When Did Conservatives Surrender the GOP to Trumpery?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Fake.

    No one but you posits such an equivalence..
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    TDR is yet another phony contrivance issued by the Trump Propaganda Ministry to be parroted as an excuse to avoid confronting reality.

    Most Americans consistently concur that Trump stinks, and that may be upsetting for Trump worshippers, but paranoid fantasies are not a valid refuge. Trump zealots mindlessly acclaim him, the most fanatical with their "Heil Trump!" incantations of their "Glorious Leader!", but truth will prevail.

    There are still many respectable, principled, knowledgable and, above all, patriotic conservatives that have not been flipped by Trumpery.

    The prissy boys succumbing to the vapours as a consequence of all those scary "liberals!" cavorting in their noggins are hiding from the conservatives they fear.
     
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    Dragging us down? We have one of the best economies we've had in decades. We have very low unemployment. Who benefits more from globalism? The Chinese factory making widgets at $1 or the American store selling those widgets for $10?
     
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    we have a hollow economy based on spending money we dont have

    Manufacturing keeps more of our money in America rather than sending it to china
     
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    China benefits more

    We give them $350 billion a year to build infastructire and expand their military
     
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    Obama increased the National Debt more than any other POTUS is American history. Trumpery as you put it is what saved this country from communist liberalism
     
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    Obamas third term would have been the end of America as we know it
     
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    Wow, somehow making $1 is better than making $9 in profit? You have absolutely no sense of basic economics.

    As long as they are making money, they can't afford to use their military against us. Once we are no longer a customer, then we are in danger.
     
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    The issue is that costs will rise due to a spike in wages, lack of competition and companies will lay off workers due to lack of sales and Americans will not be able to afford to pay high prices. Then companies will move abroad in order to stay in business or close if history is
    any indication. Trump doesn't read so he has no understanding of history. He gets his information from Sean Hannity of all people.
    Where do you get your information?
     
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    Some people are incapable of cognizant thought - they can't understand that most Trump people are old line Democrats - these old line rank and file have been deserted by the Democrat Party and never invited to join the Republican Party. Until President Trump came along there was no one out there who would or could represent their interests and their beliefs.

    Many people can't recognize that the Trump agenda is'nt much different then the FDR agenda. Love your friends, punish your enemies and ALWAYS take care of the people who take care of you.

    I love Presdient Trump!​
     
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    Yes things made in Americ by US citizens will cost more than stuff made in china using slave labor

    But we will have more good jobs for Ametican workers and china will have less money to expand its military
     
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    .... and they probably steal almost as much from us!
     
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    Another post resulting from TDS.

    I don't like Trump as a person, in fact most people dislike Trump as a person. Trump was not my first choice. But now I like him as President. He has good policies and is shaking up DC.

    Your constant claiming that everyone who disagrees with you is a "Trump zealot" is the result of your TDS. See a doctor.
     
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    Yeah

    They send chinese to America and our companies hire them and they steal our technology
     
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    No, they said he had a history of basing decisions on her personal views, and favoring Christians, regardless of he facts of a case, whenever a Christian or Catholic was involved. I'm not sure if it's true, but that was the reason. It wasn't simply because she was Catholic.
     
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    I thinks stable, knowledgeable, thinkers such as Max Booth and George Will are keeping the intellectual aspect of conservatism alive, and not all evangelicals have sold out to the degenerate's moral turpitude. The more enduring principles and values will long outlast Trumpery.

    I suppose you could contrive a parallel (with the POTUS that is at the opposite end of the rating scale) based upon the interment of Japanese Americans and the incarceration of Hispanic children, but FDR embraced the opposite policy of Trumpery when he embraced allies and defended the US against its enemies.

    And, with the Fake lavishly cutting the taxes of the obscenely wealthy, none of them, whilst they may draw the line at his floating in their Baccarat punch bowls, are ever going to label him a traitor to his class.
     
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    No. You stated an opinion. You said that folks that do not continue to pay for classes at a college stop their mental growth. First, this is beyond ignorant. Second, this is demeaning. Third, please keep doing it.
     
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    No, we will not have more good jobs because companies will be laying off workers because of fewer sales due to high prices.
     
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    Right.... no one notices the air of pomposity around progressives.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    I said that persons who do not continue to pay for classes at a college stop their mental growth? Don't put words in my mouth.
    Persons can continue their education at community colleges and there are grants available to offset the cost. Many folks choose to finish their education in high school rather than to complete their education. Mental growth continues through education, be it social or academic. Hardly ignorant and not demeaning. Just a fact. Most of the Trump flock are high school graduates or less, yes? Look in the mirror.
     
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    Right....No one notices the air of ignorance around many in the Trump flock either.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Every American has the right to vote according to what he perceives as his self-interest, regardless of his cerebral acumen.

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    Some become upset when the empirical reality is noted that there is a vast disparity between the best-educated states and the least-educated states in how they voted in the 2016 presidential election. Some complain that it is not "pc" to note the correlation, but it is just another revelatory objective demographic factor like age, gender, race, religion, etc., and, as we can see, a significant one:
    BEST-EDUCATED STATES

    C
    1 Massachusetts
    C 2 Maryland
    C 3 Connecticut
    C 4 Vermont
    C 5 Colorado
    C 6 Virginia
    C 7 New Hampshire
    C 8 Minnesota
    C 9 Washington
    C 10 New Jersey
    T 11 Utah
    C 12 New York
    C 13 Illinois
    C 14 Delaware
    C 15 Oregon

    LEAST-EDUCATED STATES

    T 36 Arizona
    T 37 Idaho
    T 38 Indiana
    T 39 Texas

    T 40 South Carolina
    C 41 New Mexico
    T 42 Oklahoma
    T 43 Tennessee
    C 44 Nevada
    T 45 Kentucky
    T 46 Alabama
    T 47 Arkansas
    T 48 Louisiana
    T 49 West Virginia
    T 50 Mississippi

    https://wallethub.com/edu/most-educated-states/31075/#methodology
     
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    it wasn't true
     
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    Regardless of how you keep stating it does not change the level of accuracy or reflection of ignorance in your point. You're conflating attained education certificates and intelligence.
     

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