Where did Trumpism come from?

Yes, he promised people what they wanted. There was a guy went to one of his gatherings. His son was a heroin addict. He told Trump he wanted recovery help and Trump went on and on about how he agreed and how he was going to set things in motion. He really believed Trump was going to do something. He did not. His son died.

 

It's difficult to know how bad Trump could be. He usually tests things. Right now he is testing both that if he loses it will be a fake election and that he thinks it would be good fighting for a third term. It is fascinating watching him. I never knew before how would be dictators managed to get there in a democracy. He illustrates how.

 

That is what they do, the far righters working with the 1%. The truth is more and more people and in the US that is now even white working class people cannot find jobs. The only way this is going to change if we don't is more and more so. In the not too distant future whichever US political party is in, most of the people of the US will be little more than serfs. Trump and other far righters blame that on the other, in particular on immigrants, those of a different perceived race, religion, and encourage misogyny and hatred of LGBT. It worked before so they believe it will work again and it appears they are right. But it does not work at sorting out the genuine problem which is Neo Liberalism moving towards Corporate Fascism.

 

Pretty sure Trump never was called upon to eulogize a ex KKK Grand Wizard. Pretty sure Trump never chastised a group of black men and told them they weren't black if they didn't support him.

Wasn't Biden in 1986 a co-sponsor of the Anti Drug Abuse Act that led to minimum sentences which imprisoned thousand of black men and woman. When they ran out of prison space Biden voted for more prison construction with the 1994 Violent Crime and Law Enforcement Act.

Haven't heard anyone say Trump was for school segregation like Biden who voted for it. Unlike Trump who supports school choice I haven't heard anyone talk about how Joe would like to see the parents of black children be able to withdraw their child out failing school and have school choice. In June 1977, Biden wrote segregationist Democrat James O. Eastland to thank him for "efforts in support of my bill to limit court ordered busing."

Biden Quotes:

1. "You take people who aren't racist, people who are good citizens, who believe in equal education and opportunity, and you stunt their children's intellectual growth by busing them to an inferior school, and you're going to fill them with hatred," he said of a busing plan that would bus white students from the suburbs to urban schools.

2. In comments reported on in The Times' story, Biden further worried that court-ordered busing would lead to a "race war" and engender resentment among both white and black students.

3.
In the quote, which appears to come from a congressional hearing related to anti-busing legislation, Biden emphasized wanting to "insure we do have orderly integration of society," adding he was "not just talking about education but all of society. Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point. We have got to make some move on this." https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/15/us/politics/biden-busing.html


4. At the Democrat debate Senator Cory Booker, who asked the former vice president to apologize. "You don't joke about calling black men 'boys.' Men like James O. Eastland used words like that, and the racist policies that accompanied them, to perpetuate white supremacy and strip black Americans of our very humanity,"

Asked if he would apologize, Biden was defiant.

"Cory should apologize," he said late last month. "He knows better. There's not a racist bone in my body. I've been involved in civil rights my whole career. Period, period, period."

47 years a politician and nothing to show for it except racism. Biden has been involved alright. He was involved in stopping the advancement of racial integration and harmony.

 

So it's safe to say you never ran a business, much less a successful one, or you'd have hammered me on it. Before COVID and the insane restrictions Democrat governors put on people, ruining countless small businesses, the odds were something like one in every five would fail within a year. Restaurants, months with the wrong approach.

Leftists blame for success and mock for failure, yet refuse to show us any proof whatsoever that they can do any better. That's how democracy works. Competition. Libs are runaway winners racing to the bottom.

 

Your reply means nothing to me. I think I must have somehow got the wrong post. I thought I was responding to a post saying something about how bad Trump might get.

Sorry about that! I have no idea how that happened, Must have been an interuption here.

 

Trump promises everything to everyone. He has repeatedly promised to release his better and cheaper healthcare plan "two weeks from now" for years. He knows what desperate people want and he promises knowing he will never have to deliver because once he gets their votes, they are meaningless to him.

 

I think its fairly simple to understand. It comes down to two things...

1. We, as a country, are overly obsessed with celebrity. The Kardashians are a great example. They have done nothing, really, as a contribution to society. Yet, they have become America's first family of television. And we see many people from the entertainment world seek homes in other countries where they can live their day to day lives without being swarmed by the public.

2. We are gullible. When a celebrity tells us how successful and rich they are - what a great business person they are - we believe them. Even in the face of all kinds of evidence, we believe them.

So, combine the two and - voila - President Donald Trump.

 

In the United States, Presidents don't usually provide personal drug rehabilitation services. We'll all have to wait for President Oprah to get prizes from the POTUS.

 

I met Sammy Davis Jr. at my house after my mom and dad brought him home from a show.
I met Rusty Warren at a cook out.
I met Jerry Lewis as he was on Broadway practicing for a script.
I met Robert Goulet at a bar as he was telling a dirty joke to Buddy Hackett in Vegas.
I met Tommy Lasorda and Nolan Ryan at a game in Fla.
All just ordinary people with no pretentiousness .

 

Your icon , Dirty Donnie, has a net worth of -$400 million, 7 bankruptcies , a con-university that was forced to close and a Foundation that was self-dealing(paying for his personal expenses, including political bribes).

The small business owner down the street who owns a deli does better than that.

 

Well he sure as hell told this man he would be making drug rehabilitation one of the big things he was interested in. He spoke to him for quite some time letting him know how important it was to him (that is to Trump). The man who is now grieving his son felt very used. Maybe most of your Presidents don't make these promises but Trump most certainly did and I saw him- and really that was just what I was replying to. Trump promises the world but does not deliver.

 

Easy Peasy!!
Where did Trumpism . . . .

Same as Ross Perot-ism


Voters tired of a 2 Party System
Of The Rich
By the Rich
For The Rich.

Remember how America Elects got our energy to get on all 50 ballots
then evaporated. Who Paid for Their diversions ​

Sure Trump's Rich Friends got richer,
but so did working people since the
RepubloCratic times of Bush, Sr. Clinton, Bush Jr., Obama.



"It's The Economy, Stupid" Bill Clinton
And it ain't all Wall St. statistics. It is our wallets too.

What part do I have incorrect?


Moi

The 10th Amendment
Get It Or Not!​

​

 

Well I'm not familiar with the incident you are referring to so I'm not sure what promises Trump made specifically to this person.

 

It fascinates me how this might be Trump's doing, a rumor he'd do this, just to send up the left. Keep them riled and careless where errors can be exploited...and the Dems' urban riots were surely such an error.

Elect us. We're gutless and will let thugs burn your city to the ground.

 

Ask that deli owner if that was the first business he or she ever started, and what they learned from the earlier ones.

 

Why ?
You mean Dirty Donnie learned how to steal from investors after the 1st 3 bankruptcies ? I see what you mean........good to see that Trump supporters admire con men.

 

I can see you refuse to learn from your mistakes and cannot conceive others might do so themselves. A loser quits on the first try. Winners continue. Winners believe in themselves, not in government.

Trump has MANY businesses. Had some as well. The few that didn't make it are not unusual since (as I pointed out elsewhere) many first-time businesses do fail. Overall Trump did not, and any attention to the exceptions are just campaign BS from whiners unable to match his success.

 

and I have told you. It was in a documentary on whether people who voted for Trump would vote again. I don't know the name. However I would expect Trump supporters not to believe anything they do not want to believe. That is one of his own best achievements.

 

Drat my reply got lost with my computer going off line!

OK I can now give you the clip from the Documentary I was speaking about. I remembered wrongly that his son was alive at this point. He had died in '14. The man was in grief and one thing he wanted was to try and get help for other kids on drugs, which I understand in his area was massive, so that their parents did not suffer as he was.



You will note that that clip does not give Trump's speech which led this man to believe he was going to set up treatment clinics and so on.

I have found what Trump really said on this link

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/trump-heroin-epidemic-217853

In reality if you listen to this objectively you can tell, Trump is just using this as another excuse for build the wall so it is true that Trump did not in reality say he was going to build treatment centres but I can also understand why this man, hearing what Trump was saying mistakenly believed he was. I also acknowledge that you did not deny that Trump did this just said you had not seen the material to show he had said it. He didn't but he did infer that to a grieving father.

 

They are not liberals, they are bolsheviks.
Liberals are people who know there are other legitimate thoughts other than their own.

 

Heh, you seem really insulted that I wouldn't take your word for it! OK fine, as I already stated, I've no idea what promises were made to that person from Trump and you didn't include it. Since my daring to even ask has your hackles up, I'll withdraw that request and just ask what that half-anecdote has to do with anything? What is the point of the story? It's not about broken promises since you can't seem to recall any.

 

Well this is a totally different story!

Trump's failure to keep some sort of promise didn't lead to the son's death, he died in 2014. So apparently Trump is responsible for that and not the person who was President at the time. Now that I know the rest of the story, I'm even more confused about what point you were trying to make.

 

I see you refuse to admit what an epic and global failure at business your crooked icon actually is. You are ignoring the evidence and blindly defending his hype: Dirty Donnie has failed in ALL of his businesses. Just read his tax returns. Year after year after year of multi-million dollar losses.

 

So?

Biden may be out to screw me even though he says he's not. Trump has made it clear from the beginning he's out to screw me and everybody like me. Who do you think I'm voting for?