Who do you consider white? Is white a valid race?

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  1. Ovadia

    Ovadia New Member

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    So it doesn't depend on region but on skin color? That would mean certain ashkenazi jews are not white either correct? The ones with dark skin that is.

    Check out these ashkenazi jews.

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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    whhy do you care soo much to prove that some Jews are white?

    yes, most European Jews are white people. happy?
     
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    Im not trying to prove that jews are white. Im trying to say that it doesn't matter if you are jewish which country you come from, that doesn't determine your race. If european jews are white, then so are moroccan and iraqi jews.. The whole premise of nazism was to get rid of the european jews because they were viewed as non white, they had the same coloring in most cases as moroccan and iraqi jews.

    I don't see how this ashkenazi jew is any 'whiter' than the iraqi jews I posted, or any 'whiter' than your average italian or greek.
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    These ashkenazi are not any whiter than syrian or iraqi jews.

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    interesting, not many ppl know that.
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    Of course they arent jewish, they never converted to judaism!

    Why would an Israelite need to convert, lol.

    Iraq was invade by many ppl and the european ones are probably gutian and the asian looking ones are probably persians and greeks.
     
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    Ovadia New Member

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    Jews are not edmoties, look:

    in the time of Nebuchadnezzar II the Edomites helped plunder Jerusalem and slaughter the Judaeans.[30] For this reason the Prophets denounced Edom violently

    According to the Torah,[33] the congregation could not receive descendants of a marriage between an Israelite and an Edomite until the fourth generation.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom#Biblical_Edom

    The entire book of obadiah is dedicated to the judgement of edom for persecuting the jews.
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    whats your point? he's clearly a convert to judaism.
     
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    Baghdadi Jews are descended from Jews taken captive by nebuchadnezzar, jew means judean. I'm not talking about judaism.

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    No, he is baghdadi jewish, we never converted to judaism, especially not from europe. There weren't any swiss or even italians in iraq in all of babylonian jewish history lol
     
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    sure jews are not edomites, jewish ppl though, thats another matter and the general consensus is that they are edomites. idont see why its so bad to be connected to Esau, he was jakes brother!
     
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    lol, converts which ever way you look at it, followers of a religion called judaism/

    iraqi jewsih ppl are converts, following the faith of Israelites in Iraq who became lost for whatever reason, maybe jewish ppl helped them lose that identity who knows, it happened in america, why not iraq, ppl are the same all over the world.
     
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    The Jews are Jewish people. Same thing.

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    Except genetic testing shows we (iraqi jews) are more related to other jews around the globe than to europeans. You have no evidence to back up your claim that iraqi jews are converts. All historians know we come from the babylonian captivity, we are called bavlim in hebrew (babylonian jews).
     
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    On this chart the White cluster is clear, distinct from Turks and Semites. Look at the clear space between Greeks and Turks. Jews scatter between those clusters.
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    see?

    thats your tradition right there, thats not mine or the other mans. Thats a false ideology.
     
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    See this chart clearly shows that ashkenazi jews, sefaradic moroccan jews, and syrian jews cluster the closest together. This what I have always been saying. And it also backs up what I have said that Iraqi jews cluster closest with Iranian jews, caucasians (azeri jews, armenian jews, georgian jews), and assyrians. Thanks!!!
     
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    except that doesnt AND WILL NEVER prove they are Israelites, period. iraqi jewsih ppl are converts end of story, its as plain as your face in the mirror, they follow judasim, THEY CONVERTED TO IT! no other way around it I<
     
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    Its not false ideology. Ask any middle eastern jew they will tell you jews are jewish. lol
     
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    First off, my face is brown. Secondly, you have provided no proof that iraqi jewish people are converts. Every known historical record both in jewish tradition and non jewish tradition shows we come from babylonian exiles.

    Also, it does prove israelite ancestry how else would moroccans and ashkenazi plot right next to each other, even on top of each other on genetic plots? They share the same ancestry which is hebrew. What other ancestry could it be?

    Many, many iraqi jews are brown anyway.

    Like these.

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    Some ashkenazi jews are just as dark skinned as we are.
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    Yes thanks!

    just proves what ive been sayin, descended from Jakes brother Esau. Why not from Jake?? Well, they dont fit the physical characteristics of Israel, meaning the curses that would befall Israel AS EXPLAINED IN DEUTERONOMY, read. Take into slavery INTO A LAND THEY DONT KNOW! Shall irepeat that..A LAnd tHEY< nOR thEIr fathers knOw, WOULD BE TAKEN INTO V+CAPTIVITY>

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    your tradition, not mine, thats false.
     
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    Hmm, Esau?
     
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    personally, if iwas you iwould accept that because as of now, this whole thread and everything that it promises is a scam. its a big scam and if ppl want to know they need to read about it. This whole jewish religion and its supposed lineal descent from israel is a scam, the same kind of scam that the western world is falling for in regards to the banking system and its pyramid selling, based BLIND FAITH, that is destructive, faith in a false god ( paper dollars).

    I know.

    Do you know the value of Your Dollar Bill?
     
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    Why do they all have names like yaakov (jacob) yosef if they are from esau? Wouldn't they name their kids after esau rather than yakov?

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    This sounds like moorish science doctrine which is a scam. They teach that jews didn't exist until 500 years ago. They also praise hitler while denying the holocaust at the same time. They are obsessed with edom as well.
     
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    No, the bible even states the edomites helped the babylonians send the jews into slavery. Thats how we ended up in babylon. This proves we are not edomites.
     
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    Just FYI!

    White and Caucasian are terms that have been widely termed as the same. But it is only a misconception. A White is never called as Caucasian whereas a Caucasian can be called as white.

    When comparing the two races, Caucasian is a larger race when compared to the other. The Caucasian race consists of North Africans, Arabs, Whites, Somalians, some people in India and Ethiopians. On the other hand, white are mostly people who belong to Europe.

    It should also be noted that though people in North Africa and South Asia can be technically called as Caucasian, they are not considered so as they have darker features.


    Read more: Difference Between White and Caucasian | Difference Between | White vs Caucasian http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-white-and-caucasian/#ixzz33WmGzBZy
     
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    You have this backwards. Whites are Caucasoid (Caucasian means from the Caucasus). Caucasoids include South Asian Indians, North Africns, ME, and Europeans. So not all Caucasoids are White.
     
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    Just FYI!


    White and Caucasian are terms that have been widely termed as the same. But it is only a misconception. A White is never called as Caucasian whereas a Caucasian can be called as white.

    When comparing the two races, Caucasian is a larger race when compared to the other. The Caucasian race consists of North Africans, Arabs, Whites, Somalians, some people in India and Ethiopians. On the other hand, white are mostly people who belong to Europe.

    It should also be noted that though people in North Africa and South Asia can be technically called as Caucasian, they are not considered so as they have darker features.


    Read more: Difference Between White and Caucasian | Difference Between | White vs Caucasian http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneous/difference-between-white-and-caucasian/#ixzz33WmGzBZy
     

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