Why is Obama rising in the polls?

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  1. StephenKnight

    StephenKnight New Member

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    Can someone explain this to me?

    The recent jobs report was bad. More people gave up looking for work. Job creation is slowing. They also said fewer jobs were created in July than they estimated.
    Yet recent polls seem to show voters trusting Obama more on the economy than Romney...
    Eh?

    Iran is closer than ever to nuclear capability.
    Obama refused to meet with the Israeli PM, when Israel may be days or weeks away from a potential strike on Iran.
    Our ambassador in Libya was assassinated, on the 11-year anniversary of 9/11.
    Yet a recent poll shows voters trusting Obama more on foreign policy than Romney.
    Why?

    By rights, this should be a bad week for Obama. Bad jobs report, not good for his domestic policy record, and one of our diplomats gets whacked on 9/11, surely a black mark on his foreign affairs record...

    Yet he's rising in the polls?

    Someone please explain.
     
  2. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Probably has more to do with the bumbling Romney than with people liking Obama. Same reason Kerry lost in 2004, only this time it's the Republicans putting up a hot dogger as their candidate.
     
  3. Bain

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    I think the Romney lies are catching up with him. The man constantly is making statements lacking a factual basis.
     
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    I think Romney is banking on support for an invasion of Iran. The support just ain't there. I think he's also banking on winning without having to show his amnesty agreement with the IRS. And, I also think many people believe that Romney and his ilk were responsible for the economic crash. AND, frankly, we're all a bit tired of middle-aged, rich, white, Republican men with fawning wives.

    Last but not least, a lot of Americans recognize that the Republican Party was the party of obstruction when people had lost their jobs and were losing their homes.
     
  5. Craftsman

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    He's the better candidate.
    It's not much more complicated than that.
    romney is worse than mcCain was and he was the worst republican to even run for the White House.
    romney makes him look good.
    Not even the republicans, who always do as they are told can get behind him, they hated him 4 years ago and they hate him now. That is one reason the party is in shambles but the *********s get a lot blame here as well. They have fractured the GOP to the point of being useless as a party.
    Bad for republicans but really good for the country.
     
  6. Gorn Captain

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    Aside from dislike and/or distrust of Mitt Romney, things unlikely to change in 50+ days or in three debates...there is little explanation available.

    BTW, this is today's Gallup-

    General Election: Romney vs. Obama

    Obama 50, Romney 44

    Obama +6
     
  7. homerjay_s

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    Romney was a throw away candidate from the get go. It's all just a soap opera designed to distract you from the fact that there is no democracy. We are under rule by corporate oligarchy. Obama is a good puppet for them.
     
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    We also thought Obama was a good puppet for Netanyahu. Turns out it ain't so. I am pleased.
     
  9. Windigo

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    Axelrod threatened gallop to get them to over sample democrats and when they refused he joined the government in a suit against gallop. All the other polling companies that weren't already corrupt got the message and fell in line.
     
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    This is another reason romney is losing, nutbags on the right and the lies they tell.
     
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    They are both puppets for the same puppet masters.
     
  12. Gorn Captain

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    And naturally, if the President wins November 6th, you will charge "voter fraud" and claim the election was "stolen", so as to comport with your unalterable beliefs?
     
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    I am sure, as usual, that there is a helluva lot more to your story.
     
  14. 1ceman1

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    Let's look at the history of the past few years. Americans saw a Congress bail out Wall Street after which instead of going back to work Wall Street decided to throw a party with taxpayer money. Now Mitt did not have anything to do with the actual fat cats that made this public debacle but being a former wall street broker most people throw him into the guilty by association column. Efforts by Romney to make the election about the economy are justified, yes the economy is bad, but is he the right man to work through it? If another bank or insurance company fails how would Romney respond/ how would Obama respond?

    Second, foreign policy, I was fortunate enough to study abroad during the last years of Prez. Bush's and much of Obama's presidency. My friends abroad love Obama, not so much Bush, they believe that no matter what the country the sovereignty is decided by it's people and not by the people of the US and Obama is allowing nations to do that by slowly pulling our troops out. Romney is a governor so we can expect that he does not have much foreign policy experience but alienating Russia does not seem to be a good start. Also, let's get a clear understanding of why a nuclear Iran is actually a bad thing. Most of the world gets their oil supply from the Middle East this includes China, the EU, USA, India, Japan, Australia etc. Having one nuclear power in Israel and another in Iran will increase turmoil in the region, it is not a direct threat to the American homeland. Obama is a realist, he knows eventually that Iran will go nuclear and there is not much the United States can do to stop that except maybe an invasion. The feasibility of an invasion is just outright stupid. It is the 2nd most populous nation in the Middle East behind Pakistan conquering and then HOLDING would be impossible unless we want to drain our economy. Lastly, all powerful men want only one thing to stay in power, Iran won't launch against anyone because it is assured of it's own destruction if it does so.

    Lastly, while it is a very sad thing that such a good ambassador that worked with the Libyan people to such a great extent was killed, blaming Obama for his death is like blaming the parents of the victims of the Columbine shootings for sending their children to school. Let's put the blame where it should go: the militants who engaged in the firefight! To say that we might have supplied these guys with arms and ammunition isn't even doing justice. That's like saying blame Smith and Wesson for handgun violence?! There needs to be a focused and expedient effort to find these militants and bring them to justice, they are petty thugs and murderers, no reason to politicize it here and play the blame game. Which by the way, Romney did and got blasted by his own party for doing.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the people are upset with Congress, not Obama, they like Obama, and they are not blind, they can see republicans are being part of the problem rather then part of the solution when it comes to the issues America is facing
     
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    Now that everybody knows teh chronology of the tragic events in lybia, romney is trailing because he's an intemperate, undisciplined, lying fool willing to score a cheap political point at the country's expense.
     
  18. Chaz21

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    Because four years ago is not that long ago. The independents know that +96,000 is better than -750,000 and while "The recent jobs report was bad." as you claim, it's not as bad as it was when he took office.

    Quite simply because Romney has zero experience in foreign policy. Neither does his running mate (I sorry but "I voted to send people to war doesn't count with me).
    Obama had two years on the senate foreign relation's committee before he was elected and his running mate served and lead (or was ranking minority) on the foreign relation committee for decades.

    And finally...Romney blew it with his timing and the release of that statement.

    These are my opinions anyway.
     
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    The most recent poll shows that Romney is leading Obama by 1% after the Democratic Convention put Obama in the lead in almost every poll by around 5% for a week but there are signs that his post-convention bounce is dissipating. Obama's current lead in the polls is temporary and the presidential race is expected to tighten in the coming weeks.

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    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 46% of the vote. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. This is the first time in a week that Romney has held even a single-point advantage.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
     
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    has to do with poll manipulation..media lying and distorting the real poll numbers..come election day you will see what the real truth is..obama bin lying will be gone
     
  21. Chaz21

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    Try the rights other favorite source:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/12/fox-news-poll-obama-has-lead-over-romney-in-post-convention-poll/

    or are they part of the "media bias" I hear so much of also?
     
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  25. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    I would say thats pretty accurate.
     

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