Who Benefits During These Lock Downs Over COVID?

They slow down the spread of the virus, and thus save lives.

There would be less need for lockdowns if everyone did what the experts said: masks, hygiene, social distancing.

 

They had actual lock downs, not simply a partial lock down that seriously hurt several industries and millions of people. Australia is sparsely populated. South Korea is disciplined. It can't work in places like Europe or the U.S. The virus can't see the do not enter sign.

 

When your guy got the word that his Virus Project wouldn't be funded for FY2015 that started October 2014 ---
https://www.nature.com/news/us-suspends-risky-disease-research-1.16192

---- a fact he would have known by March 2014, he launched a project with Wuhan by laundering $3.7M through Eco Health Alliance

USASpending.gov is a legitimate source of USA spending data
https://www.usaspending.gov/#/keyword_search/R01AI110964

https://www.usaspending.gov/#/award/ASST_NON_R01AI116442_7529/

Who produced periodic reports, like

https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/w...-Emerging-Infectious-Disease-Preparedness.pdf

Nothing better than an accurate summary of your guy's underhanded activities that led to the creation of a global pandemic.

So, when during the 2016-2017 transition did your guy explain to the incoming administration that he contracted with the Chinese Communist Party to create a deadly virus?

 

A) They Dave lives
B) They Dave lives
C) ditto etc etc et

For every restraint with cooling empty seats there are a dozen Ubereats people earning money

People adapt

Meanwhile lockdowns allow tracers to do thierjob which leads to fewer overall cases which leads to a health care system that is not overstretched which means it is still there when you need it

 

Australia is only “sparsely populated” in the interior the cities are pretty densely populated

We have had several oubraks but guess what? Instead of sitting with our thumbs up our bums griping about how you have to wear a mask or social distance we fricken well did something about it

 

He didn't. The doctors did. Guidelines aren't orders.

 

Yet these tools think they're electing someone who's looking out for the little guy.

 

The data shows that Obama's 8 year malaise caused the first decrease in American life expectancy since at least 1950.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/life-expectancy

Note how Trump's tax and regulation reform policies created the inclusive economy that turned the life expectancy curve around. You delude yourself if you believe that delaying the death of elderly people with terminal comorbidities by bankrupting young vibrant people trying to make lives for themselves is somehow humane.

We have no idea how many people have died of Covid-19 since misdiagnosis to favor people who die WITH Covid-19 is rewarded monetarily and there is no statistic to establish how many people die OF Covid-19 in the US. We do know that even the exaggerated numbers are vanishingly small.

 

That was caused by the economic crash, and it changed because the economy recovered.

There are other contributing factors, like income inequality.

Blue collar families has compensated for their declining relative incomes by working more hours. From the 1960s to the crash, the hours worked had increased by nearly 300%. That ended with the crash, and those that had medical insurance through work lost it along with their jobs. It would have been surprising if that didn't change mortality rates..

 

Trump approved them and called them "The President's CoronaVirus Guidelines for America"

Trump wanted to make sure America knew they were his guidelines

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf

 

Actually, the decrease in life expectancy began between 2013 and 2014. Tax reform was passed in December 2017, most provisions beginning in 2018. Life expectancy increased between 2018 and 2019. Another factor in enhancing the quantity and quality of life was Trump's border security enhancement that he was challenged on every inch of the way.

 

I'm surprised you didn't remind me of another causal relationship for the plunge in life expectancy in the US from 2013 - 2014. 2014 was the year Obama's legacy gripped working age people by the short hairs. They lost their health insurance, were denied access to their doctors and their employers were forced to drop insurance benefits. Their cost of healthcare became prohibitive ,,, all in 2014.

 

How so? And what would be the motive for doing such?

 

"The Affordable Care Act’s (ACA) expansion of Medicaid to low-income adults is preventing thousands of premature deaths each year, a landmark study finds.[1] It saved the lives of at least 19,200 adults aged 55 to 64 over the four-year period from 2014 to 2017. Conversely, 15,600 older adults died prematurely because of state decisions not to expand Medicaid. (See Figure 1; see Table 1 for state-by-state estimates.) The lifesaving impacts of Medicaid expansion are large: an estimated 39 to 64 percent reduction in annual mortality rates for older adults gaining coverage."
https://www.cbpp.org/research/healt...saved-at-least-19000-lives-new-research-finds

 

Do you have a link for that?

Thanks.

 

By way of not only his early failure (January, February) to bring about measures that would have contained the virus, but also by his ongoing failure to so much as demand that all people wear masks. His inaction - indeed his callous disregard for human life has obviously exacerbated the pandemic within the US, thereby extending the need for lockdowns and the like that have negatively affected various types of small businesses.

For his part, and although his action was dictated by Trump, Steve Mnuchin's order that the $455 billion originally set aside for small businesses and local governments be returned to the Treasury will of course destroy many small businesses and local governments.

 

The man has never understood his own best interests.

 

The CARES Act has provided billions to the 'healthcare' industry. $13000 per 'covid' diagnosis admission, $39000 for every patient put on a vent. God only knows how much the PCR testing industry has made.

What a beautiful Scamdemic! Plundering the treasury on a magnificent scale.

 

I posted the chart that clearly displays how life expectancy tanked with the imposition of ACA on Americans who had previously enjoyed liberty. Medicaid saved no one in need since no one was ever turned away from a hospital emergency room.
cbpp is not a reliable source on this subject. They have an agenda that's purely political which is disqualifying.

 

1) That chart is not enough to make your case. Need a link to the study it's based on.

2) They are Progressive, I don't have a problem with that. But I do have a problem with assertions that have nothing but their political agenda to back them up.

Frankly, that's an interesting study, any attack is going to depend on their methodology, meaning their use of data. I don't see an obvious problem with it, but that means you need to find peer review that is critical of their methodology for some reason.

On the surface, when you give a crapload of people access to regular healthcare, you would expect their stats to improve. Just common sense.

OTOH, your "inclusive economy" argument runs smack dab into Covid. Losing jobs means losing health insurance. IOW, if we're looking at Trump's pouring money into the economy, that's a 'sugar high' and doomed to be temporary. Given Trump's dreadful handling of the Covid virus, a plus that was about to turn into a minus.

 

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Merely stated it has proven to work

 

Failure and ineptitude doesn’t mean they “want” to destroy small businesses.

 

You are of course correct with respect to Trump's ineptitude-induced failure, ECA. But that does not speak to his demand for the return of the $455 billion set aside by congress to help small businesses and local government. That was premeditated and obviously meant to cause the failure of thousands of small businesses and local governments.

 

Why would he want to destroy small businesses? What’s his end game? What is there to gain by doing such? If anything, the economy would probably implode if small businesses failed.