White Supremacy Shaped American Christianity, Researcher Says

Busing was mandated by the courts not the congress. The damnable and pernicious ideas of the left have always come through the courts. Trump by undoing their stranglehold on the courts, has also undone at least temporarily there ability to legislate through the judiciary

 

OK, Te... what do you propose that "Christianity" should do to ameliorate the damage of "White Supremacy"? I won't try to 'load' the question, but merely ask you what you think should be done in the year 2020 to avenge this wrong. You've got the floor....

 

It would seem the question is why you insist "white supremacy" exists other than as a majority of race, and why you think that in particular applies to any damage done to people not of that race today.
I've been discriminated against because-

I was not catholic.
I am not religious.
I am white.
I was poor.
I'm self employed and successful.
Because I'm male.
Because I was young.
Because I'm old.
Because I wasn't willing to join a union.
Because I wasn't one of the "good ol boys" club.

Add about 50 more reasons.
SO WHAT? I cannot change what those people think or do.
I CAN change how I decide to respond or behave.That IS the way the world works- nobody is guaranteed there will be no injustice, no challenges to overcome.

EVERYBODY has been discriminated against.
The ONLY group that has has vast amounts of assistance to compensate for perceived unfair treatment are black people- and that has been massive and unprecedented. It's also been acknowledged with being spit on and hated for trying.

The black community is not one group- it's at least two. The quality people among them thrive and do well- because they work, they raise children well, and they treat others with respect- which generally gets them respected. The other end of the spectrum, while only a fraction of the 13% of black people in America- are responsible for 53% of ALL murders, FOUR times the level of robbery and several other crimes as their share of the population should be responsible for. THAT is the fact that insures there will be more aggressive confrontations between police and blacks, and more black people killed in such confrontations. Blacks are responsible for most of the abortions, the single parent families raising unregulated children on welfare destined for criminal careers. The list could be very, very long. The fine blacks in our community are shamed by that trash- and hate it as much as anyone does.

White supremacy? Horsepuckey. This is an internal problem, not the symptom of an external one. We have done a great deal to help- but we cannot do what can only be done by those people themselves, and it's foolish to try. To allow them to blame others instead of taking responsibility for what only they can control is to deny them control, and enable their indefinite dependence and bitterness.

Racism was dying fast and nearly gone until it became profitable for the left to resurrect it for political advantage. That tells you how little the left cares about you, me, or the nations future.

 

I have suspected this since the early 80's. I grew up in one of those southern Baptist churches. I could never point to one thing until 1976, when I was attending the same Christian school that was run by my church. They also ran a foster care program at the "ranch" (a summer school, and later the jr and high school buildings) and I remember one young black kid who was part of the foster program. He was only the 2nd black person I had ever met (the other was a Dominican girl who just attended classes) but I noticed that our pastor would talk to him differently than the white students. Much of what the OP talks about is what I personally witnessed in this Baptist School/church. It was never overt, more like an assumption.

This indeed is the discussion we should be having. Sadly, all you will get from conservatives on this forum is more White Washing.

 

You are welcome to have that discussion with white liberals. Perhaps you can get them to polish some shoes too. For the rest of us, we have as much care for black grievances as they do for our grievances.

 

Different in what way and why? Did you know the kid?

 

You should make that your signature.

Makes it much easier to skip your posts.

 

Yes, he was a fellow classmate.

 

Yours is the best post by ANYBODY in quite a long while. I wish I could have done more than merely 'like' it. Bravo!

 

That's one question where's the other one?

 

I was 11 or 12 at the time so I do not remember any specific dialogue, but rather the tone and assumptions made by my pastor towards Stanley was different that the rest of the whites and Latino kids he dealt with. It's what I would call today a backhanded kind of charity.

So why are you interested? What holes do you think you can shoot in my own personal experiences?

 

Flamebait, racist bigotry combined with Christianity bashing.Thinly veiled as some pseudo intellectual pyscho babble BS.

 

Democrats had all kinds of justification for their slavery.

 

That is a FALSE premise, Cy, so no, I won't be addressing it.

Instead I am going to ask you if you understand the concept of EVERYONE being EQUAL under the Law of the Land?

Do you understand that the term JUSTICE does NOT apply EQUALLY for blacks and whites?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics...ustrating-how-its-stacked-against-blacks.html

So how about we address this problem first?

What is stopping us from ENSURING that black voting rights are NOT denied at the 3 TIMES the rate of the rest of the population?

Can we agree that this is grossly UNFAIR that We the People can remediate this INJUSTICE by establishing that voting rights are automatically RESTORED after ALL convicts have served their sentences?

After all what is the actual DIFFERENCE between a white ex-convict voting and a black ex-convict voting?

Is that small step towards restoring JUSTICE a step too far or is it something that YOU could live with?

 

Don't be so sure because there are some who will take it seriously such as @Seth Bullock and @Swensson. Hopefully they will contribute some good ideas.

 

I'm curious too- Why DO you wish to label speaking to a different color person as some kind of automatically negative discrimination?
I speak to children differently than I do adults. I speak to skilled people differently than I do laymen. I speak to customers differently than I do salesmen. I speak to people who are bilingual in spanish differently than those who speak no english or no spanish. I do that because I understand our differences, and I am trying to communicate, not degradate.

There will always be multiple races- and that is hardly a bad or un-natural thing, or nature would have long ago blended species of similiar characteristics. We would not have thousands of species of fish who prefer to hang with there own kind, perhaps only one kind of bird.

People ARE different. They will continue to be different. It is just as wrong- perhaps much moreso- to insist we must integrate and diversify than it would be to mind our own business and let people make their own choices, including how they chose to talk. We draw the line when what you do is unjust to others- a totally different aspect of human interaction.

Sigmund Freud said "Sometimes a cigar- is just a cigar", meaning it does not have some evil ulterior motive.

 

I'm not sure that's the right focus.
A true Christian would try to behave as Jesus would, so the notion of races and differences would be naturally alien to them.
You're really talking about religious hypocrites who pretend to be Christians while harboring hate, intolerance and bigotry in their hearts.

 

So to clarify, the pastor coddled Stanley and had lower expectations of him?

 

Very kind of you, sir- just trying to keep reality in the picture; which is getting harder everyday.

 

Sounds like you mean that if he does not want to be part of YOUR solution that is his choice, and therefore doesn't matter.
That seems to encompass the entire scope of wisdom on the left on most any subject. It's really, really getting old.

I said before- there ARE solutions, but they are PEOPLE problems far more than anything else.

Solution, step one:

Behave yourselves.

Step Two:
Stop insulting and attacking the people you ask to change. Make your points with reason and logic, not hysteria, hostility and violence. STOP acting stupidly.

Step three:
Don't assume that if you don't get your way immediately that the game is rigged.
You may just not know enough about being reasonable to be able to be reasonable and make a point; and such people cannot negotiate anything well.

(to be continued)

 

Convince blacks to stop committing felony crimes.

 

Good point. There are, right now, twice as many slaves in Africa (black slaves) as the total number of slaves brought to the US in all our slavery years.
Africans have been making slaves of Africans, AND selling them, for over 1300 years. Slavery has been "Systemic" to the African people for a very long time, long before the white Europeans ever arrived there.

Of course in "left-think"- that must be Trump's fault; or at least the fault of every white American alive today. I don't know how they will screw their heads around to get to that conclusion, but you can bet they are working on it.

 

"ay there's the rub"

 

Really? I wonder what the white supremacists would say about that...