Who is the Beast in The Book of Revelations?

You can read all about Julian the Apostate and the third Temple here.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Tisha-BeAv-The-Third-Temple-that-wasnt

 

The beast is not a man,... the number of the beast is the same as the name pf a man,... either 616 AD or 666 AD,... depending on which text you read here.

On 1299 AD, Islam became the 11th horn upon which the crown over the Muslim, Ottoman Empire reigned:
Dan 7:8 I considered the (ten) horns, and, behold, there came up, (in 616 AD), among them (an eleventh), another,(/B) (an 11th horn: Dan 7:20)(B) little horn, (i.e.; Islam), before whom there were, (had been), three of the first (10) horns,

([1]: Undivided Empire: Diocletian: [305AD];
[2]: Western Roman Empire: [to 476 AD]; and
[3]: Eastern Roman: Byzantine Empire, [to 1453 AD]),...

...and plucked up by the roots (i.e.; Eastern Roman Orthodox Christian Byzantine Empire at the hands of this Ottoman Empire): and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, (beginning with the great seer, the Prophet Mohammed), and a mouth, (The Koran), speaking great things, (speaking them, because Mohammed could not write).

 

Islam has nothing to do with Revelation, nor does Russia, the EU or America.. It was written for the first century churches... not for 2,000 years in the future.

Daniel was writing about things that happened in the past.. Its a poem from Syria circa 1500 BC.

 

The 1000 year of absence for the best is the weakness in your interpretation here...

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Then why would Revelation speak of 1000 years for the beast to have disappeared...?

 

For more than 1,000 years during the Byzantine Empire, Eastern Orthodox Christianity thrived. That empire ceased to exist in 1453.........

 

So you are saying that this second church in the Roman World, the Orthodox Greek Church,... was the beast?
Or what...

 

As an interesting side note there were some Bibles that had 612 which reflected a different spelling of Nero Caesar". Saw that on some documentary but sure it is somewhere on Google.

 

While this is true for most - this is doubly true for adherents to fundamentalist dogma.

More unnatural than eating the flesh and drinking the blood of a God ? More unnatural than sacrificing one's Children to appease a God ?

What is then "natural" ? A state of nature with no laws - anarchy ? This would be "natural".

Homosexuality - this also occurs in nature.

Have you actually put some thought into what you are saying or are you just reciting dogma that you have not thought through ?

 

616 was the number used in the Latin Bible,...

Dan 7:8 I considered the (ten) horns, and, behold, there came up, (in 616 AD), among them (an eleventh), another,(/B) (an 11th horn: Dan 7:20)(B) little horn, (i.e.; Islam), before whom there were, (had been), three of the first (10) horns,

([1]: Undivided Empire: Diocletian: [305AD];
[2]: Western Roman Empire: [to 476 AD]; and
[3]: Eastern Roman: Byzantine Empire, [to 1453 AD]),...

...and plucked up by the roots (i.e.; Eastern Roman Orthodox Christian Byzantine Empire at the hands of this Ottoman Empire): and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, (beginning with the great seer, the Prophet Mohammed), and a mouth, (The Koran), speaking great things, (speaking them, because Mohammed could not write).


616 AD was the date Mohammed first announced the Koran,... and spoke it off before his followers,... which included his cousin, Ali.

 

Of course there is evidence of God. Thor, Odin, Zeus and Athena are all real Gods based on the available evidence.

Clearly something you have yet to learn.

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So you are saying Genesis is wrong ?

 

The Eucharist is when we "eat and drink" the body of the Elijah,... who had come,... as was anticipated,... to explain the 5th cup of Seder.

 

Yes ... a perfectly unnatural act.

 

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According to esoteric text; "You will know him as he can hear the beating of a butterfly's wings. As for his eyesight. we do not know. He may wear glasses."

 

No,...
Genesis, in the genealogy,... listed the now accepted 22 species of humans which preceded us, i.e.; Modern man.

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It is a figurative act,... which Jesus ritualized,... so the Jews of today will remember he DID explain that fifth cup was to be shared,... and his flesh was real.

 

Genesis claims that humans lived over 900 years. We have been through this in detail before.

Noah is still alive at the time of Abraham.

Whatever .. you obviously did not read the previous posts for context. The question is one of what is "unnatural".

Let me know when you find animals in nature acting out such a religious ritual.

 

The facts were that these species lived for 950,000 years,... but that idea could not be stated since then,... it would have been seen as impossible.
The facts of the evolution had to explained in way which illustrated that men lived for centuries,... which we would know, was untrue.

It is no coincidence that the creation story includes the list of exactly 22 of our evolutionary forefathers,... which is the right number of species.

 

Rituals are not unnatural human acts.
They have always been used to send messages into the future.

 

First you claimed:

You claim: 950 years is impossible.

now you are claiming 950,000 years is possible.

Forgive me but, is this not the craziest of contradictions ?

 

Not by the any in the subset of nature excluding humans.

What humans do is not used as the gauge for what is "natural" ... if it was anything humans do is then "natural" and the term "unnatural" in reference to humans in meaningless.

 

I claimed that 950 years of a life, for one man to live, was impossible.
But for a species, 950,000 years is correct.

 

You try to nr a hard time while nit picking at nonsense,... like this.

Rituals are a symbolic way of sending messages into the future.
It was extremely useful before people were literate and could otherwise understand things.

It is true, that humans do seem to be the only animals who communicate to this extent, and by such means,... but we are people who use communication between us as an asset.

 

Many animal species have courting rituals.

 

I know,...
But for Gifty here, I cut to the chase.

The Eucharist is a ritual all followers of Jesus are to experience, because t points to the 5th cup which he was supposed to explain.

 

Jerusalem was stoned in A.D. 70 by stones launched from Roman catapults: God’s prescribed punishment for adultery. The stoning of the whore of Babylon is found in Revelation 16:21: “From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.”

Revelation 17:8 Commentary: Rome, the Beast, dies with Nero Caesar and rises from the Dead with the Ascension of the Flavians; Vespasian, Titus and Domitian; Who were all Crowned Caesar at the same time and together revived the Roman Empire by putting an End to Rome’s Civil War and the War with Israel.

According to Revelation 11:2 Jerusalem and the Temple were to be under assault for a period of forty-two months. We know from history that the Jewish War with Rome was formally engaged in Spring, A.D. 67, and was won with the collapse of the Temple in August, A.D. 70. This is a period of forty-two months, which fits the precise measurement of John’s prophecy. John’s prophecy antedates the outbreak of the Jewish War.

 

... but your 1000 years' of disappearance for the Beast is missing in your interpretation here...