail order. Sure, why not..and if he can pack it, give him a shoulder-fired heat-seeker, too.
     
  11. beenthere

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    Let's see, anyone that has used a weapon much at all can change a clip in literally one second. The most would be a second and a half. You are telling us that an adult standing outside the class room is going to get the door open and to the shooter in less than a second and a half??? What fantasy land are you living in??? Now if that same adult had a gun, I would agree with you but remember, schools are gun free zones. The gun laws Connecticut passed are silly and would not and will not stop anything.

    You answered the question in your own opinion but what do you really know about firearms??

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    Archie, do you really want to play silly games or look for something that is really going to help?? Sitting there spewing nonsense doesn't get the job done.
     
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    Then go live in Cuba and see how far your harsh words get you to the firing wall. I'll keep my fire arms thank you very much. I prefer them to what you and those of a like mind have in store for us. As I keep pointing out, you are totally ignorant about fire arms but think your opinion should carry as much weight as a police officers opinion does. And, Johnny, guess what??? As I have already pointed out, I was a reserve officer for 3 years, have 3 son-in-laws with over 50 years experience between them, I have worked with police officers for the last 35 years and over 85% of them think as I do. And you want to know something else, Johnny me lad, THEY are the ones on the front lines everyday, not you. On top of everything else I have shown how the murder rate is down from as far back as 1960 and we have more people with guns out there today than ever before and you can't seem to except the fact that in the long run more guns equal less crime because the bad guys don't like to tangle with people that might be packing. Yes, Johnny, we know that concept is to hard for you to understand.
     
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    """The government is NOT your enemy and there is no need to fear it and since I and most people just want the government to take care of us and not pose a threat to us which is not likely under our form of government""".

    So thought the German, Russian, and Chinese people, to name just three in the long history of governments killing their own people. Tko, the government is not your momma or daddy, it's there to do some good but for the most part it hurts more than it helps. And our form of government can change over night.
     
  14. beenthere

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    Neo-Com means New Communist party. As far as I'm concerned that's what they are. And, True, an AR-15 has never been an assault weapon, these poor fools know nothing about weapons, the way the function, what is or isn't accurate at what distance. All they know is what they see and hear on T.V. or the movies.
     
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    The 2nd Amendment ties the right to bear arms to a militia and at the time the militias WERE the army of the nation. Read the Enumerated Powers the Congress had the authority to appoint and train officers to the militias, see they were trained and organized during wartime and armed properly when called up. The state governors and state governments had some authority but control was Federal. So the guns you are allowed to have are under Federal approval. Since we don't use militias we have a professional volunteer armed military and law enforcement at all levels it makes this right mute. It does leave three openings a gun for use in the unorganized militia, sport weapons and home defense and a basic rifle would fit those needs like I noted a simple repeater type gun with a few rounds.

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    The 2nd Amendment ties the right to bear arms to a militia and at the time the militias WERE the army of the nation. Read the Enumerated Powers the Congress had the authority to appoint and train officers to the militias, see they were trained and organized during wartime and armed properly when called up. The state governors and state governments had some authority but control was Federal. So the guns you are allowed to have are under Federal approval. Since we don't use militias we have a professional volunteer armed military and law enforcement at all levels it makes this right mute. It does leave three openings a gun for use in the unorganized militia, sport weapons and home defense and a basic rifle would fit those needs like I noted a simple repeater type gun with a few rounds.
     
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    It was a legit question in response to someone suggesting we should have no gun control. What's your problem with that?
     
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    This isn't "Cuba". And of course YOU will keep your weapons. But that doesn't mean we aren't on our way to changing exactly how weapons are integrated into this society in the future. I'm sure that your views aren't going to change; yet, I am certain this nation WILL change (in due time).
     
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    You have no idea what your talking about, neither of those things has anything to do with making any weapon an "assualt" weapon.
     
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    Ok you want to keep and check the balance of laws. Ok who decides what needs to be checked? The left? Te right? Who? Secondly if your going to get all fussy about us defending our rights then lets do this little scenario. You are accused of murder but u did not commit the crime. Becuase its easier and more satisfying for me, im going to forgo your right to due process and be tried by jury of your piers and just lock you up. Would you be complaining that your rights had been violated? You may not like firerarms, but that does not give you the right to say which rights are worth fussing over and which arnt. I will defend to the death my right to keep and bear arms. I am willing to fight for my freedoms and the freedoms of everyone else in this country. I may not like your opinion but i will defend to the death your right to be able to have and speak it. And those rights we given to you at the end of a gun barrel sir. Your welcome.
     
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    You can also limit their freedoms buy putting them in an asylum for no reason, but that would be infringing upon their rights. Limit the individual not the masses.
     
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    Johnny we already did. We already banned assualt weapons once before. And what happoned to gun related violent crime? Nothing, the ban had no effect on anything. Why are you so adament about trying something that we already know doesnt work by experiencing it first hand?
     
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    You keep insisting that anyone who doesn't know the names of firearms & the lingo has no right to an opinion. I beg to differ.
    What do we really need to know-guns of any kind in the wrong hands,kill people.
    So,the discussion should be,how do we keep the guns out of the wrong hands!
    This back & forth argument about 2nd amendment rights & condescending attitude gets us nowhere.
    I'm interested in solutions,not more arguments.
    I actually would defend your right to bear arms,I don't have a problem with Law abiding gun owners.
    I just wish law abiding gun owners would look beyond all the rhetoric & help find solutions to get the guns out of the hands of the criminals.
     
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    And guns in the right hands save lives and reduce violent crime rates so what would be your point?
     
  25. Bluebird

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    And I would consider guns in"the right hands" the police.
    And law abiding citizens that have firearms,should not have to use them unless someone is breaking into their homes,in which case you use the firearm for protection,then call the "police".Am I right in believing that that is the proper procedure to follow.
    Or the other reason for firearms in the "right hands" is for hunting,now I always thought hunting was done in the wilderness,the woods.
    So,I would ask what your defintion of "in the right hands" be?
     
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