Where did the wives of Cain and Abel come from?

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  1. Incorporeal

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    Why not? You certainly don't have the authority to deny me the authority.
     
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    ... And so another thread descends into inane bickering.
     
  3. Incorporeal

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    And who started this session of bickering???? Oh yeah.. it was durandal with his inference regarding my authority... Oh my goodness.... now durandal wants to complain about the bickering? Like WOW!
     
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    Don't think Abel had a wife nor children...

    ... thus the necessity of Seth to continue the line of Adam...

    ... Cain's wife came from the land of Nod, east of Eden. Gen. 4.16
     
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    The Bible clearly states that there were other people.

    The Adam & Eve story is special. The Bible is about their descendents. Do you think Cleopatra was the only Egyptian?
     
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    Characters such as Methuselah could be shorthand for the duration of ancient empires. Remember, the Bible was written by Jews for Jews who lived under the thumb of much stronger rulers. It's a big mistake to take it literally. You have to place it in the proper cultural framework.
     
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    The interesting thing about Cain and his wife is that it's about the only instance in the Bible where the bystanders didn't freak out because the guy married a foreign woman.
     
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    Hahahaha.. That's good.
     
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    Adam, Eve, Cain, Abel, Seth...these are all the names recorded. "GOD said be fruitful and multiply."

    However, Adam and Eve most certainly had more children than the above three. They were the father and mother of ALL peoples.

    Back in those days, before the law was given, people intermarried within families and many had multiple wives.

    Incest was not spoken of yet as the law was not yet given.

    This is how the earth was populated.

    Adam and Eve and their children.

    People lived much longer back in those days.

    Not too hard to figure out.
     
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    You're kidding, of course.
     
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    Not at all.
     
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    You take the bible as literal and historic?
     
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    What "proper cultural framework" would you suggest? Of course we all recognize that you were there to give a perfect description of what was going on in the local news of that era... so tell us all about your days living among the Jews of that time.
     
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    There is a cultural framework actually... and we know a good bit about it.

    Ugarit experienced a very long history. A city was built on the site in the Neolithic period around 6000 BCE. The oldest written evidence of the city is found in some texts from the nearby city of Ebla written around 1800 BCE. At that time both Ebla and Ugarit were under Egyptian hegemony, which shows that the long arm of Egypt extended all along the west coast of the Mediterranean Sea (for Ugarit is located in modern day Syria roughly dead east of the NE coast of Cyprus on the coast of Syria). The population of Ugarit at that time was roughly 7635 people. The city of Ugarit continued to be dominated by the Egyptians through 1400 BCE.

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    The texts which were discovered at Ugarit aroused interest because of their international flavor. That is, the texts were written in one of four languages; Sumerian, Akkadian, Hurritic and Ugaritic. The tablets were found in the royal palace, the house of the High Priest, and some private houses of evidently leading citizens.

    These texts, as mentioned above, are very important for Old Testament study. The Ugaritic literature demonstrates that Israel and Ugarit shared a common literary heritage and a common linguistic lineage. They are, in short, related languages and literatures. We can thus learn very much about the one from the other. Our knowledge of the religion of Ancient Syria-Palestine and Canaan has been greatly increased by the Ugaritic materials and their significance cannot be overlooked. We have here, as it were, an open window on the culture and religion of Israel in its earliest period.



    http://www.theology.edu/ugarbib.htm
     
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    The term 'snip' is usually used when altering the quote from another source. Though I see your source at the bottom of your post, I don't see any quote marks delineating what was said at that source that would distinguish that source material from your own words. Did you write any of your own words?
     
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    I am not sure I can express these connections better than serious scholars, but the information does establish cultural framework you required.

    The king of Ugarit was a merchant prince.. and the area was a center of commerce.. They were affluent.. they had ships and chariots. Remember in 1 Samuel 8... when the elders get together and say "give us a king"? The prophet warns them against having a king. Yet the Ugarit have a well documented line of kings (in stone tablets) so we know the Israelites were not previously ruled by kings.
     
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    They are not government records and are only the opinions of people who like all other people have a vested interest in what they are reporting. The governments (which would have been secular - dealing with worldly affairs) would not promote anything other than what was in the best interest of the government.
     
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    When archaeologists and linguists can agree on their findings, its reasonable to consider.

    When they began translating the Ugarit tablets, the Hebrews clearly assimilated their gods, language and myths. Prior to the discovery of the tablets, the ONLY story was the Jewish story.
     
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    Again, what proof do you have that the Ugarits were not the same people as the Hebrews?
     
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    Yes their wives are from their own relatives at the same time early humans gynecology are still pure and not as corrupted as it is now, Adam and Eve after Abel and Cain will have many more children in fact I believe Adam and Eve live for nearly 900 yrs old?
     
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    The Nephilim are described in great detail in the Book of Jubilees and Book of Enoch...
     
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    Logic dictates that Cain and Able married their sisters !
     
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    Yes, that's what the book of jubilees says... and names them as I recall.. Apparently Abel didn't marry.
     
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    How many kids did Adam and Eve have anyway? I thought Cain and Abel were their only kids?

    I always figured that all the other people they meet outside the garden of Eden must have just been the other failures that came before them. You know God made a bunch of humans and all of them failed the "don't listen to that snake and don't eat that fruit" test. lol
     
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    Josephus, the Jewish historian, states that "The number of Adam's children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three sons and twenty-three daughters."
     

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