What has the Democrat Party done for America?

Clearly not if you're failing to recognize that slave ownership was a traditional value that, then conservatives supported.

This is true but not relevant, why the left has decided to embrace identity politics is a massive error and part of why we're in the situation we are.

For posterity:
Conservatism is a political and social philosophy promoting traditional social institutions in the context of culture and civilization. The central tenets of conservatism include tradition, human imperfection, organic society, hierarchy and authority, and property rights. Conservatives seek to preserve a range of institutions such as monarchy, religion, parliamentary government, and property rights, with the aim of emphasizing social stability and continuity.

 

Predominately because of the military. He grew domestic services and spending but that was mostly due to Tip O'Neill reneging on his promise to cut spending.

 

That's because it has been a long tedious struggle since Wilson. Obama managed to coalesce the long time effort and gave it a solid boost. The Democrats feel victory as we speak.

 

Oh good so we got another hundred years at least. LOL

 

Trump credibly campaigned for the policies that greatly appealed to the general conservative. That is why they voted for him, which is what the Trump haters haven't a clue about even after three years of it being as obvious as the sunrise.

 

Slavery in the late 1700s when the Constitution was adopted was something most all our Founders struggled with...hard to believe Jefferson wrote we hold these truths that all men are created equal....while still owning slaves...but he did. it was a horrible reality of the time, but not something that the ideals of the Declaration promoted, holding on to the ideals of the Declaration is what the Conservative movement is about.

I have no problem with your quote...obviously to be a Conservative or have those beliefs in the United States doesn't relate to a monarchy or parlimentary Govt...but a Constitutional Republic...that we were founded on.

 

Trump and credible don't belong in the same sentence together. Kudos on buying the snake oil, hope it pans out for you in the long run.

 

Maybe so, maybe not. Very hard to predict. Know that losing a republic happens much like a bankruptcy: very very slowly for a long long time, then lickety split almost overnight.

 

I put long term predictions such as this in the I don't care bucket

 

they have killed many of our industries, shredded the constitution, transferred immense wealth from people who work for a living to those who don’t, imported immense poverty from the 3rd world, decimated the rule of law, destroyed decorum and civil discourse, and have generally worked against the values that made this the freest, most innovative, most prosperous nation in the history of humanity.

oh, and they started the kkk, established jim crow and racial redlining, opposed equal rights for freed slaves, and got us into the majority of wars we have fought in.

tbh i can’t think of a single good thing they’ve ever done.

 

Your quote is kind of the standard summary of conservatism of the 17th and 18th and most of the 19th centuries. Conservatism, as it is viewed today in America by the conservatives, is a bit more constrained. Actually, to distinguish ourselves from other proclaimed conservatives we like to call ourselves "constitutional conservatives."
Fundamentally we focus on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and believe in the sovereign individual with God-given rights, a republic form of necessary government, a limited central government, the separation of powers, and an indirect democracy with "speed bumps" between the voter and the government. I could go on but you get the point. We do believe in the preservation of institutions that are necessary for the continuation of the republic, but we are open to changes in those institutions as long as they are not transient or lightly thought out changes. Supporting the institutions supports the two requirements for a republic: 1) a civil society, and 2) a striving to virtue by the people.
Property rights are fundamental since property rights are a necessary requirement to have sovereign individuals.

 

I didn't mean credible in the Trump-hating vernacular. I meant credible in the minds of the voters as someone who says what he means and means what he says, but most importantly someone who they trusted to actually try to do what he was saying and promising -- something they have had no confidence in with other candidates, Democrat, or Republican, or whatever.

 

I understand.

 

Given his "grab 'em by the *****", his name-calling, his disparaging reference to women on the basis of their appearance and sexual appeal to him, his inhumane separations of parents and their children, his sucking up to Putin, Kim, and DBS, it's mild to say trump is sub-human. And the Republicans support him completely without any criticism of any of it. They are the ones most likely to crash soon.

 

We get excuses for every bit of failed Republican policy.(trickle down ring a bell?)

This is just more of the same.

 

So Trump hasn't used race? Come on man.

BTW, I'm from Massachusetts. I'm a Yankee. My family has been Republican since Lincoln and fought for the Union. That's the real Republican party. Now the party is based in the south and suddenly they're, the South, trying to pretend that it was someone else who fought for the Confederacy and supported Jim Crow. No deal. It was the South then, and it is the South now. Why this new Republican party tries to continually pass that con off is beyond me? Political parties are what their members are, not what their name is.

 

And all ecologically sensible and healthy legislation comes from the left. The right will fight all of that tooth and nail every ****ing time. The left is also trying to take down the most anti-American and anti-Democratic piece of filth that is totally supported by the right and it's called Citizens United.

 

Geez - the way the Democrats cover up for their own misogynists like Keith Ellison, DNC Woman beater, while twisting President Trumps locker room vulgarity into a sexual crime.

I'm 71 YO and I've been married for 45 years and I still turn into a teenager when eye candy strolls by - I often remember the lyrics from an old Johnny Tillotson song -
When I see my baby
What do I see
Poetry in motion
Walkin' by my side
Her lovely locomotion
Keeps my eyes open wide
Poetry in motion
See her gentle sway
A wave out on the ocean
Could never move that way
I love every movement
And there's nothing I would change
She doesn't need improvement
She's much too nice to rearrange
Poetry in motion
Dancing close to me
A flower of devotion
A swaying gracefully

 

Do you really want to compare Trump's depth and proliferation of misogyny to that of Ellison?? Really?

 

Reagan grew the govt and increased the Drug War of govt.


Reagan was a smaller govt advocate, thanks I needed a good laugh..

 

Just reporting the facts, ma'am.

 

They have to use some Democrat that is as bad as Trump himself to look good.

 

Yeah, so you agree that what I listed is everything that the democrats have given the US.

 

Look I lived thru it, The conservative wing of the democratic party switched to Republicans after the great society programs of the 60s and the south has been republican since. They only called themselves Democrats as a republican still had the party of Lincoln associated with it.

And again, I lived thru it, Congress was Democratic both houses under Nixon. As a matter of fact McCormack was from My district

What occurred historically has little bearing on today's parties. Can you imagine today's republican party with its states rights platform going against the south in the civil war, Or a Jeffersonian democrat the believed in small federal government compared to Obama?

If you want to argue conservative vs liberal over the course of our history that would have been more appropriate.

 

I too lived through it. Many Democrats scrambled to morph into Republicans because they saw their Democrat ass was grass after the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts.