When Did Conservatives Surrender the GOP to Trumpery?

BS. The "Conservatives" who support Trump, especially neocons, consider it an "attack" on them and their "way of life" if you don't agree with them. These are the same idiots who call it a "war on Christmas" if a Jewish owned store doesn't put up Christman decorations.

 

Reckless disregard for the national debt and excessive State constraint of commerce via tariffs that provoke trade wars are among the more substantive aspects of the perversions of Trumpery and abandonment of conservative principles.

Of course, in the realm of GOP-touted "family values," government bureaucrats forcefully separating children - including babies - from parents is a conspicuous and egregious aspect of Trumpery - a practice so vile and antithetical to American decency it would have Reagan puking in his grave.

 

I dont know about all of that

I’m just telling you what I think

 

If robots are the future as liberal think then I want the robots here instead of china

The only reason unemployment isnt higher is because so many able bodied Americans are on welfare

We need to deport illegal aliens and downsize the welfare system

 

I know that Mac. I value your right to think, even when I might think differently. And unlike with many of the modern liberal democrats here, I find myself agreeing with what you think, most of the time, while I must disagree with modern liberal democrats most of the time. And I am not a staunch ideologically driven conservative, as I do not think you are either. The modern conservative with help from the changing democratic party, gave us a hollowed out, de-industrialized economy, and economic treason upon working americans. Right? So, the love of tradition, which is what conservatism once embraced, no longer defines conservatism when it comes to what made our nation economic model great for the People, tariffs to protect america and americans from other nations with billions of dirt poor people who would work for cents on the dollar, most coming from a corrupt gov't like mexico, or from an authoritarian communist gov't where the people are told what to do. And had better well do it, for their own safety.

 

Globalism and free trade are losing policies for Americans

Liberals cannot understand that

But most people in the world are poor

When we mix our economy with theirs the result is more poverty in American

 

Of course! And it is basic common sense to see and understand the truth involved. Someone termed economic globalism as a rush to the bottom in wages working people. That is self evident, and IMO, is what helped to drive economic globalism. It is nothing but the ability and means to exploit the worlds poor for their labor. Creating higher profits for a scant few, as it has grown disparity in income even higher than seen in the Gilded Age. That this is destroying working people and our middle class, creating even greater welfare spending, with more people on some form of social safety net is self evident.

I have always asked here, that if a nation's economic model does not serve the optimum number of citizens, then our own People are not being served by the people they elect to represent them, and yes, even their own best self interests, economically. For if an economic model does not serve our majority of people, but only a few at the top, who in their right mind would give us such a model? And why would they do that?

Our economic model is what feeds our own people, and to change it to where it feeds even less, which will drive up social safety net spending, as it creates even more social disorder and instability, is the height of idiocy, the height of a destructive stupidity. Why would basic common sense get trumped by idiocy? If anyone thinks our congress and executive branch has acted in responsible ways in regards to our economy, boy are they lost in partisanship.

 

Considering the current effect and atmosphere... it's pretty clear that Conservatives and the GOP are not so much like what they have claimed to be, with that "holier-than-thou" malarkey they've propagated, especially since the hey-day of the "Tea Party".

In my view, Conservatives have embraced the WORST elements of the radical Right; and installing Trump as President is one significant and tangible example of the same.

Racism, greed, avarice... you name it. America was so much better off with Democrats holding the majority of power.

People just need to VOTE BLUE!!! (At the local, state and federal levels. The corruption on-display with Republicans and Conservatives warrants the same.)

 

And isolationism gets us where?

 

That hasn't been in the case for the last 70 years.

 

Neo-nazis and other white supremacists are confronting a demographic crisis, the ineluctable rise of a better-educated, more diverse American electorate with women taking on a far more significant role. We are witnessing their Last Hurrah.

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I agreed that the budget was not in the conservative mold, but I cannot agree with your hyperbolic extensions. It is not a perversion and it doesn't then follow that Trump is the devil incarnate.

 

There isno common sense on the left

Their attidude is Who needs a job as long as the welfare system is there to take care of them

 

It is a long term problem

We have gradually embraced globalism and its dragging us down

 

No one is suggesting isolationism

America does not have to endure chronic trade deficits and a falling standard of living just so we can be one of the boys

 

Who said anything about his being "incarnate"? He's as carnal as they come, but the point is that he has savaged multiple conservative values in the GOP take-over by Trumpery.

 

Which conservative values?

 

LOL, very funny and misguided. Also uninformed. You can see plenty of conservatives criticize Trump, even in this forum. But you have to open your eyes first. If you are blinded by Trump Derangement Syndrome then you miss reality in front of your eyes.

 

Casual sexism, racism - the sort of almost unconscious behaviours and speech that we are all prone to. If we look at older books or magazines and other media we can always find something that makes us say, "oh you can't say that now and get away with it!" The problem is that for many of us we were told what was prohibited but nobody bothered to explain why. Hence we were nailed down for what we thought was perfectly acceptable speech or behaviour without knowing why. Fortunately we can be educated as to the whys.

 

there's certainly an element of truth there, but look at Amy Coney Barrett. Democrats said she was too Catholic to serve on the U.S appellate court

 

No, he drove them back by being a purposefully divisive leader that was over his head.

 

Again, you guys demean the electorate and completely conflate a watered down collegiate diploma with intelligence. No wonder 60+% of citizens think that progressives are out of touch.

 

A distant 2 and with an even less federal budget and reduced taxes, we would be even further.

 

Thanks for your

Again, I am not demeaning the electorate. I am simply stating a fact.

 

There are glimmers of an enduring normalcy in the GOP that offer hope for the Party's eventual recovery from Trumpery.