What is the end game for race realist?

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  1. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that the left wants to end racism.... but has no problem making grand wild generic accusations about groups of white men.

    For example NPR had an interview recently about the state of NY State Jails, and how the Blacks were mistreated in them. What was the conclusion they brought up to explain why the jails are in such bad shape in regards to mistreating inmates...you guessed it too many white guards and too many whites on Parole Boards....
     
  2. Thanos36

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    You can control information anymore. That's the wildcard here. Technology. It's the true meritocracy in the world, and no one can control it. But blacks will. And you can underestimate black people if you want. I've worked in technology my entire adult life. And there are more and more like me everyday. And we're growing not shrinking. Pretty soon your world view is going to be challenged in some major ways. Plus I have a guarantee strategy to make sure that blacks, and other minorities will continue to out compete whites in the foreseeable future. Now you can either be apart of this new world, or you can be left behind. Your choice. But the narrative that "blacks are inferior" and "only whites can be innovators" is going to die. And seriously I will put $1,000 on it right now, seriously no lying or BS that I'm 100% right. Because unlike you I live in the world.


    He is picking winners and losers. They're just big banks and his campaign contributors.


    Only libertarians are calling for the end of all regulations. Conservatives have pretty much abandoned all of their economic positions. They're no longer a pro free market party. the fact that they elected Trump says a lot.

    Black America doesn't have any issues. The bottom 10% of black people have issues. The rest of us are chucking along just fine, issue free. And that's where you're going to lose. You believe everything you read in the media instead of actual statistics. Now you can ask me about any statistic about black America and what it means, and I will put every argument flat on it's head. Trust me, as long as I exist, race realist and white supremacist can't really exist. I am absolute hell on your way of thinking
     
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    What a lightweight. You keep falling for it. This question is a setup. He wants you to say Egypt and Norht Africa. And then he's going to come back and say "those people weren't black, they were caucasion/arabic". Then you're going to derail the whole debate about whether or not Egyptians were black or not. And let's say somehow you were able to probe Egpytians were black. Then he's going say "well you only have 1 examples of blacks doing well, what have they done lately". And it's going to go on, and on, and on, and on.

    Stop it before it starts. Congo Empire and the Ghana Empire. Both subsaharian, unmistakably black, and were great kingdoms by all measures of what makes great Kingdoms. Also fractals were discovered in sub sahara Africa 30k years before any European discovered them. I mean there are plenty of non-Egyptian pluses for ancient Africa. You just need to study it's history, and know when not to give people afrocentric revisionist history. Africa has a legit history with legit contributors. People who say Africa has been nothing are just exposing how little they know about the continent. Expose their lack of knowledge.
     
  4. Greataxe

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    Race realists, like myself, believe that society can be better served by knowing genetic differences that are obvious to most anyone with an IQ above 100. The end game is to make the World a better informed, and perhaps a better place for myself and others.

    So knowing that my White skin is many times less protected from UV light than yours, I know to apply sunscreen to save getting sunburned and having more risk of skin cancer.

    An educator knowing that Blacks score 1 standard deviation below others can better detect cheating on standardized tests.

    A sports recruiter would know majority Black schools will provide a 5 times better chance for star football players, an 8 times better chance for star basketball players, and probably know not to waste their time for track stars in White majority schools.

    A cop would also know that Blacks have about a 10 times higher rate of violent crime, so a cop driving into Black enclaves with liberal democrat leaders and a prior history of gang violence would know their risks were exponentially greater than a neighborhood filled with old Jews and Asians.
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, believe the great Hannibal of Carthage must have been Black because Budweiser Beer said so:

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  6. Brewskier

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    No one can control it, but blacks will. You realize that statement makes no sense, right?

    How soon? Because blacks are still lagging very far behind by most metrics.

    What strategy is that? Continue flooding the West with non-whites, in the hopes of making whites minorities in their own countries? That's been going for 50 years now.

    What's stopping him from picking successful black businesses? Don't they contribute to his campaign?


    Trump campaigned heavily on rolling back regulations, especially the ones enacted during the Obama years. Whether he does this or not remains to be seen, but conservatives didn't elect him to increase regulations on business.

    Are the bottom 10% of black people not part of black America?

    I use real statistics to form my arguments. Apologists simply dismiss them as irrelevant or flawed, based on nothing. Or they make excuses for them. You are not hell on my way of thinking at all.
     
  7. Thanos36

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    My IQ is well above 100, and I still don't get it. At the end of the day, you have to be trying achieve something at the end of the day. You still haven't said what you're trying to achieve

    Who cares

    And I would ask you, why does it actually matter? What does these 15 points mean in real tangible terms. What is the capacity for information and knowledge between 15 points. Does this mean that capacity to learn is limited in score of 15 points of difference? Can you prove this mathematically? Since it would appear that differences are VERY important, then you should be able to say what this mean in neurological terms. Is there a difference between brain composition and the IQ score? If so could you explain what these are?

    Oh you don't know? Or am I "moving the goal post"?

    You still have no point, stay on topic.

    Ah oh my God, I love this statement. It's some juicy and ripe with statistical fallacy and misuse of terms. Such "exponentially". I've been brushing up on my probability so let's dive into this.

    Now I'm not going to let off you hook when you say exponential. So let's say you have something called a "threat level". There is a median threat level and then their are outiers. From 1 to 10 how does someone determine the threat level of blacks vs whites.

    Well 1 person would say that blacks commit more violent cimes that whites. Well that's true. That is a statistically and factually true statement.

    However there is 1 thing you're overlooking. Violent crime rates are actually very low in America. It's such a low volume of occurance that it actually legitimately make up less than 10% of all crimes. Only 25% of all inimates in jail or prison are in for violent crimes. If blacks are half of all violent crimes (which I consider mostly murder, for aggrivated assault and other violent crimes blacks and whites are equal), then blacks are half of something already low volume.

    Now are you still with me? If there are say 20,000 crimes a year (the number is way less than this, but I'm going to be nice to you) and blacks commit 10,000 of these. Then that means black males at the age of 17-25 (the only real age black men commit the most violent crimes) are only 5% of their own demographic. And it's only 1% or less than 1% for black people in general. So should we judge black people based on what literally 1% of the population does. And you're saying there is genetic evidence for it?

    Ah yeah, there isn't, The MAOA gene is not only found in blacks, but also asians. So there is not even a correlation here.

    Now let's hear more race realist ass pulls.
     
  8. juanvaldez

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    Your number is a little off. I would say the top 10% doesn't have issues. Chucking along just fine doesn't address the immense gap in such things as home ownership and education.
     
  9. Brewskier

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    What's funny too is they have absolutely no problem acknowledging the racial differences that give them an edge on whites. Sports Illustrated a few years back wrote a lengthy article on why blacks naturally make better athletes compared to whites. More fast twitch muscle fibers in their legs makes them genetically superior in sports that require running and speed. No cries of racism on that article. But, if anyone was to dare suggest anything that gives whites an advantage over blacks, cries of Hitler and the KKK would not be far behind.
     
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    You cited the racist "criminal justice system" for what BLM is opposing. That is a function of the Government. You defined oppression as the Government discriminating against you, which is what a racist criminal justice system would be. Your argument has completely fallen apart.

    Right, the areas with Caucasian histories.

    [video=youtube;joJb3ebHY9k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joJb3ebHY9k[/video]

    That's because you're not looking for evidence.

    http://www.jns.org/latest-articles/2016/8/25/why-europes-far-right-political-parties-are-gaining-ground#.WFBtCWfFDoo=

    Started in 1965 with a change to our immigration laws.

    People who think Obama was a good President probably won't like Trump. That's a good thing, IMO.



    I don't see what that has to do with anything. If OJ Simpson did it they did a good job of setting him up and locking him behind bars for other crimes.[/QUOTE]
     
  11. Thanos36

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    The economy is about to change in some major ways. so I wouldn't use these sort of statistics as any indicator about the future. We're gearing up for a wealth transfer, and blacks can most definitely be at the forefront of it. Now we can talk about what this means in economic terms. But I wouldn't put much stock in these numbers, things can and will change. The formula for success hasn't been written yet. And showing me such garbage shows me that you're not really thinking outside the box.




    no that's not my strategy. It's not a numbers game. It's about distributing information. Raising black children with an education in mathematics, computer science. And breaking the hierarchy. Under my plan all blacks will know calculus by 10.

    As a black man who understand STEM, who was raised poor and who raised his own IQ. I understand the secret to hacking the human mind. you guys talk about IQ, it's not important. Knowledge is the ultimate power. And what I have is knoweldge that I plan to infect every young black mind with.


    Who knows. I'm not an Obama supporter



    He also advocated anti free trade and tariffs. As well as increasing government spending. so how can he increase government spending and reduce regulation? You can't do both. And he won't. The fact that he's appointing people to offices that should remain unappointed shows he's a pro big government authoritarian and a socialist.


    Aren't white trash part of white America? See what I did there?



    no you're not

    what am I apologizing for? You haven't actually given statistics. you talked about upper mobility for blacks right now. Which is kind of funny because I'm black and I make a 10% income as a technology consultant. So you numbers mean nothing, and will continue to mean nothing. I have figured it out, and as long as I'm around I will make sure other black people figure it out too. Intellectual capital, that's the future of the economy, and I have enough of it to keep black America afloat. And bad news for you, I'm not the only one.

    where did I make any excuses?
     
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    Well saying that you're smarter than a whole race of people generally is a statement of superiority. The mind is something you have control over, you ability to learn, reason, and adapt. To say that a whole race of people lack this is a statement of racial superiority. I think people can freely admit that some people are physically better than others, because physical fitness isn't some abstraction, where intellect for the most part is.

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    Home ownership and education are not great indicators for success. How much money you have is. I don't have a great education or own a home. Yet I am considered successful because I have a great career as an automation consultant
     
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    We have only to look to Sub-Saharan Africa for the answer to the future of the Black race.
     
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    Congo and Ghana Empires. Look them up. And since we're only doing Sub Sahara, you can go ahead an look of Ethopia too. Tell me what you find when you get back.
     
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    I guess if I didn't have a great education or own a home I wouldn't consider them important, either. What do you consider folks who have an education, home and money?

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    Oddly enough, I have been reading about Ghana for the last few days, BWAHAHAHA!!!
     
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    I don't know, I make well over 100k a year, and I basically make a 10% income. And I am pretty much top in my field and get offers like all the time to work many different places. I guess that's probably not success in your book because I choose not to buy a house
     
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    "Wealth transfer", lol. Figures that robbery would be the solution. I suspect it'll play out like the "wealth transfers" in Zimbabwe and South Africa, where stolen white farms are now useless, since the new owners didn't know how to farm.

    LOL, good luck with that!

    So you're in the 5% who didn't support Obama? Since you can hack the human mind, are you going to try and get more blacks to not support the Democratic Party?

    His platform was more conservative than Romney, Bob Dole, and both Bush's. True, he's not a libertarian, but if he keeps his word on the promises he did make, like school vouchers, the result will be very conservative compared to most Republicans.

    You mean deflection? Yeah, I saw it.

    That reply doesn't make sense.

    But you're one of the only ones. Sorry, like I posted, blacks are lagging behind other groups by a substantial amount in the general sense. Maybe that will change soon or maybe it won't. I can't tell the future, only what is happening currently.

    But good for you, I'm glad you are successful.

    I listed out metrics for success and you outright dismissed them as not an indication on the future.
     
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    Around here and good plumber will make well over $100k/year. So you are living paycheck to paycheck just like the average Black. Wealth is not determined by how much you make.
     
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    Saying one race is smarter than another isn't necessarily based on ideas of supremacy. Every race has strengths and weaknesses. I think East Asians are smarter, on average, than whites, and almost every test of intelligence supports that, but that doesn't mean I think they are superior.
     
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    Are you trying to say White and Asians are genetically inferior in their ability to play basketball?
     
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    Let's see, humans were able to survive, not because of their physical dominance of other species. But because of our intellect. It is a measure of what it means to basically be a human at all. to trivialize intellect and it's overall value in human societies, is disingenious. When you say blacks are intellectually inferior, you're saying they are of less value to the human race. Now what other qualities besides intellect are of value to the human race?
     
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    Basketball.
     
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    Who is to say one race of people had to develop more physically in order to survive than another? Who is to say one race of people had to develop more intellectually to survive than another? Perhaps East Asians score the highest on IQ tests because they come from an environment where intellect is the most important determinant of survival, and the least intelligent were bred out of existence over a long stretch of time? Perhaps blacks are the fastest runners because they come from an environment where speed is the most important determinant of survival, and the slowest were bred out of existence over a long stretch of time?

    These are potentially fascinating topics that should be explored, but because of political correctness and fear of being labeled "racist", it can't be touched with a 10 foot pole.
     
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    You clearly don't know anything about economics if you think "transfer of wealth" means robbery. Transfer of wealth basically means centralized institutes that have traditionally controlled wealth will crumble, and other instruments of managing wealth will take it's place. And we're seeing it with the collapse of central banking. Which by the way has been a tool to keep black people poor for decades now.


    I'm not relying on luck. STEM is incredibly easy once you think of things logically.



    I've been a libertarian since 2004. So I guess I am in the "5%". Blacks don't support the Democrat party, most blacks don't even like Democrats. Many just tolerate them, but many don't have faith in the party. The voting block that mostly vote Democrat are black government workers who are just entrenched and old people. Young black people have mostly shown little to no faith in the Democratic party.


    Neo Cons are really not a great measure of great fiscal conservatism. And the thing is Trump is even more to the left than they are fiscally which is kind of mind blowing.


     
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    no amount of physical fitness will help you survive against other animals who are easily many times stronger than humans. The reason why we can survive is because we have intellect. You're basically saying black people have no intellect. Humans can't survive without intellect period. Without intellect humans would have been prey to all sorts of species far greater physically than they are. So when you say blacks lack intellect, you're saying that they really can't have any real value in any human society. There is no way around this statement. Saying blacks are intellectually superior is to say they are inferior humans.

    Remember intellect is of the highest value to all human societies past and present. A lack of intellect is an indication that a person has no value to their society.
    who cares what people call you? And I don't really call people racist, so let's "go there".

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    Basketball is of no value to any human society
     

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