Why do leftists always invoke 'starving children' when talking about welfare?

I could have easily have been one of them but I worked my ass off to get above it. Your right, I have no sympathy for people who make wrong choices then whine that they need help. Show me one poor person and I will point to exactly what mistakes they've made and were too lazy to correct.

With the exception of a horrible accident or disease that completely takes you out there is no excuse.

 

That's exactly what anecdotal evidence IS. There you go with that "inability to master basic concepts" thing again.

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Like, paying attention in school to master the difference between basic homophones? You surely didn't do that.

What, exactly, did you do to "work your ass off to get above it?"

 

And in the end, excuses do not matter.

Either you kill them, or when their backs are pushed to the wall, they rise up and just start TAKING WHAT THEY WANT, either legally, or illegally.

What will you do then?

 

Worked 3 jobs, refused to have a family with my first wife because I knew I couldn't afford it, didn't take a vacation for 5 years, and never bought a new car or had a cell phone. Instead I pumped all that money into a bank account.

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This didn't happen before we had welfare so why would you expect it to happen now?

History is not on your side you know.

 

Lotsa talk. I want to see the ACTION.

 

But I didn't hear, "overcome being raised in an orphanage" or "was frequently left to fend for myself while my mother worked 3 jobs and my father was in jail."

Doesn't seem like you overcame all that much. Go on, tell me how children who have never known their parents or have suffered through a dearth of medical care and attention to academic success should just "work harder."

 

It's not surprising that you're uneducated on the intricacies of history:

http://www.history.com/topics/french-revolution

 

Can they work at McDonald's at minimum wage and afford shelter, grocery, transportation, utilities, and medical insurance?



No.

 

But things are not the same as they were back then. The culture, the mindset of many Americans has changed these days. And that is why I think that if welfare and other safety nets are slashed, that people backed into a corner may not react the way you think they will.

Am I wrong? That remains to be seen. I hope I am, but I have very little faith in humanity these days.

 

You better send a letter to the university that gave me a masters degree in it then.

They obviously screwed up big time.

lol

 

That's the point. To make it suck so that people are motivated to improve it.

The left doesn't see it like this. They want people to be happy and not work hard so they pass legislation to make sure that happens. I'll never go back to that sort of lifestyle but I did what needed to be done so I could get to a better stage of life. And it worked.

If you give people a fairly comfortable life as soon as they start to struggle what is the motivation for them to strive for anything better. Now if they are forced to then you will see improvement.

 

I would love t o live in your town. In my town we have churches but ...they all operate the same food cupboard and you can only get food from it once per month! Plus...there is only one church so serves free meals twice a month. I know because I have had to utilize the services! Show me anyone who can feed a family on ONE box of groceries a month and two free meals a month and I'll prove that I'm a millionaire!

YES people are hungry in this country. NOT everyone qualifies for food stamps and public assistance because they "earn" as little as $25 over the monthly limit but that is still poverty level and you can be (*)(*)(*)(*) hungry at poverty level. Try living on $701 a month as I do (and still pay your mortgage, electric, home heating, water and taxes!). Then you will know what it feels to be POOR and actually go hungry!

 

Tried neighbor for neighbor, momrobare?

 

IMO Nobody posting in this thread has ever been in bare to the bones mind numbing poverty! I have! I've been to the point where ONE CAN of tuna fish had to last for FOUR meals and I went hungry for two days so my daughter could have one meal a day! I worked at many menial degrading jobs for less than minimum wage and that includes: working on the muck, picking produce, janitorial, babysitting...anything that could keep my daughter eating. I've lived on the streets with my daughter! For those who blame the "shiftless" welfare recipients...know this: IF you don't have a place to live and someone to "rent" to you ...you DO NOT qualify for welfare. You need a place of residence to get welfare and you need welfare to get a place of residence. Also: If you don't have a car...don't bother going on a job interview unless it's within walking distance (and most of them aren't!). If you can't afford to wash your clothes or buy new ones once in awhile: don't bother going on job interviews because you will not even be considered! IF you have no place to shower or bathe...don't expect the YMCA or schools to let you shower there because they will NOT do so!

Bottom line: UNLESS you have lived in abject poverty (and yes people are doing so here in the U.S....don't go spouting off about how "easy" poor people have it and/or how lazy they are! Bottom line: People can and do go hungry in this country and many because they make as little as $15 over the limit needed to qualify for FS and cash assistance!

I wish all of you had lived my life (and could still be living it)...I bet every last one of you would be singing a different tune about "no poor people in this county"...no hunger in this county and the "lazy no good shiftless drain on the economy poor!"

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IMO Nobody posting in this thread has ever been in bare to the bones mind numbing poverty! I have! I've been to the point where ONE CAN of tuna fish had to last for FOUR meals and I went hungry for two days so my daughter could have one meal a day! I worked at many menial degrading jobs for less than minimum wage and that includes: working on the muck, picking produce, janitorial, babysitting...anything that could keep my daughter eating. I've lived on the streets with my daughter! For those who blame the "shiftless" welfare recipients...know this: IF you don't have a place to live and someone to "rent" to you ...you DO NOT qualify for welfare. You need a place of residence to get welfare and you need welfare to get a place of residence. Also: If you don't have a car...don't bother going on a job interview unless it's within walking distance (and most of them aren't!). If you can't afford to wash your clothes or buy new ones once in awhile: don't bother going on job interviews because you will not even be considered! IF you have no place to shower or bathe...don't expect the YMCA or schools to let you shower there because they will NOT do so!

Bottom line: UNLESS you have lived in abject poverty (and yes people are doing so here in the U.S....don't go spouting off about how "easy" poor people have it and/or how lazy they are! Bottom line: People can and do go hungry in this country and many because they make as little as $15 over the limit needed to qualify for FS and cash assistance!

I wish all of you had lived my life (and could still be living it)...I bet every last one of you would be singing a different tune about "no poor people in this county"...no hunger in this county and the "lazy no good shiftless drain on the economy poor!"

 

Yes I am! I also have to keep my house (here in Western NY during the coldest days of the year) at 52 degrees because I heat with oil and do not know when I will be able to put more oil into the tank!

I don't qualify for food stamps because my Social Security is exactly $15 over the limit needed! I haven't had meat in over a week. I live on eggs (which are filling and cheap), pasta and a few canned veggies I canned over the summer because friend gave me all the leftover produce from her garden. Hell this fall...I even asked the farmer of a cabbage and pumpkin patch if I could glean the fields after his workers were done picking because I know they only want veggies of a certain height/width. HE looked at me like I was crazy and then said "help yourself". When I went back there were three huge cabbages sitting next to an empty crate that said "To Helen: take these with my best wishes". I will forever be grateful to that man. True I got sick of cabbage (fried, boiled, baked, raw) but I was full for two weeks! There were times when I ate boiled potatoes and poor man's gravy five days a week (and for t hose who don't know poor man's gravy is lard melted in a frying pan, add flour andlet it brown. Add water and stir until thick!)

My money goes to pay my car insurance for my 1985 Chevy chevette (that's chevette NOT corvette) so I can make my dr appointments every week, electric, water bill, phone bill, heating and taxes! Believe me when you get $701 a month total and your land taxes are $700 in January, your village taxes are another $600 in June and your school taxes are almost $800 in September...there is NO money to spend on food!

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Neighbor for Neighbor? I have no idea of what that is but would love to hear about it!

 

Left-Right; no child in the U.S.A. should be starving when we have given Billions of dollars and grain to other Countries.

Democrats love to use the fact that we have starving Children in the United States to attempt to spend more money that we can all see has not ever been used to feed starving by Democratic Majorities

Their continued use of this "talking point" year after year; years that they controlled the House and Senate and never stopped the starvation by using existing programs or administrations, diverting monies from other countries to our own,working with farms, grocery manufactures, grocery stores to develop assistance programs nationally, State or Locally.

Just another attempt to attack Republicans for not doing what they themselves are not doing.

 

This will likely soar high, but....
if there was no welfare, there would be a job available for everyone who wanted one.

 

I am curious. What was the year you were 18 and living like this? Were you able to afford health insurance?

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How do you substantiate this opinion? Would those jobs pay enough for the person to survive on? How many hours would a person need to work those jobs to make ends meet, and would it be physically possible for them to do it?

 

As a young lad, I worked at a Safeway in the Rio Linda, CA ghetto... Del Paso Heights store... it was a pit of an area. It was during the Evil HW Bush era.

I never saw a single kid starve. To this day, I have never seen a kid starve.

This scare tactic fallacy by the left is just pathetic.