Why do Republicans make so many strawman arguments?

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  1. Josh77

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    You don’t believe all lives matter?
     
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    Yes but Black Lives Matter just way way more. I mean when you go out to an important event you wear Black not pink. Black clothes matter.
    I don’t know. I just thought I’d try the other position for awhile and that’s the best I can come up with.
     
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    Hell man we all tan from blackish to pinkish...
     
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    No they don't. If they did, they would try to focus on the big problem of inner city murders, rather than the .00001% of murders.
     
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    yup, it’s all a political game. They have to keep people divided so they they can strategize to win blocks of the population through their manipulations, no matter how destructive they are. They are literally willing to let the country burn to achieve and maintain political power.
     
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    Threads about strawberry farms should be posted in the agriculture forum. On the other hand, if you want to discuss how Democrats project their own behavior on Republicans, this would be the correct forum. Similarly, the misguided belief that Republicans stand up straw man arguments to defeat arguments posed by Socialists who have never been right about anything ever is illogical.
     
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    For whites it depends upon the willingness to UV exposure and the careful balancing of melanoma risk to skin fashion sense.
     
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    You don't believe that black lives matter? It is a subset of "all lives" isn't it?

    I see a lot of conservatives who confuse "black lives matter" as being exclusionary to all other lives, rather than just
    a statement of fact.
     
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    Not really no, no one outside of those suffering from albinism are actually white...
     
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    There is also the fallacious argument of the fallacy of the ladder which states in the case of race that if anyone questions that racism is at the root of any social disparity then we are just a tiny bit away from genocide.
     
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    I call this the "Bumper sticker" mentality.......if it's too long to fit on a bumper sticker, they don't understand it...
     
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    Ok pink or peach colored if you prefer.
     
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    see, I could buy that, except when you see people try to say that all lives matter people get punished. Either beat up, fired, or just called racist for insisting all lives matter.
    I absolutely think black lives matter. Like I’ve said in other posts, these bodies are just vehicles for our spirit/soul. Not liking someone because they have black skin is as stupid as not liking someone because they drive a black car.
     
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    Like I said pinkish tan...
     
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    You are using the actions of less than 1% of a group to define a group. Just because the actions of a few individuals get a
    lot of press doesn't make them a defining characteristic of that group.
     
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    Damn, I could say the exact same thing about police officers, yet all this stupidity over the last few months has been from the masses judging the actions of a tiny sliver of the whole.


    Racism is a ****ing trap. It doesn’t matter if you are on the “good” side or the “bad” side, it will destroy society because nobody can do anything about the color of their skin, and it is going to lead to resentment on both sides, furthering the divide. The sooner we just forget about and bury the whole idea of race, the better off humanity will be.
     
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    Well sherwin Williams might see a distinction between pink and peach and the color tan. I suspect that their paint matching instruments can on human skin as well. But the important thing is that you believe this.
     
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    I prefer to call it throwing as much desperate bullshit against the wall and praying something sticks.
     
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    Actually I think skin is like wrapping paper, it doesn't tell me a thing about what's inside.
     
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    But there are discernible differences in breeds of animals and people are animals and race is largely a question of breed. Differences are not bad by definition.
     
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    Some apparently read "black lives matter" as "only black lives matter." It's a bit confusing as to why they do this. It's not a difficult concept.
     
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    My challenge is still out there. Can anyone think of any cause in which the African American community organized for any group other than themselves? Tons of other groups mobilized in support of their civil rights. This is why Black Lives Matter is viewed by other groups with the nickname Only Black Lives Matter!
     
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    Just because it doesn't make headlines doesn't mean that black Americans don't raise money for hurricane and natural disaster relief. Or local food drives, renewal projects, schools, churches and other needy causes.
     
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    Ok give me an example when the recipients are not also people of African ancestry.
     
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    That's why you geniuses who couldn't lose in 2016 were outsmarted and crushed in the electoral college ,,, only to run off and blame the electoral college for own shortcomings.

    If you geniuses were that smart, you wouldn't have let a dummy like Trump run circles around you and you wouldn't have had to spend the next 4 years throwing temper tantrums.
     
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