Why is Trump threatening to shut down our government?

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    If it would work, liberals would support it. I am a Republican all my life, and I am also a realist. Obama was tossing illegal immigrants
    by the tens of thousands, and that is a fact. Obama did not lie to me about anything. The CBO says it can be fixed, but the insurance companies are dropping out due to the uncertainty and the fact that Trump won't pay them. You need to give credit where credit is due,
    rather than stick to your guy like a fly to fly paper. He is not on your side. He is pulling the wool over your your eyes, being the con that he is. The wealthy will get wealthier, and the poor and working class will get poorer under Trump.
     
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    And what of those lying about having a replacement plan for nearly a decade?
     
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    Once all the equipment and people are at the base of your dream of a wall, it would take less than a minute to get over that 30 foot wall. So your wall has just extended the total time by one minute from the point they were seen by your drone or camera. And, also then what? If the guards could not do anything to apprehend those people before the wall was built, this extra minute is not going to make any difference other than the huge cost of the wall
     
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    Sure, maybe Spidermexican could.

    Walls work, just deal with it.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh I agree, but now we know who they are.
     
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    But let's not spare any expense on sexual reassignment surgery of US troops! Those transgender soldiers are vital to our national security ... :roflol: Liberals are a hoot!
     
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    No, it's not a fact.

    Obama spent a few years saying he didn't have the authority to write immigration law, then he did it anyway.

    The Obama administration also knew it was allowing gang members and criminals into the US, and did it anyway.
     
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    They protest the wall as much as they do because they know it will work. It's really that simple.
     
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    All the while complaining about Trump not doing anything about the opioid crisis, they fight to keep the smugglers trafficking lanes open.:confuse:
     
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    I am sharing what I have read. He was called "the deporter in chief" and I have no reason to question it. It is ok to give the opposition
    credit where credit is due. It doesn't mean that I am a supporter. You are one of Trump's base, yes? I am not.
     
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    And North Korea is called the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea, doesn't mean it's true.

    Perhaps if you read the information in the links you would understand why he was not really deporting anyone. He simply recategorized to make it appear he was deporting people.

    The links are not from "conservative" sources. Are you afraid of learning you're wrong?

    There's a word they use for people who "have no reason to question" the lies they've been told.

    Obama behaved himself to get his 2nd term, and then put his open borders plan into full action.

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    I don't know what that word is, and it may apply to you. 2.7 million deported under Obama, most of whom have broken our laws.
    Your guy Trump is deporting anybody who looks like a Mexican, criminal or not. Let's not forget that he said that he was going to toss
    all 11.5 million out.
     
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    Then clearly you can't differentiate between "I heard he was the "deporter in chief"" and facts, or blindly don't want to look at the facts, even though they come from left leaning sources.
     
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    He was called the deporter in chief
     
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    And the POTUS before him deported over 8 million.

    Like I said, you can call him whatever you want, he deported fewer people than any president back to the late 60's.

    That's a fact.

    Obama deportations, compared to any POTUS since the late 60's, isn't.
     
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