Who is the Beast in The Book of Revelations?

Yes,... Satan and the Devil are what the beast represents,... and Satan was locked up for 1000 years,... (Rev 20:3)
The idea,... that this was not during the Monastic Age of Christianity,... is dead wrong.

Revelation 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

 

It's like your "Bible translations", CD, where you just make up new definitions for words in the Bible to fit your own theories.....

in the other case, it's taking historical fact and then "interpreting" them to claim they were "prophecized about in the past".

 

So how does one know the difference?

 

Sorry, the Beast is Nero.. There's no denying that he is the subject in the first century.. When Nero died by suicide his line ended.. but soon the Beast reappeared with another bunch of emperors and when Rome fell.. the Empire continued in the East under St Constantine who murdered his oldest son Crispus and killed his wife.

If you study first century history you won't be fooled by all those crackpots who have created the Amplified Bible.. You don't have to add reams of language to put the Bible in modern times. But, you know.. Charlatans have done that sort of ting for eons.

 

It's like we've said before...."Revelations" isn't a "prediction of the future"....

it's a fictionalized/fantastical/symbolic account of a historical event that occurred in the past.

 

Exactly, but this article starts off with a lie claiming that people have wondered for centuries about the identity of the Beast.. That's not true at all .. Some unschooled charlatans have projected Revelation into the future for political purposes, but scholars have always known it was Nero.

 

Well, as we've also discussed one of the key aspects of Rightwing Fundy/Evangey "Christians" is their hatred of Modernity.

They hate the current era....the late 20th-early 21st Century....because it confuses and frightens them. Ergo, they leap on the crap from Tim LaHaye (or Hal Lindsey before him) and PRAY for the End of the World and them escaping it.

They want the End of the World.....because the world scares them.

 

What is certain is that Revelation was written to people living in the first century and they understood the symbolism perfectly. A lot of this "futuristic" stuff is laziness and lack of scholarship.

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What is certain is that Revelation was written to people living in the first century and they understood the symbolism perfectly. A lot of this "futuristic" stuff is laziness and lack of scholarship.

 

Plus the "End Times" stuff is internally contradictory.....for instance-

We are told that Satan/The Anti-Christ is supernaturally intelligent (being a former angel/now devil)......why would he engage in activities that are "prophecized by God"....when by NOT doing them, he would prove the prophecies wrong.

For instance, the Mark of the Beast....the UPC barcode all us Unsaved will be forced to get when Nicholae Carpathia takes over.....

if the Anti-Christ does NOT force that Mark.....the Bible is proven wrong, and God's "prophecy" of the Mark is proven wrong.....ergo GOD is proven wrong.

Seems like a yuuuge victory for Ol' Scratch.

And the apologists only rejoinder is "But...uh....see...Satan is prideful and would still think he'd win".....but why would an intelligent being even RISK that? What's so damn (pardon the pun) important about a "mark"?

Especially if it convinced the Left Behind....who would see it as PROOF that the "End Times" Myths were true......to turn to Christ.

Don't do it....and they'd say "Oh...okay....well, he must NOT be the Anti-Christ....he's not demanding the Mark of the Beast."


Such logic escapes the simple, child-like "Rapture Ready".

 

The Scofield heresy has become popular in the US since the 1930s.

 

I would say there is not one person in the world that does not have a lot to learn. We all will go to our death with a vast amount of education, never learned.

Blood transfusions, medication, is all unnatural. All the disgusting inhuman actions early doctors had to do, to get to where we are today, is overlooked. Most people would have said do not do it, it's not worth it. They had to keep it quite or people would learn that they had to dissect bodies alive. Instead of saving lives, they used people of severe injury as guinea pigs. Their deaths was severe pain and suffering. I think it's not far-fetched imaging what had to take place. As long as the people didn't know, they would do the most horrific things imaginable. Some to this day have been caught performing sexual acts on patience that was incoherent. The rich make lists of who has the same blood type, if they need a body part, there are many different ways they can get to those people. If it is a male, a beautiful young woman and a knockout drug will suffice. Just for one example.

They have gotten to the point where they think they can make a man into a woman and vice versa. What's even crazier than that, people do it. This does not change a person's gender, only appearance. For a man will always have the dna of a man, same with a woman. They don't even care how it was physicians figured it out.

So in my opinion, as tough as it would be, with minimal exceptions let nature take her course.

 

You believe all that crap you wrote?

 

There is also evidence of God, however you ignore that. Don't be so hypocritical.

For the most part, apes walk on all fours. If we evolved from them, why haven't they evolved from all fours? There are so many reasons this is nonsense. Again, why do we have apes in the zoo, instead of the apes having us in the zoo. After all we came from them right?

Try using your own head and logic, instead of somebody else. I mean even though he was wrong, that's Darwin did. He used his own head.

Also, DNA for all life forms is about 90-95% the same.

 

Do you think you will go to your grave knowing everything? Please let me know where all I went wrong?

 

I know the Beast was Nero and that some Christians have no idea how much Scofield influenced their beliefs.

 

No. Prophecy involves associated facts - not your way of taking unassociated facts and adding words. The Book of Revelations has little to do with Christianity. Most of it has to do with the Hebrews. Christianity added its own 'Jesus divinity' to it.

 

You've been reading to many horror and SciFi comics

 

So you see that Reality is the one almighty we can not explain, and must use Truth to tell us what Reality has accomplished in the past.

It is very important,... to note that the grace,... to us,... is that Reality, in this manner,... forms the Truth,... which images its past accomplishments.

 

I think you should do some serious study.

 

I never make up new definitions, but I use the Hebrew dictionary,... always.
How would YOU identify a prophecy that has come true,... without... "taking historical fact and then 'interpreting' them to claim they were 'prophecized'."

 

If your trying to say that the son of perdition has already come, your wrong.

http://www.angelfire.com/la/israel3/phcy/seals.html

 

One knows the difference as the truth becomes available.
Until Darwin,... men assumed some ancient people must have lived as long as 950 years,... which we now realize is impossible to do.

 

Genesis says that after these more evolved humans appeared,... the ape-men continued to have more ape-men which were not different in any way.
In each case,... the ape mothers continued to have regular apes,... in spite that just one was a line to our humanity.

 

The beast was a system of behaviors,... Nero was one of the heads of the Empire,... as were the others who came after him.
But clearly,... Christianity came and the beast died for 1000 years.

 

The man of sin and son of perdition was Domitian, the 11th first-century emperor ...

The only wall standing is the Roman barracks ..the wall is all that's left of fortress Antonia.

Emperor Julian the Apostate, successor to Constantine, tried to rebuild the temple but it was destroyed by fire and earthquake about 360 AD.. There was nothing left.