Who do you consider white? Is white a valid race?

I don't think so, berbers will tell you themselves they are white people, meaning caucasoid. Most are dark skinned but some are pale with blue eyes and blond hair, again these features are even found in kurdistan, iraq. Its not due to european admixture.

 

Greeks are typically dark but they don't have african admixture. Italians are just meds, so they are dark, of course not all of them are. Iranian people can be very dark and they are not africans either. See, there is no connection.

Any admixture that did take place could have been between italians and north africans (berbers and arabized locals). For instance libyans and tunisians could have intermarried with italians, but these populations are not black.

 

Yeah, I think sean connery is one of them too even though he is scottish. With a beard he looks like an iranian, a more handsome version of Ayatollah Khomeini.



Great actor too.

 

Spielberg looks like former iranian president Mohammad Khatami

Ashkenazi jews can look very iranian, this is just one example

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And Jonah, take note Khatami is pinky white. He is not a convert to islam obviously, he is native to iran with some arab ancestry (he is a sayyid by his black turban, direct descendant of mohammad)

 

The Moroccans are genetically around 94% African and Haplogroup E is an African haplogroup that has first appeared in Horn of Africa about 22,400 years ago. Typical West Eurasian or Caucasian haplogroups such as R1b and G can only be found at very minor frequencies (0.4-0.8%) in the Moroccan population and it's thought that the founding population in Morocco was Caucasian or Arab, or the French colonisation of North Africa affected the Moroccan gene pool, which explains the presence of Haplogroup I (0.4%).

 

^^ Yes, but we are discussing moroccan jews who come from europe (spain and portugal). Moroccan jews are most closely related to ashkenazi jews and syrian jews on genetic plots.

 

lol. the welsh (celts) are very afrikan looking, brown eyes, black hair and dark skin. the ones you refer to, the white britons, are germanic and viking.

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iknow a berber and she doesnt call herself white. she says the white north africans are descended from europeans.

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Greeks are typically dark because they have afrikan admixture.

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sean connery is scandanavian descent (scottish) this could be why he looks iranian, as modern iranians are of european descent (aryans)

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yes, they are converts to a religion based on Afrikan beliefs. thats as close to the almighty as they gonna get!

 

yes, he is jewish, which means he is almost certainly european. thanks for proving my point.

 

What?! He is a moroccan jew. Jews trace their lineage back to king david. Maimonides was a spanish jew, are you telling me he wasn't of hebrew descent even though his actual name was Moshe ben Maimon, whichi is hebrew??

 

lol!!!

the majority of Jews in Israel are not from Europe.

they are from North Africa and the Middle East.

 

lol!!!!!

the Welsh look like this?




I was in Wales. I didn't see anyone that looked like that.

 

No offense, but what you posted here is so convoluted, I don't even know where to start. Greeks are mixed with blacks? I am Greek, no way man. Do you have any evidence for that claim? Khomeini is related to scandinavians?? Khomeini is of arab origin, he is a sayyid and directly descended from mohammad, he is actually dark skinned.

Moroccan jews aren not converts, they are as close to the hebrews as you can get! lol Their ancestry goes back to Israel.

Moroccan-Israeli Jew (He is hebraic, obviously. From the spanish hebrews known as sefaradim)



Another pic of him



Another hebraic man

 

no, Persians are NOT of European descent.

you need to stop making things up.

 

you have it backwards.

many Sephardic Jews moved to Turkey from Spain after 1492.

 

You mean they migrated from Spain to Turkey. Yes, the spanish and portuguese jews (sefaradic jews) also migrated to the netherlands, north africa (especially morocco, algeria, tunisia, and egypt). They also went to Syria, Palestine, and especially to central america and north america. The first american jews were sefaradic. Unfortunately Judah Benjamin the brains behind the confederacy and slave states of the south was a sefaradic jew.

Most moroccan jews are sefaradic. Sefaradic jews spoke ladino, especially in Turkey, the americas and in Morocco (where it was called haketiya and more arabic influenced). Later they started to speak judeo moroccan arabic, written in hebrew characters, they also spoke hebrew, and especially french. Most french jews and francophone jews are sefaradim. They tend to have french, arabic, or berber last names, although some still have spanish ones like Toledano, which is a famouse rabbinical dynasty.

 

Persians are indo-european and aryan, not semitic, but that doesn't make them european jonah. Indians are also indo-european. Hindi and Persian languages are very closely related.

Back to sefaradic jews. My dad is sefaradic by religious denomination but his ancestors never went to spain. Iraqi jews are native to iraq since babylon and assyria, but we follow the traditions of sefaradic jews. Most of Israel's sefaradic rabbis are not even spanish, but are iraqi and iranian. We cluster closest with assyrians, georgian jews, azeri jews, iranian jews, armenians, other caucasians, and yes to sefaradic and ashkenazi jews.

In the middle ages, some iraqi jews went to northern italy and helped form the ashkenazi community, so technically some ashkenazim are part iraqi jewish. Babylonian Jewish is a better kname "bavli" in hebrew.

 

some europeans changed their name to appear hebrew, then what they did is change the name of hebrews to european and voila

 

greeks have alot of afrikan ancestry. thats not even up for debate.

btw, what are these pics of europeans supposed to prove?

 

you have it backwards. the spanish jews came from north afrika with the moors.

 

That sounds ridiculous. Do you have any evidence that Maimonides changed his name to sound Hebrew? The only jews that did this were the early socialist zionist israelis to change their european names to hebrew ones, since Hebrew was being revived again to such an extent that it became the national language of Israel. But that was centuries and centuries later.

 

Some of them did, but then they were expelled in 1492 from Spain and in 1497 from portugal, and they brought ladino (a european language) with them to Turkey, the Netherlands, the Americas, and other places in the world.

 

Greeks may have north african dna which is caucasoid, but there is no evidence that Aristotle was black african. Please provide proof for your claim here please.

Secondly, the pics are not of europeans, they are of Moroccan Jews who are genetically middle eastern. North African Jews are not european, they are hebrews that lived in Spain, Morocco, Tunisia, etc. They are not converts to judaism. Genetic studies have proven moroccan jews are more closely related to other jews and middle eastern populations than to europeans or their north african host populations. The only european dna that sefaradim picked up is minimal and its mediterranean from Italy and Greece because of small localized greco-roman conversions to judaism. The vast majority of their dna is middle eastern, and since they cluster with syrian jews and ashkenazi jews, its obvious they have hebrew origin. How else could all three groups of jews be related?