What Went Wrong For The DNC? Easy....

The same people who voted approval for Reagan.

 

Absolutely factless.

 

You do realize those same polls that predicted a Clinton win, actually accurately predicted an Obama win in 2012, right?

 

The race card, the gay card, the female card, the hate card, the bigot card, the mean card, the sex card,...........

None of that (*)(*)(*)(*) works when people are worried about their economic futures.
You'd have thought the dubmasses would have learned from the words of Carville from over 20 years ago,
"It's the economy stupid"

 

And Trump isn't?

 

The fact of the matter is that most Americans feel disenfranchised by the two parties. Not many people are fans of the establishment politicians who have played a big role in the problems we face today. A lot of the things that Hillary brought up during the campaign to "bash" Donald Trump really backfired. It's easy enough to see how she is a hypocrite when you compare speeches from years ago to today. She's a phony, polished establishment branded politician and nothing more. The people have spoken and said that they don't want 4 more years of the same old BS.

 

I agree. I hope the dems will now field more moderate, respectable people for elections instead of the far left elitist BS we have been getting.

 

Pretty mush.Which goes to prove what republicans have understood ALL along.
That the Real America exists out in the burbs and heartland.Not the Big cities.
Big cities house the Nation's worst Americans.The Crooks and Criminals and
Cheats.The Grifters and Slackers and Bums.Most Democrats.Most Trendies.
Not honest,hard-working Americans who belong to a Church and have a Gun
and believe in Prayer and being a Patriot.
Demonstate humility and also courage.Are more likely to be a
Good Samaritan.Not use bathrooms intended for the opposite sex.
Not run to the closest Abortion clinic.More like run to their Church.
Or the Armed Services recruitment center.
We now know where the slugs and dregs of society call home.
In HillaryLand.

 

Only in comparison to the utter farce that is this election. And I imagine it'll change throughout history. He didn't accomplish much, in spite of entering with a landslide.

 

Generals always fight the last war and politicians campaign the last election.Hillary was the wrong candidate at the wrong time. My favorite description of her was day old oatmeal with a cockroach crawling on it. The cockroach of course would be the email fiasco. Another key point for me was that hillary is not obama, and should never had banked on the obama coalition showing for her. My first real indication that Trump had a chance were the early returns showing a lower turnout of blacks. A combination of 50 years of broken promises from the democratic party along with the blacks being worse off now than they were 8 years ago created an apathy in the black community and they just did not vote. Pollsters for the most part were weighting their samples toward the obama coalition. In almost every poll I delved into they were over weighting toward the young and the highly educated. While trump may have not appealed to those groups, neither did hillary. The nails in that coffin were driven by the email leaks showing that Bernie had received a major screwing from the dnc.

DNC now has to figure out how it will move forward from this. The narrow bench they fielded in the primaries bit them square on the ass. Not only did it not allow their constituency to express their views in a open manner, it repressed a large majority of them with it's thumb on the scale. With clinton being rejected who will fill the power void of the stained dnc. The dnc needs to do some serious soul searching, it will surely take it more than 4 years to recover

 

No it wasn't this.
If Obama had been more effective at getting his policies passed you may have a point, as Obama would have pushed "socialist" policies. But as it stands, he will leave a legacy of a sub-par center left president.
Further, as I see it, Obama didn't disrespect "traditional American values" so much as he embraced our new "traditional values" which include letting people get married regardless of gender.
As far as I can tell, Trump couldn't give a fig what bathroom you use or who you marry, and this means the Republican Party has, on social issues, shifted significantly to the left.

 

He accomplished quite a bit despite Republican obstructionism as has been firmly established on this forum. And when compared to Bush, his administration has been a resounding success.


Interestingly, Bush was absent during the campaign while his mom openly condemned Trump.

 

My suspicions about black turn out being low were more or less confirmed when I went to the polls. I live in a city with a very large black demographic and also vote in a very blue precinct and there were only a handful of people in front of me when last time it was a long line.

 

I think you got your candidates mixed up.

 

The Bible Belt actually has higher divorce, murder, illegitimate births, and welfare:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/PoliticalForum/59zJaevJnwg




We have also discussed its greater use of pornography.


As one who lives in the Bible Belt, I can attest to the high rates of welfare and dissipation among the rural people here. It remains fashionable and politically correct to ascribe these type of lifestyles to urban areas but the rural areas have the same problems and are actually worse.

 

This is factually inaccurate. The only people to "blame" for the Trump victory is Trump, those who voted for Trump, and those who didn't vote.

 

I tend to lean toward being fiscally conservative and socially liberal. While I could care less who or even what gets you through the night the transgender locker rooms and bathrooms is just wrong in my opinion. But yes the GOP was redefined last evening, it is truly now the big tent party it has long claimed to be

 

And this election shows exactly how reliable accurate and credible such things as approval ratings and polls are. Meaning they are worthless

 

Under what indictment and what court judgment for what crime? Whoa, horsey!

In some other countries, because the Donald has not paid Income Taxation since the 1990s would also constitute a criminal offense, but not in the US. Because Upper-income taxation has a whole set of tax deduction boondoggles.

But of that you are curiously unconcerned about impropriety. Nope, cheating the American people with Boondoggle Tax Deductions is far, far less important than a Secretary of State who uses her own computer for emailing. An act "no other cabinet member has ever, ever done!"

And, yes, by the way - where are the 5 million emails on the RNC-emailer (used by Cabinet Members in the Dubya Administration) that have gone missing - and a prosecutor asked their whereabouts*. (See here: The George W. Bush White House 'Lost' 22 Million Emails - Newsweek)

Your sense of both crime and justice seems highly selective ...

*It's a damn shame somebody hasn't given them to Wikileaks!

 

I didn't, so your wrong there. Went Green this time around.

 

He never pandered to them at all.

They are trivial and unimportant.

That is the reality you deny

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She lost for many reasons yours are less important and you have not presented any facts which support your claim

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Absolutely true.

 

Under what indictment and what court judgment for what crime.

Whoa, horsey.

In some other countries, because the Donald has not paid Income Taxation since the 1990s would also constitute a criminal offense, but not in the US. Because Upper-income taxation has a whole set of tax deduction boondoggles.

But of that you are curious unconcerned about impropriety. Nope, cheating the American people with Boondoggle Tax Deductions is far, far less important than a Secretary of State who uses her own computer.

And, yes, by the way - where are the 5 million emails on the RNC-emailer (used by Cabinet Members in the Dubya Administration). (See here: The George W. Bush White House 'Lost' 22 Million Emails - Newsweek)

Your sense of both crime and justice seems highly selective ...

 

This is why I am cautiously optimistic. That and he is a true outsider. My main problem with Trump is Trump; in my opinion, he's a bully and someone who's not above using peoples worst aspects (fear, anger, hate) to get ahead. The really terrible "locker room talk", etc. etc.
But as far as what he's stated his "policy" (stretching the word here a bit) other than the wall, he's actually pretty in line with my center-left ideas.

 

Meaning elections in America are like a circus that does all the little towns so the children can see the clowns?

Ever heard of the Internet, and access to WikiPedia, like this one: Hillary Clinton's Political Platform

I am supposing that not only do you know how to employ a keyboard, but you know how to read ... ?

PS: For an election plurality of barely a hundred-thousand votes, the US has just colossally shot itself in the foot!

 

Such campaigning worked for Trump, just in case you missed it.