When you're up to your navel in climate change, will you continue to wet yourself?

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Tell ya what, go talk to China and India. After you've made some progress there, come back, and we'll have a chat then.

    Kthnxbye.
     
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    Irrational paranoia cannot survive without a pseudo-science to feed it.

    psuedo-science:

    a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method.
     
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  3. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    Pseudoscience according to whom, you, Rush Limbaugh, trump [the man who openly claims know everything]? Who are you? The vast majority of the world's scientists say otherwise.
     
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    The Chinese are currently kicking our ass in green technology. India is working hard to move from second and third world, to post first world.

    So in short, your argument is rubbish. They are working to change. Trumpers and their fearless tyrant are actively working against progress.
     
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    If we cut out emissions of CO2 by half, we would be doing as well as China. To catch up with India, we need to reduce emissions by about 80%
     
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  6. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    That's what makes it a pseudo-science. It's not based upon science, it's based upon group-think. It's a political indoctrination that begins as early as kindergarten.
     
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    https://nypost.com/2019/08/22/barack-and-michelle-obama-are-buying-15m-estate-in-marthas-vineyard/
     
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  8. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The ideological dogma of the crackpots vs the global consensus based upon the scientific consensus is being resolved by the unfolding meteorological reality.
     
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    Meanwhile...

    Doomsdays that didn’t happen: Think tank compiles decades’ worth of dire climate predictions
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/failed-climate-change-predictions
     
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    Dude climate has been changing since the earth first acquired an atmosphere billions of years ago. Why worry about it now?
     
  12. pol meister

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    Your claim is bogus. What matters for air quality is gross co2 emissions, not emissions per capita, and China produces 80% more co2 emissions than the US.

    http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/pollution-by-country/

    Are you pushing for real environmentalism, or for a far-left political agenda harmful to the US?
     
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    What frustrates me about what Progressives/Communists are doing with the issue of Climate Change is their messaging. They are turning into a political issue which is creating MASSIVE amounts of people who think it is 100% fake.

    After we have had fake story after fake story after fake story, each one of them was "supported" by a wide network of news sites that reverberated the same story. In this way, they would "peer review" their Fake News stories, giving them an air of truthfulness.

    People have now seen and thoroughly understand this strategy, then they look at climate change and say .... wait a second.

    The same tactics are being used in climate change, that have been used in several of the most recent Progressive/Communist hoaxes to get the President out of office.

    This has created the biggest loss of trust in .... basically everything, that we have ever seen in our lifetimes. This is going to make moving forward on the issue literally impossible, as we now have a solid portion of people who think the media is LITERALLY playing the opposite game.

    Until the rhetoric is dialed back and newer studies that ACTUALLY SHOW THE DATA POINTS are given to the public, I think nothing will happen. This has to start with Leftists stop personally attacking anyone who disagrees with them.

    You are hurting the planet by doing so
     
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    Sounds illogical at best to tell others what not to do then do that very same thing. Like dont buy a truck buy electric car while you jetset all over the place.
     
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    Please explain when and where Obama told you these things.

    If he were to tell me, "Don't but a vacation home on Martha's Vineyard!" I would find that very odd.

    I seriously doubt whether he would have an opinion concerning whether I were to do so.
     
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    You might do well to keep abreast of recent scientific research.
     
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    Ideologues in denial of the undeniable impact of industrial greenhouse gasses have a dispensation that licenses them to poop into the heavens with impunity.
     
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    Not all at the "Chinese Hoax!" network are willing to debase themselves and appear stupid.

    Fox News's Shepard Smith:

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    "Climate change is real and our activities do contribute to it.

    As the New York Times reports today, scientific studies show if the world's carbon emissions continue unchecked,
    atmospheric temperatures will continue to rise. The planet will not just be hotter but also suffer from
    rising sea levels, more powerful storms, droughts that lead to food shortages and extreme conditions.

    Supporters of the accord argue it's the right thing to do for the environment, and for people — future generations."


    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/2/15727170/fox-news-acknowledged-climate-change-real
     
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    Sure. Go ahead and show me a study.

    Same lunatics saying the same things for as long as humans have been around.
     
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  21. Natty Bumpo

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    You are free to take your lead from whatever nations you choose. Those supportive of America's leadership differ.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    No, you are free to follow global pariahs Assad and Trump in lock step.

    If you are still clinging to ideology over science, you may well be incorrigible.
     
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    Why do you believe in man made climate change? One of the following?:

    1) You understand the science enough to verify the equations are correct?

    2) You believe that 97% scientists believe it?

    3) For political reasons?
     
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    A residue of ideological crackpots aside, responsibility entities are not hiding from the scientific reality:

    Maybe the crackpots wish to stimulate mass migrations?

    The term "asylum" evokes more than one connotation.
     
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    And you're welcome to follow the people buying houses on tiny islands on the coast that are telling you sea levels are rising.
     
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