"Why Nurse Hickox Might Lose Legal Battle Against Ebola Quarantine"

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  1. expatriate

    expatriate Banned

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    well said.

    In a nutshell: ignorant sheeple are frightened by what they don't understand. Informed, intelligent people understand they don't need to be frightened. The responses in this thread prove that point fairly succinctly.
     
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    It'll be interesting, but I imagine the courts will give the states wide latitude in determining whether a quarantine is needed or not. But it's an interesting argument, because quarantine is basically house arrest, which would be illegal without cause in other situations. If she can persuade the court that it's a valid civil liberties issue, she may have a chance.
     
  3. expatriate

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    well...she's already arrived, and if she does develop symptoms, she should be quarantined at that time. Do we quarantine everyone who gets off a plane from Africa for 21 days with no other reason?
     
  4. Wake_Up

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    Fair question. I don't know why, specifically, quarantines aren't done for the flu. I can say that vaccines exist for the flu, typically only certain groups of folks are at risk of death and issues/symptoms that can lead to death can be treated. Death from the flu typically involves people with other medical issues. I've had the flu in my life and required no doctor visits, as has many people.

    Ebola has no vaccine, the only treatment so far seems to be that magic drug that only a couple of folks were able to get or blood transfusions from those previously infected. It will kill perfectly healthy people, no other medical issues needed. Once infected, no doctor visit = near certain death.

    I think in time we'll have a vaccine and ebola will be just another disease on the list of those conquered.

    Right now, it's not.

    So, to answer directly, no, I don't support quarantine for the flu. Would I scream my rights are being taken if flu quarantines were enacted, no.
     
  5. Wake_Up

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    Nah, the pathetic part is the collective deep throating of the narrative by the left.

    It's hardly contagious...this person isn't sick, this person isn't contagious...right up to the point they are.

    Your ridiculous lies about wombs and rooms are just filler fluff.

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    By time she arrived in Maine, she had a whopping 2 days to go...but nope, just gotta strut that selfish arrogance.

    Stupid liberals.
     
  6. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The nurse should be lucky that we don't do to her what we do to rabid dogs.
     
  7. Wake_Up

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    Go argue it with the quarantine laws.

    No inalienable rights are being thrown anywhere.

    Stop the lies.

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    So then tell us, should she develop these symptoms, where will she be when she does?

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    Actually, she had 2 days of quarantine remaining to complete in Maine...she chose to ignore that.
     
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    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, 150,000,001 have majority and thus decide the rights for themselves and of the other 149,999,999.

    At least that's how democracy is supposed to be.
     
  9. BestViewedWithCable

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    She should be quarantined to make sure she doesnt kill others.

    and to answer your question, everyone arriving from Africa didnt expose themselves to Ebola.

    This woman is a nurse who went there to help fight ebola.

    big difference.
     
  10. TexMexChef

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    What does voluntary mean to you?
     
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    Typhoid Mary did not use any defense...that is asinine.

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    She should be don't mean jack-crap in the law.
     
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    Are you advocating violence against another human being genius?
     
  13. PT Again

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    "Some difficulties surrounding her case stemmed from Mallon's vehement denial of her possible role, as she refused to acknowledge any connection between her working as a cook and the typhoid cases. Mallon maintained that she was perfectly healthy, had never had typhoid fever, and could not be the source"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoid_Mary

    Learn some history


     
  14. expatriate

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    so... how do we know that none of the people on the planes flying back from Africa haven't exposed themselves to Ebola? Why are you willing to take that risk, when quarantining people for 21 days is so unobtrusive and is so worth it considering the greater good of a nation full of frightened people?
     
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    As I understand it, There are no direct flights from Liberia, to the USA. What your suggesting is quarantining everyone who comes into the USA for 21 days, and I dont think thats legitimate.

    We know this woman was a health worker who went to Liberia to help with the Ebola outbreak. Shes known to have potential exposure.

    You know just like this guy....

    New York City doctor with Ebola reportedly lied about his movements in city
     
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    Irrational fear can quarantine people from reality, and those infected by it will readily grovel before the nonsensical demands of the State.

     
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    Yeah

    21 days off will surely be what keeps people from going to Africa to help fight a disease...........:roll::roll:
     
  18. expatriate

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    hey... it's no big deal.... it's only 21 days.... think about the inconvenience you impose on a few plane loads of people versus the health of an entire nation of frightened people. If you are considering the minor inconvenience of one person versus 300 million, how can you then balk at the minor inconvenience of a few thousand people? Statistically, the difference is really irrelevant. If you are willing to quarantine one person for 21 days who shows no symptoms, you should be willing to advocate the quarantining of a few thousand to protect 300 million. If not, why not?
     
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    Would your irrational fear cause you to demand that all medical personnel attending the only person infected with ebola in the US, Dr. Craig Spencer, at Belleview, be immediately incarcerated for three weeks and prevented from treating all patients, even when they are asymptomatic and, therefore, not contagious?

    Maximal statists seem eager to kowtow to politicians regardless of the consequences rather than follow the dictates of common sense and scientific reality.
     
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    she's getting all the attention she wants.... but it sure looks like she needs more. I'm certain her co-workers are enjoying it too.... NOT!
     
  21. TexMexChef

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    Yes lets make a fake attempt to make people feel fuzzy-good. Don't attermpt to educate the masses..."sacrifice a few" in the volcano of ignorance so society can survive.

    I wonder if She is a virgin...
     
  22. JP5

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    She handled an Ebola patient the night before she left....by her own admission. From that last contact, she has a 21-day incubation period....which means it can come on at any time and quickly. Want her sitting next to you at a football game when she becomes symptomatic? How 'bout your kids?

    Most of us say "No." She needs to start being a little bit more considerate of her own fellow countrymen and women.
     
  23. PeppermintTwist

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    As I recall the guy said he self-monitored, which is not the same as self-quarantined.
     
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    We quarantined astronauts, for Pete's sake.
     
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    Just one , it appear you know more about the proper protocol than the EXPERTS !
     

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