What Will Happen if Obama Wins?

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  1. skeptic-f

    skeptic-f New Member

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    Talk about crybabies! If you aren't getting your message across, either you aren't trying hard enough or your message is wrong or both. Of course, they could actually try to make Congress work in a bipartisan fashion, but that's too bizarre a concept (even though that has been the predominant history of a political regime that began around the early 1800s (prior to that it was a closed club for legislature representatives and leading men of the Revolution).
     
  2. Marine1

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    What Will Happen if Obama Wins?

    He has said he will close down the coal powered power plants, or it will cost them millions to convert which most can't afford to. So what will that do? Lay off thousands of miners. Coal fired power companies will pass off that charge to citizens in higher electric bills. Many plants will go out of business or move out of the country. Others will pass off the cost in higher prices for their product.

    He said he will make the 12 million illegals living here, citizens. What will that do? About 3/4 of them will probably go on welfare with the 15 millions of Americans already on it. Higher cost to tax payers.

    He will tax the rich more while they say 12,000 of the rich will have given up their American citizenship by the end of this year in antisipation of an Obama tax hike on them. More will leave after it happens. Who will make up for those missing tax dollars? We will, because he will then have to raise taxes on the rest of us.

    That is just a sample of what we have to look forward to if Obama wins and Dems take control of the house. How will all that effect the economy? I'll let you figure that out.
     
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    Obama’s War on Coal


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    In January 2008, then-presidential candidate Obama said coal-fired power plants would go “bankrupt” and “electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket” under his plan to tax greenhouse gas emissions through a cap-and-trade system. After Congress rejected that policy, President Obama defiantly announced there were other ways of “skinning the cat.” His administration bypassed Congress and the will of the American people by drafting environmental regulations that effectively ban the use of coal as an energy source. Abandoning this affordable American energy solution has increased the cost of everyday living.
     
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    Powerplants to be closed as a result of - Institute for Energy Research


    www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/epa-powerplant-closures/


    It's just that it will bankrupt them…” – Barack Obama speaking to San Francisco Chronicle, January 2008 ... Most of these retirements will come from coal-fired power plants, shuttering over 10 percent ... According to the Chicago Tribune, these price increases will cause Chicago-area electricity bills to go up $107 to $178 per ...


    Michigan and Ohio Hit Worst By Recent Announcements

    In our recent analysis, the vast majority of new announced retirements will occur in Michigan and Ohio. Operators in Michigan have announced more than 1 GW of closures due to EPA regulations.[6] Michigan, already reeling from record high unemployment, has warned that further closures due to the regulations could threaten reliability in both the Upper and Lower Peninsulas. The situation is even worse in Ohio, which is now facing 6 GW of closures, the most in the entire country.[7]
    Updated List of Power Plants Set to Close According to EPA’s Modeling and Public Disclosures

    The following is a list of all of the power plants that are set to close according to EPA’s modeling combined with public disclosures. A complete explanation of the methodology we used to compile this list is in the Appendix.

    EPA Regulations are Already Causing Electricity Prices to Dramatically Rise

    Pricing trends in the PJM Interconnection are showing troubling signs concerning the impact on electricity rates of power-plant retirements due EPA regulations. EPA has called PJM Interconnection’s operating region “one of the largest and most heavily dependent on coal-fuel generation in the country.” Much of this coal generation is in an area PJM calls the “RTO,” which encompasses states like Ohio, Indiana and Illinois. Last May, PJM Interconnection held its Future Capacity Auction for 2014/2015, the first to incorporate Utility MACT requirements. During that Auction, future capacity prices in the RTO increased by an incredible 350 percent. PJM concluded the vast majority of this increase was due to requirements “to meet increasingly stringent environmental regulations.” According to the Chicago Tribune, these price increases will cause Chicago-area electricity bills to go up $107 to $178 per year and raise annual costs for Chicago Public Schools by $2.7 million, $3.3 million for the Metropolitan Water District, and $5.4 million for Chicago’s city government.

    http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/epa-powerplant-closures/
     
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    There won't be any civil war or anarchy on the streets; instead people will live with Obama for another four years and work to find a viable candidate to run in 2016. Plain and simple.
     
  6. AmericanExceptionalism

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    He will appoint John Kerry Secretary of State. In that capacity, Kerry will implement the Law of the Seas Treaty (LOST), a backdoor Cap & Trade treaty. That will work in concert with the Transpacific Strategic Partnership (TPP), a treaty being negotiated in secret currently in Virginia.

    Just like in 2009, Obama is asking for two more years of $ Trillion deficits to get the stagnant economy moving forward. Did not work the first time. His 2013 budget projects $ 20 Trillion in debt by 2017, conveniently when he's ready to depart from office.
     
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    No there won't be any civil war, but if he does what he said he will do, people will remember it was Obama and Democrats that caused their cost of living to sky rocket and their taxes to go up when he said they won't. You have to know they will. His policies won't do anything to create enough jobs.
     
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    Obama came out with a budget that both Republicans and Democrats both rejected. It never got one vote in the Senate or Congress

    Senate rejects Obama budget in 99-0 vote - The Hill's Floor Action


    thehill.com/.../227857-senate-rejects-obama-budget-in-99-0-vote/


    May 16, 2012 – A budget resolution based on President Obama's 2012 budget failed to ... Republicans have hammered Senate Democrats for their inability to produce a ... Heller and Brown are both in competitive reelection battles this fall.




    BREAKING: Democrat-Held Senate Rejects Obama's Horrific ...


    townhall.com/.../breaking_the_senate_rejects_obamas_horrific_budg...


    May 16, 2012 – Had it not been defeated by Congress 513-0, Obama's budget ... III - The Senate has rejected the two remaining GOP budget alternatives, ...
     
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    Most of your post is just partisan spin but this claim is straight up bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
  10. Libhater

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    The thought of another 4 years of the worst presidency in our history coupled with what will undoubetedly be the worse depression in history will surely force riots in the streets and militias joining forces to overthrow this socialist government. But before that comes to fruition I would think that someone out there will take the Muslim out long before we reach that stage of utter despair. If either of those options fail then count America as what was once a promising beacon of hope and that shining city atop the hill as one that fell to the wayside similar to the once mighty Roman Empire. It is that dire ladies and germs. But hey, there is hope afterall since anyone like myself who realizes the mood of the American people knows only too well that the Mittster is going to win this thing in a landslide, thus preventing the riots in the streets and the takeover of a statist government led by an oligarchy of socilaists.
     
  11. stig42

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    Ok you want to murder your sides way into power ty hater
     

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