What is wrong with "slut shaming"?

I agree with what you did in your situation.

What I don’t want to hear are the sexual preferences and history of someone I have no interest in.

 

""""Nothing is more boring than discussing someone’s sexual preferences or history."""

Tell that to the OP...

 

Uh, harassing (shaming) someone in public is a crime....and if bystanders come to the victims recue with laughter or shaming the police will arrest the harasser, NOT those who protected the victim.

 

Right, they shame him and no doubt feel better about themselves.

 

Everyone on the left seems to have fallen for the notion that a bearded man in a[ dress must be addressed as "Ma'am."

People aren't truly equal of course. Some are naturally smarter, stronger and better looking.

So the old coot with outdated prejudices is the non-conformist here and the hip bystanders the bullies. They are not likely to get their nose bloodied, though, him being an old coot.

It is very safe bullying.

 

I don't remember that, how about quoting the post in question?

 

The main reason almost everyone thought any kind of sex outside of marriage (and even an "excess" of sex INSIDE of marriage) was bad is that it leads to unwanted children, and this was pretty much an unavoidable thing until 1960, only 60 years ago. The utility of SS has a history many, many thousands of years long, vs only not even one human life time when it has had no real purpose.

 

Oh yeah because we know how rare that is today...…..

 

As posted prior, over many years, I have never heard anyone of any political persuasion IRL use the phrase "slut-shaming." Only seen it on placards and in media narratives. As far as calling women "sluts," I have heard very few men do it, 100% of the time it has been when a wife or woman they are in an "exclusive" relationship with, almost always long term, cheats. I have heard far more women than men use it, but very rarely. "Slut calling" and "Slut shaming" are mostly media created Complex consumerist-celebrity-promiscuity paper tigers for feminists or other women to rationalize impulsiveness and risky sexual behavior, to keep them in the Complex promiscuity misery vortex.

But you know what kind of shaming is NOT a paper tiger? is pervasive and constant when anyone suggests that Western women, like EVERY OTHER ADULT, should take ANY AMOUNT of accountability or responsibility for ANY behavior?

• “You’re bitter!”
• “You need to get over your anger at women.”
• “Man up!”
• “You’re afraid of a strong woman!”
• “You guys don’t have it as nearly as bad as us women!”
• “You’re just afraid of losing your male privileges.”
• “Your fragile male ego …”
• “Do you live with your mother?”
• “I’m not interested in boys. I’m interested in real men.”
• “You make me feel afraid.”
• “You are just bitter because you can’t get laid.”
• “You’re one of those right-wing wackos.”
• “You’re an extremist”
• "You're a misogynist"
• “Are you gay?”
• “Why do you hate women?”
• “Do you love your mother?”
• “You are insensitive to the plight of women.”
• “You view women as doormats.”
• “You want to roll back the rights of women!!”
• “That’s a sexist stereotype!”
• “You have issues.”
• “You need therapy.”
• “If you didn’t go after bimbos, then …”
• “I bet you are fat and ugly.”
• “You can’t get laid!”
• “Have you thought about the problem being you?”
• “No woman will marry you with that attitude.”

https://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/the-catalog-of-anti-male-shaming-tactics/

We see this -real-, not fake shaming all through this thread. Irony. We see the above all over the net and IRL every day where gender relations and gender-specific behaviors are discussed. It's fallacious and obnoxious, but mostly it's REAL as opposed to "slut shaming."

So what's all that about shaming and insecurity again?

 

I believe this is the set of posts you're referring to.

1. Where is the word sluts used
2. Where did I call anyone insecure. I said insecure people will shame other people. No where in this exhange did any one shame another person.


Question for you. Why do you think another person has to humiliate another person publicly? Shaming is publicly humiliating another.

 

The ironic thing is that the liberalization of sexual mores has resulted in less "sensual pleasure" than before.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/

and that this "sex recession" is the primary cause of the "happiness recession

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/04/happiness-recession-causing-sex-depression/586405/

Are you really going to argue that we old-fart slut shamers are the cause of this unhappiness?

 

That’s logical except in cases where maximum numbers of children are desired culturally. Then you are back to square one.

 

Anxious, weren't you?

 

It still happens mainly because even married women are still often unreasonably ashamed of taking precautions about having sex for recreation, therefore don't use birth control of any kind. Keep in mind the largest Christian denomination there is still absolutely forbids ANY kind of birth control.

 

Have you ever thought that the reason you've heard something said in so many different ways is because the people saying it are right?

 

Self righteous people are a detriment to society.
Views of a detriment to society are subjective.
And everyone is entitled to personal opinions. Everyone is not entitled to humiliate another person. Especially if they don't know them.

 

That would be up to the individual who inherited the fortune.
Not for you or I to decide.
Will the person using it on heroine affect you? Will it matter in 50 yrs?

 

Wrong. Only a crappy doctor wouldn't ask for a detailed, thorough sexual history from someone with an STD other than something pervasive and less threatening like herpes. There are several reasons for this including a) the possibility of identifying local versus non local vectors and patterns with other patients; b) the need to counsel the patient whether they should inform their other sexual partners, c) compliance with certain laws and protection against potential legal liability for malpractice, d) getting the patient to open up about aggravating factors such as IV drug use, sharing gear, etc.

https://thehollywoodunlocked.com/dj-arrested-for-human-trafficking-allegedly-giving-600-women-hiv/

 

Laughing would be the result of seeing an old fart making a fool of themselves. But yes, i guess they would feel better about themselves in that situation.

Do you think a shamer can actually be shamed?

 

I notice those in favor of shaming are also the forums biggest christians.

I wonder how many times Jesus shamed people?
1 time i can think of, when he defended Mary Magdelen.

And he did that by making them look at their inner selves.

 

It is indirect, and whether the term "slut" appeared is irrelevant. Throughout this long thread, you and others have engaged in direct and indirect shaming rationalizations against people opposed to promiscuity culture instead of simply stating your opinion, disagreeing, etc. It is an effeminate, illogical, fallacious tactic seen constantly today whenever women's responsibility and accountability for their unwise choices are raised. See the long list I posted earlier. And it's not just sex, but any time any gender issues are discussed.

 

Exactly, have nothing to do with her.
Not shame her. I agree and would likely do the same. So I guess you and I are secure in ourselves.
Not need to humiliate other people for any reason.

 

LOL, 1) those things are said without ANY knowledge of the other person whatsoever. It's all through this thread. 2) It is FALLACIOUS, a form of ad hominem, attacking the person instead of their argument/claim, and is not any kind of responsive argument.

 

Of course, don't you? Anyone can be shamed.

 

It is not indirect nor implied. Except by you.

I saw the long list in Alexander's response to you. And he was spot on.

Do you feel shamed by my post that those who shame are insecure?
If not, then I did no shaming.

One can be opposed to sex promiscuity without the need to humiliate a person.

You didn't answer my question, why do you feel the need to humiliate another person?