I like putting people in their place. Everybody has a place and everybody in their place. And that means I hate you for whatever reason, that's good enough for me.
You haven't shown malnutrition affects IQ more than height in your two links that you didn't have the basic reasoning ability to see the flaws in, and your 'basic logic' was responded with my own example. You truly are beyond the ability to comprehend an argument. I would save your own advice for yourself if I were you as you have repeatedly cited disputed claims by Nisbett numerous times during your time here. I see your tactics as dishonest and you personally lacking the educational background and reasoning abilities for these discussions. Graves's arguments are so poor that I believe his career advancement as being due to reasons unrelated to his intelligence as his arguments are not intelligent.
I'm going to explain this as simply as I can since you seem to lack basic reading comprehension. I said that environmental differences can stunt IQ more than they do height. Malnutrition can only stunt height by no more than a few inches. Environmental differences can stunt IQ by incredibly wide margins. My sources established this. Basic reasoning on how different nurturing environments affect IQ establishes this. Do you understand? Your opinions on Graves' arguments are not credible. If you are so confident in your opinion make a new thread and critique some of Graves arguments showing why he is wrong and that his arguments are not intelligent. I predict that you will not do this because you are not capable of challenging Graves' arguments on an intellectual level. What a coincidence! The new thread I am writing is based on that very subject!
I gave you a countervailing example where malnutrition can lead to no growth in a human. Maybe you should try this thing called reading. I'd love for you to prove this. Your sources did not establish anything as they did not provide data. Do you even understand basics of making an argument? I'll wait until you finish a single book so you can post a thread on Nisbett you've claimed you'd do four or five years ago. But why did you continue citing Nisbett's challenged claims since then? Don't care for honesty? Great. Hopefully you'll show how the science says we're all equal in brain volume as you just embarrassed (except you're not capable of embarrassment) yourself claiming something so easily to be disputed.
Yeah and kill them. I'm talking about the effects of environmental factors from childhood to adulthood. I thought that was obvious. If a child reaches adulthood while malnourished they will still come close to their genetic potential for height while a child can reach adulthood without much environmental stimuli and it will have dramatic effects on their intelligence. This is flawless logic. What in the world did you think we were discussing? I already did. But apparently you didn't understand my argument. Do you know how to have a conversation without lying? One of them did provide data on the effects of malnutrition on height. Considering I bought the book in 2015 this is a blatant lie. I have a lot of books I haven't finished reading. Nisbett's book is one of them. When I finish it I will make a new thread about the subject and shut you and Empress up. As for citing Nisbett I have read several of his articles so I have an informed opinion on some of his arguments. Just because there have been challenges doesn't mean Nisbett has been refuted. Wait until you see my thread. I'm going to put this matter to bed once and for all. Meanwhile if you going to keep attacking Graves you could at least try harder to make a valid criticism. So far you arguments have been pathetic.
Err, no. Maybe you should do basic research before embarrassing yourself. Humans can survive into adulthood without growing much larger than the size of babies in extreme circumstances. In less severe but still extreme malnutrition 12-yo children can have the height of 4- or 5-yo children. Are you brain dead? You did not post articles which concluded humans can only be stunted a few inches due to malnutrition. You posted one article which looked at Laotian children who happened to be stunted 1.1 cm on average from the malnutrition they experienced (the other article did not record height measurements to begin with). How do you manage to extrapolate to make absolute scientific claims from one report on Laotian children suffering dysentery? I only mentioned this several posts ago when I was lampooning your use of sources to arrive at faulty conclusions. http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=443431&page=7&p=1066017312#post1066017312 AND http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=443431&page=10&p=1066022109#post1066022109 Note how I'm highlighting how your *first* source did not record height which is an obvious indication that a second source must have recorded height? Do you not see how this reflects poorly on your reasoning ability? What I am saying is that your sources did not provide *both* dependent variables which is what you would need to even begin using these sources as evidence. I am speechless how you do not understand basics of making an argument. I think I would go farther communicating with a monkey. I honestly do not understand how I can repeatedly explain to you in plain language why your conclusions are faulty based on the sources you've provided and for you to respond without the slightest indication you've understood anything that was said. The thread in which you were shown how Nisbett is dishonest in his writing was several years old and you claimed then you would respond. What's more important than the fact you continuously claim to write a thread about the serious critiques of Nisbett is when these critiques have been pointed out to you in plain language and yet you continue to use Nisbett to new posters not familiar with how you were unable to defend him prior to previous posters. I find it funny when we've shown Nisbett omits studies to which you have no response and then claim he has not been refuted. The bottom line is you have no defense of Nisbett but continue to use him. An honest individual would shelve that particular writer until they have been vindicated. Why don't you save yourself the embarrassment and do it piecemeal instead of one thread? Start with adoption studies; or regression toward the mean; or head, skull and brain volume studies?
I'm not going to argue with you about this garbage any more. I've had enough of your incompetence and ridiculous arguments. I do find it ironic though that you and Empress want me to abandon Nisbett as a source when I have thoroughly refuted Rushton and you still cite that quack like his research is the gospel truth. That's funny. Since you won't defend your criticism of Graves I will focus on writing my opening post for my new thread.
Funny. You're fleeing this conversation after the ridiculous claims you've made couldn't be supported. Please show malnutrition can only cause a few inches of height loss, at most.
Essentially he is one of those who try to be something he is not.....thus his phoniness rings loud and clear. A good example of one of the main problems with the minority of which he is a member.....trying to be like white folk....simply makes them neurotic.They should stick to the values that have actually helped a great many of them....spirituality, hard work, respect for others and make sure their kids do not roam the streets and their daughters are not mothers when they are teens. Bottom Line: they need to concentrate on their own problems...correct their own problems instead of trying to blame others for all of their problems. His obsession with white women, posting borderline porno pictures of black men with white women is quite sick.....his utter refusal to deal with the horrendous amount of black on white rape whilst trying to claim blacks are victims is pathetic....such notions as he has will continue to gurantee only one thing....the minority of which he is a member will not advance...will continue to decline....in other woids he is part of the problem...not the solution.
You White Supremacists are hilarious. You get your ass kicked in debate and then you try to pat each other on the back to make yourselves feel better. Stop trying to lecture Black people on what you feel we should be doing to better ourselves. We are fully capable of being productive citizens like all normal people. The criminals among us are no different from the criminals of other groups. Black on White rape by the way is not as much of an epidemic as you make it out to be. Blacks actually victimize Whites at a lower rate than chance would allow. It just so happens that in America and other Western nations Whites greatly outnumber Blacks so there are more Whites available to be victimized. Statistically a White woman is more likely to be raped by a White man than a Black man. Where is your outrage at White rapists? I am not obsessed with White women. I have dated several White women (all of the intelligent and beautiful variety Rayznack) and do not regard them as more sexually desirable than any other group of women. I just like to troll racists with the Black male sexual dominance mantra to get a rise out of them.
I find it funny you reveal your supposed personal life of women you've supposedly dated but won't divulge your academic and career background. Btw, how come you fled after being challenged to provide evidence malnutrition can only stunt a child's height by a few inches?
I will divulge what I want to divulge. If you want to continue this debate then provide evidence for your claim that a person can reach adulthood growing no larger than a baby due to extreme malnutrition. I looked around and haven't read anything that suggests this. Pictures of such people would support your argument.
What are you defining as racist? It's a very vague term, open to interpretation and abuse. - - - Updated - - - Don't bother. He's lied to me about his academic background and claimed to have taken a number of classes in psychology when I've had to repeatedly explain to him the basics of intelligence studies and IQ heritability.
You have no evidence that I lied about my educational background and you didn't tell me anything that I didn't already know.
Corrected me when? Show us some posts supporting your claim. I told you I took psychology classes in college 2 years ago on Youtube and cited a video by a Yale Professor talking about IQ, heritability and quantitative genetics. Remember this? Curiously you never responded to the post. If you find any flaws in my argument point them out. By the way I still have one of my psychology textbooks from college on my book shelf. I'm not going to tell you the name of the book because the professor wrote it himself and it will reveal where I went to college but I can reference it for any topic you wish to discuss. If you want to test my knowledge of the field go ahead.
I'm not aware of any IQ testing for Black people in China. As far as I know there are not that many sizable Black populations in China that could be tested. If for instance you were to test African immigrants in Guangzhou what language would the test be in? The subject of IQ testing in different countries was not covered in any of my Psychology classes and is not mentioned in my book.
If only this was a forum where I could answer that question. I would suggest that you enter into your browser, ""Racism is GOOD! Do you disagree?" That is a thread that somebody started at another forum. I will also add a couple threads I copied that might clear things up for you some.
Because Asians really are just better. Asians are smarter, they fight better, and come on, they look better too.
