White house to crack down on Rec. Marijuana

I watched the entire press conference. There is, as of Thursday, no plan to actively go after recreational marijuana.

Spicer said that the Administration was compassionate for medicinal use, but wasn't keen on recreational.

Not word one was said about any plans, at least in the immediate future, to clamp down on recreational.

 

Choice will be removed from the cartel as they will not be able to compete with a legal market so long as the government is not draconian with taxation. As a marijuana user myself I would rather buy a legal product that is regulated, tested, quality assured, and liable for any impurities as opposed to rolling the dice with cartel marijuana.

 

From 1937? It must be updated to reflect the states that have legalized it.

 

If argueing laws needs to be enforced is a bad arument then we are in a sad state of affairs. Your not agreeing with a law is not a valid legal reason for not complying with said law. That is reality. If it is bad law, there is protocol and percedures to follow for correcting it.

 

It should not be scheduled as such. Nor should cocaine as both are still used medicinally by doctors... but marijuanna most especially should have no schedule at all. It is ludicrous in the face of alcohol and tobacco which actually kill millions.

 

There are heaps of ludicrous puritanical laws. Spitting on the sidewalk. Marijuana prohibition. Sodomy laws (which include oral). It is the purview of the chief executive those laws which are executed.

 

Or even whose bodies and what parts of those bodies.

 

What part of "The White House on Thursday put states that have legalized recreational-use marijuana on notice that federal law enforcement agents could be targeting them soon" do you not understand?

 

The part where it was never said in the press conference.

 

The oddest thing about prohibition:

Those who actually want the ban are those hurt by it, and those who appose the ban are those who benefit.

No one who is pro-legalization acknowledges the devastating impact it will have on the national economics to the end the war on drugs. 10s of millions, who aren't Scarface, use the selling of drugs to supplement income lost from globalization. It is one of the many symptoms that walks hand-in-hand with the disease.

Those who are anti-drugs are the demographic of America that owns everything, and if drugs were legalized, would no doubt end up owning that industry too, via "government regulations".

Maybe the deadliest irony in history.

 

This isn't really accurate.

In the areas where weed's legal, recreationally, or medicinal, those who wish, that are/were in the underground market, from cultivation up to sales, are now able to earn legitimate (albeit only legit @ the state level) living in the legalized industry... Hell, they've already got plenty of experience...

Those still underground, still make brisk sales, since they are tax free, & able to undercut the dispenseries.

The police don't even worry about weed any more in those areas @ the underground level... Rightly, they focus on cocaine, methamphetamine, heroin, etc.

Not to mention the fact that there is also, like the gold rush days, an explosion of auxiliary markets opened & expanding now.


Win, win, win, ....

 

Trump needs to grow a Hitler style stash. Everyday he resembles him more and more.

 

I agree, as to where things are currently at.

I'm sure as prohibition ended, all the people involved in bootlegging said the same thing - for a while.

Government works for the top. If you look close enough, any "anti-business" legislation serves nothing more than a way to push out the little guy, while the big guys take the financial loss on the chin. Protection dues.

Don't get me wrong, I hope it ends up like wine. But just because people enjoy it more like alcohol, doesn't mean the government won't regulate it more like tobacco, federally.

And I'm going to be honest with you. If marijuana gets legalized, you can bet your bottom dollar cocaine will roll into the slot of the "harmless drug". It will be bigger than it ever was in the 70s and 80s. Things will get interesting. Haha

 

Not too sure about that last bit, considering the very real destroyer of lives it has proven to be, even before crack hit.

You really have to look at the economic benefit here with weed, like the gold rush. Oddly enough, precisely due to the Federal prohibition.
Auxiliary businesses, like paraphernalia manufacturers, speciality hotels, money order companies, etc., all represent the real winners from a business standpoint.

Demand is high, (pun intended, or not) and supply is low.

As for regulation, let it be what it is.

I know that my entire adult life, I have always said that I wouldn't mind paying more for weed, if it were legal... In the areas it is legal... It is more expensive... Bonus is, that one doesn't have to worry about being arrested by the local cops, lose a job due to that alone, well, you probably understand the rest for that example alone.

Additionally, the quality & purity of the product is now top notch, through state regulations, & surely, while it would, along with the added federal tax, increase the price, the quality, wouldn't drop.

Hell, to be honest, legal medicinal, & recreational weed, has actually boosted the quality of the underground market's product as well.


Govermental regulations are by a large measure, controlled by the voter. Which just adds another reason for people to vett the candidates they have to vote for.

 

When the government shuns something, it is under populist control. Government = elite control.

The higher the government, the farther the ivory tower is away from the pulse. Yes, the few local governments seem to be going forward beautifully with medicinal and now recreational. But it is still officially shunned by the federal government. Which means, for the most part, the elite are still "hands off". Major banks won't even hold their funds.

The legalization of marijuana is the only populist thing I have ever witnessed in this country that seriously changed a lot of my pessimistic views of control, but it in no way compares to the empirical evidence of government inefficiency and blatant corruption, throughout the course of my life. One doesn't need a crystal ball, or a pie chart, to know where the smart money is on, as to which end is most likely.

As to the cocaine comment - watch.

Powder cocaine is nothing in the scheme of things, much like pot has been the king of for a century. Why do you think it took off in the 70s and 80s? But like you said, in extreme amounts, deadly. There's never been a person who tried cocaine who wasn't floored by how "shockingly nothing" the experience was, compared to what was expected from all the hype. Matter of fact, with how heady modern herb is, I'd say cocaine is now way less of a dramatic experience to a new user. Only certain drugs are chill enough to take over main stream culture with normal people who aren't self destructive. The fact it was illegal was 90% of what made pot sexy to the counterculture. Most people move from pot to yay as they grow more motivated/older in life, anyway. It will fill the gateway slot.

 

There should be a crack-down on what Trump and his administration are smoking before Trump cracks up.

 

OK. Following are quotes from the Press Secretary to the President of the United States.



http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/white-house-marijuana-donald-trump-pot/

• Linking marijuana to opioids
• Stating it is an illegal substance
• Reference to abiding to Federal Laws

It's quite clear that "The White House on Thursday put states that have legalized recreational-use marijuana on notice that federal law enforcement agents could be targeting them soon"

 

You think kids can't get cannabis if they want to under prohibition? Of course they can.

I can't think of anything more unAmerican than prohibiting something for adults because it might get into the hands of children, even though it costs serious prison time to supply it to children.

 

What dobt you understand about "could".

 

"Could" is a far cry from "Would", or "Will".
By the way, that's not an exact quote from the press conference...
Thank you for essentially proving my statement.

Since cannabis is still scedule 1, "Could" has never been removed from the equation.

 

We'll see I guess.

As to filling the gateway slot, maybe Extacy, or something else perhaps.....

I mean other than tobacco, alcohol, or mom & dad's prescriptions.....

 

And the creation of a black market to exploit, in the process. Creating criminals by government edict.

 

Why should I believe that you have the power to know the future? How do you know what damage would be brought by repeal of the drug laws?

You do not.

And the historical record is that in several northern cities, when alcohol prohibition was repealed in 1934, the rates for breaking & entering and burglary and such crimes, decreased significantly.

Prohibition punishes any society.

 

Smoke weed.

 

This is true. Many sectors, private and public, use our citizenry as a commodity for their personal gain and power.