Where did the wives of Cain and Abel come from?

I did. Keep dancing.

There is no such animal. There is no evidence of Ouroboros before 1500 bc. Nothing even close before 3000 bc. You are wrong. Never call yourself an expert to me with piety again. Your information is grossly exaggerated.

 

I thought you read the earlier website with photos of artifacts from all over the world dating back 10,000 years.

What do you mean "there is no such animal"..

Are you claiming there are no such things as snakes or snake cults?

They just excavated evidence of snake cults in the Emirates less than a year ago.

 

Are you claiming that

Means there used to be snake cults going back 10,000 years?


Intellectual honesty. Try it... it's free.

 

SNAKE CULTS DOMINATED EARLY ARABIA

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=1058

You can make a beginning here.

 

Not a mention of the Ouroboros symbol in it or its source.


Hundreds, if not THOUSANDS dating as early as 7000BC.

Reference or admit it was a lie.

Not "snakes" or "snake cults". Not 10,000 BC, not 6000 BC. You, as a self proclaimed expert, pulled THAT SYMBOL, and 7000 BC. SURELY you have a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing reference.

 

Get yourself to the public library and a few museums around the world.

 

I have refuted your assertion, and with all of the power of the internet at your disposal, you tell me to go to "a few museums around the world" in order to try and find support for your argument.

My family deals in antiquities. I have not seen hide nor hair of your elusive 9 thousand year old Ouroboros. I have several Hongshang Zhulong in my possession, and to my knowledge they are the oldest examples, tapping out at about 3000 BC. They are the oldest things I know of, and I can show you pictures of mine. I am pretty confident that I am capable of having the conversation.

You made it up. There are a lot of people who do that on the internet. Usually they stop posting though. If you are just a masochist, I'm not your guy.

This is why I wouldn't have that first argument with you btw. Would have taken much more time to get to this point.


*For the record I grew up in the Smithsonian, I spent 2 years traveling around Europe on motorcycles, visiting museums. I have spent some time in China as well, and I guarantee I spend more times in libraries than you. I am a bibliophile. Bucuresti is as close as I got to the middle east.

 

There is no place in Scriptural Text which indicated Abel ever had a wife, or procreated. Cain is assumed to have procreated, as Scripture says he was despised of all men and had a mark on his head as he was tossed from The Garden to live some other place. I doubt Adam would have let him hook up with one of his sisters from Adam and Eve.

If Cain married someone other than a female from his own family, I am sure he married some other human not created by the Jewish God. I believe there were other humanoids living on Earth very much like God's people created in His image but were in the image of some other alien entity. Neanderthals would fit this bill.

There would be none of Cain's descendents alive today, since they would have all been destroyed in the Noaic Flood from which Noah and his family were the only survivors preserved by God because their genetic heritage had not been corrupted with other alien DNA. Scripture specifically mentions the "Nephalim" from the heavens who came down to mate with the comely daughters of human men. The idea of other aliens procreating with humans is therefore correct according to Scripture.

Face it. There is some very strange racial history which white knuckled Christians today cannot handle. Lol.

 

Why does the Koran instruct Islamists to kill all infidels if they refuse to convert to Islam? What is the name of this phoney "god" you try to serve ... ?

Lol.

 

And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
~Genesis 4:16-17

This would seem to indicate that Cain's wife was from Nod.

 

Well, no.

The jews do not come from the Adamic line.

Jesus Christ Himself tells us where the jews come from:

[SUP]John 8:44 [/SUP]Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Ye are of your father the devil.

"Of" is defined by Scripture itself as "offspring of" or "descendant of" in many places, Luke 2 for example.

The devil was a murderer "from the beginning" can only refer to Cain, who slew Abel, at the beginning.

the so-called jews descend from the line of Cain / Esau and Edom. Most of the jews we encounter at the time of Yahshua Christ are Edomite Jews- read Josephus - PM me for the passage found in his work that details where the jews derive from.


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To answer the question Where did Cain get his wife? The answer is obvious: women not of the Adamic line existed before Adam was created. Cain found his wife among them and then, once recognized as a leader, built them, those "people," a city.

Genesis 4:

[SUP]16 [/SUP]And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.



Must have been quite a few "people" if a city was built for them.

 

Dual Seedline Christian Identists can, no problem.

Understanding the fact that other "people" existed long before the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob/Israel created Adam, (Who is NOT the jewish god) is crucial for understanding or following the entire Bible.

That is, Genesis 3:15 is the key Scriptural passage that unlocks Scripture and all of significant history of Adamic Man.

 

Well I don't know where you have been, but evidence of snake worship abound from the Indus Valley to the Arabian Peninsula, to Mesopotamia, Egypt and the Levant.. and it all predates Genesis.

 

" ....... it all predates Genesis."

Well, that is impossible as Genesis starts with "In the beginning, God ..."

Nothing predates God or Genesis - the Beginning.

 

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-news/new-findings-on-snake-cult-challenge-iron-age-theories

New findings on snake cult challenge Iron Age theories



John Henzell

Jul 16, 2009

Do you need more links?

 

Regardless of the name, you do know there were people around before 3,000 BC right? Ouroboros could have been around at 10,000 BC. We have no idea where it appeared first. It’s pretty hard for thing to survive in dirt that long. Especially something that fragile. It would be horrible for us to assume that since we don’t have it, means it wasn’t there. We know life existed, but know most life goes without being fossilized. We can assume the same for artifacts.

 

Regardless of the name, you do know there were people around before 3,000 BC right? Ouroboros could have been around at 10,000 BC. We have no idea where it appeared first. It’s pretty hard for thing to survive in dirt that long. Especially something that fragile. It would be horrible for us to assume that since we don’t have it, means it wasn’t there. We know life existed, but know most life goes without being fossilized. We can assume the same for artifacts.

 

I agree that the earth was already populated when that event happened. I also don't think Abel was necessarily the first son of Adam and Eve. The Bible never directly say Abel was.

 

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Abel was the eldest son of Adam.

Cain was not a son of Adam, but of the Enchanter or Nachash.

Cain is the offspring of the enemy of Yahweh - the serpent's seed.

Serpent wasn't a slithering hissing snake - he was a Magician, Enchanter, Seducer.

More subtle than any beast of the field - cunning. We call these beasts today, people, so don't get confused.

Understanding Genesis 3:15 is the key to the Scripture.

 

I think Cain is older brother of Abel. I just revisit Genesis 4:1-2.

Who are Enchanter or Nachash? Where did you get all these strange things?

 

Abel never married. He was killed before he could. Cain married his little sister.

 

Eden was a town in what's now modern day Iraq. Adam & Eve were the town's rulers. For some reason they displeased the Assyrian or Babylonian emperor and were deposed. Eden was destroyed. Cain went on to build a new city (Genesis 4:16-17). You don't build a city for just three people.

BTW, the term "Garden of Eden" referred to most of the Middle East, including the city of Tyre in Lebanon on the coast of the Mediterranean Sea. And since the Assyrians ruled that area for most of the time it was probably a name that applied to their empire.

Ezekiel 28:11-19 (MSG) = God's Message came to me: "Son of man, raise a funeral song over the king of Tyre. Tell him, A Message from God, the Master: "You had everything going for you. You were in Eden, God's garden. You were dressed in splendor, your robe studded with jewels: Carnelian, peridot, and moonstone, beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald, all in settings of engraved gold. A robe was prepared for you the same day you were created. You were the anointed cherub. I placed you on the mountain of God. You strolled in magnificence among the stones of fire. From the day of your creation you were sheer perfection... and then imperfection—evil!—was detected in you. In much buying and selling you turned violent, you sinned! I threw you, disgraced, off the mountain of God. I threw you out—you, the anointed angel-cherub. No more strolling among the gems of fire for you! Your beauty went to your head. You corrupted wisdom by using it to get worldly fame. I threw you to the ground, sent you sprawling before an audience of kings and let them gloat over your demise. By sin after sin after sin, by your corrupt ways of doing business, you defiled your holy places of worship. So I set a fire around and within you. It burned you up. I reduced you to ashes. All anyone sees now when they look for you is ashes, a pitiful mound of ashes. All who once knew you now throw up their hands: 'This can't have happened! This has happened!'"

 

You mean Adam and Eve were thrown out of today's Iraq?

 

You'd be wrong.

Other than that corrupted verse you looked at,
Cain is never mentioned as Adam's son.

Back up a few posts and you'll find John 8:44
which will give you a clue as to who Cain's father was.

 

You might check a Hebrew dictionary.

It's Strong's #5175

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Strong's H5175 - nachash


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