Why I dislike the AGW cult

He misses a lot mind you

 

And they blame our industry rather than the fact that humans are constantly breathing.

 

I will say it quickly. Besides the insult by blaming man, they don't even speak of the fact that humans are always breathing. I suggest over and over, plant more plants. If you cut down the Amazon, keep replanting it. Keep the environment lush with green plants. And please say a blessing for the farmers who in fact have to keep greening the planet as they increase crop sizes.

I hear about the sea will cover me up,. Where are the local warnings? Locals still want to approve more and more building permits very near actual sea level. What the hell is wrong with the city fathers if you are correct?

 

I've never yet encountered an individual who didn't 'hate the cult of AGW' simply because AGW forces them to feel guilty about their lifestyle. Or worse ... might at some point force them to adopt a less consumption heavy lifestyle.

IOW - it's always personal, and it's always self-motivated. Though most will deny this furiously. Not all, but most.

 

Nope. Consensus only leads to elaboration of existing knowledge. Breakthroughs require defiance of the consensus.

Wrong again. But I can't claim to have made any breakthroughs.

 

No, I am correct.

But it is the original consensus-defying theory that is the advancement, not its subsequent validation.

No, that's just more false and absurd garbage from you. When Ignaz Semmelweiss discovered the principle of medical sepsis, he was right, and his discovery was perfectly correct, and could have saved thousands of lives even though it took decades for the accredited institutions to understand, validate and accept it, and they murdered many thousands of patients because their consensus was wrong and they wouldn't let go of it.

No, that's just false. If he actually does have a cure, then he is automatically in the right, and it is up to the accredited institutions to find a willingness to admit that THEY ARE WRONG.

Nope.

No, it is either correct or not. The institutions just determine if they are going to learn it, or continue to teach false theories.

I guess a scientific genius like you figures ad hominems are valid arguments...

Semmelweiss was right. The institutions killed thousands of people by resisting his discovery.

Validation is not discovery. Validation just determines how well accepted a discovery will be, not whether it is true.

 

Your understanding of science makes clear your lack of experience with it.

 

Remember this when I am proved right and you are proved wrong.

 

You are wrong on so many levels. The FDA validates medication and treatments only after they have been run through a series trials. This has been the case for decades. NOTHING is sanctioned until it has institutional validations. It s absolutely stupid to think anyone persons work is approved and becomes a major discovery for use in any science until a consensus has been arrived at by testing labs affiliated with a plethora of renowned and accredited institutions. Nothing in any science field is accepted on one persons word. We have used the scientific method to verify EVERY important discovery and EVERYONE of them used the institutional approach. For every discovery validated by test and trials, there are many that are discredited. To say that the original work is a discovery without validation, is really counter to what actually goes on. Einstein was NOT credited with work that he did on general relativity until his work was tested. Refer to the “ Einstein and Eddington. “ it’s typical of what happens. A discovery doesn't exist until it has been accepted by testing and trials. Don’t be absurd.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0995036/

You sound like the typical conspiracy theory lunatic.

 

You have to wonder if it’s a conscious decision

You don’t have to feel guilty about not understanding AGW. I bet most don’t understand how their cell phone works or how antibiotics work. It’s just ludicrous for deniers to think they are smarter then every instituted of higher learning in the world because they dont understand the work they do. There are no accredited institutes of education that agree with deniers, that’s a pretty big affront to stupidity. Let deniers wear their badge of ignorance with pride. It doesn’t bother me. It just says volumes about them.

 

Ahhhh so that's why we should convert and become true believers, so we can remove our badge of ignorance and be allowed on the band wagon. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

So, you do think you smarter then the science department in every accredited university in the world ?
Are you smarter then NASA ?
Are you smarter then these 81 major corporations ?
Smarter then every govt. in the free world ?
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...gle-coca-cola-apple-join-obamas-fight-against

Just a simple question. How come you know so much more ?

 

And more importantly are you smarter than this 47 page list of IPCC AR5 contributors?

https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ar5/ar5_authors_review_editors_updated.pdf

 

Even the "true believers" are losing their faith in corrupt political "science".

"The organization that uncovered the world of offshore tax havens and rogue international finance in the Panama Papers and Luxembourg Leaks has shifted its attention to fake science. In collaboration with reporters from 18 news outlets all over the world, German newspaper Süddeutsche Zeitung examined 175,000 scientific articles published by five of the world’s most prominent pseudo-scientific publishing platforms. The result? The collaboration found that some 400,000 scientists worldwide have been published in these journals since 2013."

MOTHER JONES, 400,000 Scientists All Over the World Have Been Published in Fake Journals, Journalists investigated widespread fraud within the scientific publishing community., BY KARI SONDEJUL. 20, 2018.
https://www.motherjones.com/media/2018/07/real-news-tackles-fake-science/

 

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I think there may be some confusion here. Post #288 was not directed toward you.

 

I hear you.......will delete.

 

I probably should be careful about claiming the IPCC contributor list is more important. I'm not even sure why I worded it that way because I don't actually think that. What I meant to say was "in addition". Let's just chalk this up to a brain fart on my end.

 

I see how you think now, everyone's saying it so it must be true. Do some research on the Washington scab lands and the guy that said it was a monumental flood that caused them while all the scientist said it was wind and rain erosion and labeled this guy a complete nut. He was obviously an idiot and a moron to even suggest a flood. The volumn of water required was too great and there was never a lake that big.

THE 1927 CONFRONTATION
The controversy erupted in 1927 when Bretz delivered a presentation to the Geological Society of Washington, D.C. The audience was packed with eminent geologists who were prepared to disagree. Bretz stated his conclusions—and his reservations. His theory was denounced as “preposterous” and “incompetent”. Regrettably, then—and for years after—many of Bretz’s opponents never bothered to visit the scablands, or even undertake a detailed analysis of the evidence he presented.

http://glaciers.us/jhbretz

 

You still don't get it do. Conspiracy theorist never do. You obviously lack knowledge of science and can't think for yourself and don't have a clue how institutional knowledge works. This is just more dribble without institutional backing. Tell me again why you're smarter them the publications of the 81 major corporations I referenced, all the universities and every country in the world. How are you so smart ?
Just name ANY country, any university or any major corporation that agrees. Your little stories of individual experiences mean NOTHING.

 

Please, not to worry. I understand where you're coming from now.

 

I think or believe that one place to park the research on effects of extreme heat is in Death Valley, Ca.

Due to all the AGW clamor, one has to expect that the worlds hottest place ever would be right where we do some research on human survival in extreme heat.

So how hot is Death Valley. Since 1913, hot as hell but compared to 1913, chilly.

Here is a short video on Death Valley. You will learn about the cooked human. I want you to try to imagine you are right now walking on the earth where you contact a 200 degree Earth. People that live in Death Valley do this. Imagine in your car the fire temperatures rolling on 200 degree terra firma.

They survive people. Yes though it was much hotter 105 years ago, they survived.

So knock off the fear mongering contained in AGW.

Judy woodruff on PBS has the nerve to claim that on July 24, yesterday a new world record was set but she claims about 124 degrees. Chilly compared to the 134 of the old days over 100 years ago.

 

First, knock off lying about "fear mongering". We're not doing that. You're telling that lie about us so that you don't have to address what we actually say, being you're incapable of addressing what we actually say.

Second, the fact that people can survive in Death Valley has no relation to the fact that global warming is occurring. That claim is a sleazy and senseless red herring on your part, one you tossed out because you're too ignorant to discuss the actual issues.

Third, don't bother weeping about how mean I'm being. Nobody is falling for that deflection either.

A new _African_ temperature of 124F was set. That was what was reported. You didn't understand what was being said, because you never understand the topic. And then, based on that misunderstanding, you told a big lie about Judy Woodruff. Do you have any regrets about doing that?

 

Just so you know that 134F degree reading in 1913 has had a cloud of suspicion hanging over it since it was first reported 105 years ago. There is currently a review underway by the WMO to verify it and it isn't going well. It's likely it will be stricken from the record in my opinion. It is actually believed the 129.2F reading on June 30th, 2013 is the highest temperature reliably recorded in Death Valley. And before you cry foul actually read the arguments that are being made as to why that 134F reading is likely not credible. Christopher Burt and William Reid are the researchers leading the review. You can see a summary of their analysis in laymen's terms here and here. Their research is in the process of being submitted for formal review.

 

It proved yes "all the scientist" can indeed be wrong and they have a habit of labeling anyone who disagrees with them a nut.