Who Rules the United States?

IMO what is going on right now is not what you are describing, however. It is an organized effort and, I believe, one financed by a privileged segment of the population to preserve that privilege at the expense of the average American worker and the middle class as a whole. Additionally, some members of the upper middle class, used to being the handmaidens of the elite, are beginning to also become redundant, as in the use of computers to do legal searches, and the computerization of accounting and some auditing functions.

An additional disturbing effect of what has been occurring since the 80's is that we are losing essential tech in this country-- which will make us more dependent and vulnerable as a nation. The elites have never had a full grasp of the processes involved in what the people working for them do. They have understood the need for people with certain skills, but forget that those skills involve practical knowledge of what to do if, for example a fermentation vat starts producing vinegar instead of alcohol, if a syrup-making process starts producing crystallized syrup, if a weaving process gets snarled, or if a machine suddenly stops. Computerization is especially laden with risks, as the replication of complex functions is only as correct as the programmer's understanding of the process.

The above is of increasing concern because of the elitist perception that anyone that knows how to lead can run anything effectively. BP's massive Gulf oil spill should have been a general wake up call in regard to this issue. From what I have read, the dynamics were this: BP had a new, Scandinavian Chairman of the Board who was an expert in cost cutting by making cuts in staff and operations wherever possible. IMO this led to the BP workers on the Deepwater Horizon to do the same, particularly when corporation reps were aboard for a presentation--to disastrous effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

I have long felt that the elitist belief that those that work under them know nothing of importance and that they do not, therefor, need to learn the specifics of those processes is based quite simply on their desire to not have to learn them. IMO they want their scions to be able to graduate with a liberal arts degree from an ivy league college and step right into leadership positions. As more and more industrial processes have been offshored, this has led to a dumbing down of America.

It is clear to many of us that our legal system is also beginning to break down, with even some of our Supreme Court justices having a more sententious orientation than one based in logical ability and the determination to follow the Constitution and established precedent. In general, the judiciary has always been a backstop to overly emotional political decisions, but IMO it is no longer as dependable in this respect because of those put in place in recent years..

 

IMO many departments in the US government are responding to presidential requests and directives right now in a sub-par manner for political reasons. I don't know enough about the DOJ to be certain, but I believe that all of what you are referring to transpired prior to Trump finally getting his Attorney General in place. That should not have been necessary with a Court that prioritized the safety of American citizens. It is my hope, though, that those who have been minimally or non-responsive to Trump's reasonable directives will be replaced. Insubordination is a viable reason to discharge even civil servants, so it should be possible to eliminate many "burrowers" attempting to derail efforts Trump was elected to address.

IMO Trump's EO was a reasonable attempt to protect the population in an area in which the prior administration had become almost criminally negligent. There was an election held in which millions of voters voted in such a manner as to correct this and other deficiencies, which is being actively subverted.

Many of us initially became aware of the extent of the previous administration's lack of concern for citizen safety during the Ebola epidemic in Africa, where that administration initially failed to take any significant action to assure that Ebola would not be transported into this country:--in fact, even allowing active cases to be brought in, an action which Trump, as a lone voice in the wilderness, denounced. The results could have been truly catastrophic, as one of the nurses who contracted Ebola from Duncan was seeing a man who worked for a prominent eye drop manufacturer.

 

Well managed Chaos rules the U.S.

That Chaos is manufactured by our 2 Hallowed Political parties, tended to by our LameStream Media outlets, & paid for with the blood, sweat, & tears of the Sheeple.

That or Lizard people.

The more I think about it... Lizard People would be preferable.

 

The 1%. The super rich. And they own Trump, look at his cabinet? He's not even trying to hide it. Look at his agenda? Remove all federal regulations. I mean, allowing coal waste to be dumped in water? Drill for oil in the national parks? Seriously reduce the FDA rules and the EPA? Seriously? All that does is save the company money, putting more profits into the filthy rich. And removes all protection from them doing serious harm to people, destroying the environment, poisoning their water.

And they have their hands in democrats as well. They at least pretend to care about the people and push things to protect people now and then, but in the end, they let the rich accumulate more and more wealth. Kind of like Corey Booker defending pharma companies, who donated to his campaign.

We need to get money out of politics but that will likely never happen. And SCOTUS made the worst decision ever with the "money is free speech."

 

It's not patriotism and virtue when it's led by paid shills.

 

Malarkey Judge in St Louis suddenly decides the city isn't spending enough money on schools and issues a judicial decree to effect that increase. There are other such examples.

 

It gratifies me that you suddenly see those neglected for years in our economy by our leadership to now be a "great danger". That's a step up from being totally ignored.

 

Yes; of course you are correct, but the present situation goes beyond that natural process into private connivance and financing for private financial interests.

Thanks for the refresher, though; a lot of us need it. Just as many prefer to forget the excellent reason the Electoral College was put into place.

 

The courts? No, those in power are the uber wealthy. Progressives do their bidding by vehemently supporting regulation and taxes that maintain their holdings a competitive advantage. They also keep the peace by instantly retaliating against anyone that condones separation of power from the few back to the many. Conservatives do their bidding as far as moral fiber and social constructs that keep the domesticated humans productive workers. Conservatives are too concerned about social control which adds the most to the distraction of the masses.

 

The elites do not want tax cuts. They don't want a relaxation of the EPA. They want the continued DOE path.

 

At CPAC today, Bannon & Priebus talked about "deconstructing the administrative state". It almost brought tears to my eyes. Someone is finally going to try to dismantle our bloated, cancerous federal government. Return power to the people!

I don't think they're going to succeed because government is too big and too entrenched. But at least they're serious and they're talking about it. Someone gets it.

 

I don't think this whole thing is "people vs deep-state" but it's rather "plurality vs singularity". The former is also known as "multipolarity" while the latter is the system of "unipolarity".

Plurality vs Singularity
Multipolarity vs Unipolarity
Euraisanists vs Globalists
Nation states vs Imperial city states
Trump vs Hillary
Republicans vs Democrats+Neocons

Yes, Trump is actually a Eurasianist.

 

Whatever the hell fable this is supposed to represent...good luck with it.

YOU, Merwen...are part of the danger our nation is facing.

Anyway...your side of the fence has almost total control. Both houses of congress; the presidency; soon the judiciary...most state houses...and most governorships.

We'll see how that works out.

 

If you mean we're against a single-government NWO, that would be correct.
Even if it were the US.

 

Once again this is a blatantly false statement. The Courts have no power to "create law" and the only real power the Court has related to the law is "Nullification" of the law. Not a single example has ever been presented where the court created any law.

 

There have been numerous famous people that "deconstructed the administrative state" but they never transferred any power to the people. They kept the power for themselves when they became a dictator.

 

It was a MUSLIM TRAVEL BAN that was never based upon an actual national security threat. The President didn't contact the Department of Homeland Security, the NSA. the FBI, or the CIA to find out if there was evidence that "nationality" alone represented any threat to the United States. The President didn't even contact Homeland Security and the State Department to request a copy of the Visa issuing protocols with a review of revisions made since 9/11. There was absolutely no intelligence information that supported the ban. ZERO, ZIP, NONE because that evidence does not exist and logically can't even exist.

There were no "facts" to support the Muslim ban, period, and the DOJ can't pull non-existent facts out of its rectal cavity. The President can pull non-existent facts out of his rectal cavity, and does so all of the time, but the DOJ can't do that in a federal court of law.

 

I cited the exact law that the White House stated was the authority and it does not grant "Plenary" to the President and the President doesn't have "Plenary" power over a frigging thing in the United States because the President's actions are always constrained by the US Constitution.

The law requires the President to "find" and a "finding" is a statement of fact. The President cannot ban immigration based upon "religious intolerance" and that was the only reason that the executive order was issued. There was no national security threat.

 

The finding was found by congress and the previous administration. You didn't complain when Obama stopped travel from Iraq, one on the list, for 6 months. What 'finding' did he use?

 

Nope big business is as much a slave to bureaucracy, they just have the where with all to pay the political class for limited protection from the bureaucracy's worst excesses. Blaming big business for bureaucratic excess is lime blaming fleas for the existence of tigers.

 

There is the visible government situated around the Mall in Washington, and then there is another, more shadowy, more indefinable government that is not. There is a Deep State, which operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power. Because Progressive Socialist Democrats have reigned for many years in Washington, they have imbedded many of their ideological acolytes within the federal bureaucratic system. Lois Lerner and John Koskinen are good examples of what today is defined as "Deep State" workers. They are like ticks buried deep within the multitude of government agencies.
We occasionally see the tip of this iceberg rise out of the sea of bureaucracy with people representing our Federal government claiming they use tactics of Roman legions when investigating.
This is well beyond and not just relegated to the IRS, or the EPA this is endemic in each of the agencies that have been created to run this country.

 

There is the visible government situated around the Mall in Washington, and then there is another, more shadowy, more indefinable government that is not. There is a Deep State, which operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power. Because Progressive Socialist Democrats have reigned for many years in Washington, they have imbedded many of their ideological acolytes within the federal bureaucratic system. Lois Lerner and John Koskinen are good examples of what today is defined as "Deep State" workers. They are like ticks buried deep within the multitude of government agencies.
We occasionally see the tip of this iceberg rise out of the sea of bureaucracy with people representing our Federal government claiming they use tactics of Roman legions when investigating.
This is well beyond and not just relegated to the IRS, or the EPA this is endemic in each of the agencies that have been created to run this country as we have seen.

 

We have an action oriented president now, not one who hides behind a claimed need for "studies" of what is already self evident.

Everyone claims to agree that adequate vetting is needed. Vetting is not possible from those seven countries at present either because they are too disorganized to be able to provide the necessary information or simply refuse to do so. Ergo: a need for special treatment of some sort.

Trump acted as head of the administrative branch of our government by issuing his executive order to protect the American people. Special corporative and educational interests took it to court in a carefully selected, ultra liberal federal court in California, where it was opposed. As head of this particular administration, elected by people mostly from less liberal areas of the country who had to watch helplessly while Obama expedited the importation of unwieldly numbers of Muslims into their areas and also sat on his hands while Ebola was being brought in, Trump will continue to try to control the importation of people of concern who might be detrimental to this country for any reason. That is one of the things he was elected to do, and he has his mandate to do that.

In the meantime, anyone that comes to harm because of the preferred practices of the eight year long Obama administration will continue to have to suffer from the damages that chief administrator caused or allowed to occur through his own actions or lack of them, including the two young nurses that contracted Ebola here in their own country and will now suffer lifelong effects from that experience. IMO the last shoe is yet to drop on that issue.

IMO you and yours would be better off trying to find a way to work productively, effectively, and positively with the present administration, because approximately half of the population is very, very aware of what is going on here, and their numbers are being added to on a daily basis. People were angry and disgusted before the election, and that feeling has only grown exponentially with all of this foolishness emanating from the so-called losers. The idea that it is OK to lose a certain number of people each year via Islamic terrorism because financial, educational, or any other interests will suffer otherwise may be a telling one in certain circles of privilege, but not in mainstream America.

Additionally, WTH are so many people from those specific countries doing in key positions in our major corporations and higher institutions of learning, anyway?...And, for that matter, who thought it was such a good idea for our technological universities, such as MIT, to teach Iranians how to make nuclear bombs?

Many, many people in this country are gleaning an excellent education from Trump-triggered revelations. How come these matters were never made a part of the national discussion by the media? Just what do they believe their mission to actually be?
Half of those arguing on your side of the issue would not be if the people really understood what was actually going on--which is the attempted usurpation of power of a lawfully elected official--the same thing Soros dabbled with in the Ukraine, with the help of Nuland and others, to disastrous effect for that country.

They'd better not try that here. We're all watching, and we're not as naive as we were back in Kennedy's time.

 

Ex CIA operations officer reveals much information from books of Islam and their leaders that clearly establishes a threat to America. This threat is more dangerous than any single terrorist attack. So far not one person I've shown this to has been able to refute these facts. So it's looking like Trump is 100% correct again, when so many think differently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU13D4ZPtQM

-pete-

 

RIP Richard but he told me this story.

My city has some high hills. up to about 3,000 down to sea level. Richard's son had been a client of mine and we got to know each other when he took over the sale of his sons home.

This is what he told me.

A then brand new development of homes was commencing. We are talking genuine luxury homes.

This was the dry season so no water was rushing down the hills. There was part of the property that had a part that though dry, clearly during wet season, small amounts of water ran down.

In comes the bulldozer operator who accidently shoved a bit of dirt into that part of the hill. I see no reason why not to be frank.

However EPA put that off limits.

Well, a simple telling the dirt mover to fix it would have been the simple fix. But not to the EPA. They fined the contractor thousands of dollars.

They eat you up. They are not your friend.

Dick told me it was ridiculous. Dick was the city engineer and knew about those things. He commanded troops when in the Army as one of their engineers.

Most people who judge the EPA have yet to meet their claws and fanged teeth.