Why Rick Santorum has won me over.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Emagatem, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. NetworkCitizen

    NetworkCitizen New Member

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    mmmmm. Emagatem talking about "juicy sex scandals".
     
  2. Emagatem

    Emagatem New Member

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    The guy who created the mess is long gone, and all of the current candidates hate his philosophy.
    How about polling firms?
    And ten more points to Santorum for being so likely to hand Obama a victory if he wins the nomination. He's a dick and that's what I love about him. (Like that, NetworkCitizen?)
     
  3. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Well yeah but who is actually electable is what matters. I could vote for Ralph Nader all day long but it's absolutely pointless.
     
  4. NetworkCitizen

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    haha. i like that emagatem. Don't stop now.
     
  5. darckriver

    darckriver New Member Past Donor

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    Interesting strategy but you may have picked the wrong candidate to help your man win. Don't forget that it was the conservative wing of the Repub party that took back Congress in 2010. All those folks are still quietly biding their time until Nov. Don't be too surprised, should Santorum become the nominee, that he'll do better than many would currently suppose. Don't count it out. Cheer for Ron Paul if you really want a victory for Obama - and even that is debatable.
     
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    I wish that were the case, but I'd have to disagree. Look how Ron Paul is treated by much of the conservative media. Social issues remain integral to the GOP, Santorum is just more on the extreme side.
     
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    Santorum is a dick, and that's what she likes about him.

    Brilliant!

    That's what the closet republicans like about him too. That's also what Sandusky liked about him and the reason he won Santorum's golden angel award.
     
  8. Emagatem

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    Santorum's defining aspect isn't that he's strongly conservative, it's that he focuses on social issues. In that sense, he's a bad fit for most American conservatives, who care more about national security and the economy and less about things like family values these days. As such, it would be hard for a lot of conservatives to get excited about Santorum, which is what makes him so weak against Obama.
    The fact that someone like Ron Paul has gained popularity at all represents something of a libertarian shift, or at least a lack of interest in social issues. After all, most of the Paul-hate on the conservative side focuses on his foreign policy, not his social policy.
     
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    Most of the Paul hate comes from the corporatist media who are mouthpieces of the banking and large corporate establishment of crony collectivism.

    The same ones who own your dear leader, obama.

    Obama, the anti-liberal who has destroyed due process and continued the war on liberty.
     
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    Santorum, Gingrich or Paul guarantees a re-election of Obama. Romney will be close but if Obama can manage to quit f-ing up so much, he'll probably pull it off.
     
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    Was this supposed to be a joke? Rick Santorum is the most conservative candidate in the entire race. He's the only one with the balls to be openly socially conservative.

    If you're serious here, I hope your strategy blows up in your face. Because Santorum would actually make a pretty good president. Certainly better than what we've got now.

    I think what you Obama people don't get is that if he wins re-election, we all lose. To support him anyway because of petty partisanship is like committing suicide to "make the world sorry." It's just a silly act of self-destruction that doesn't help anyone.
     
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    I disagree - in fact, I emphatically disagree! The more conservative "Conservatives" would flock to Santorum over any other candidate and ESPECIALLY over Obama. If it were decided already that Santorum was the nominee, you would see a huge swell of conservatives coming out of the woodwork, so to speak, to support him in the election. He may lose some of the Independent vote that Romney would've garnered so I have no idea how that would interplay. But I can guarantee you this - conservatives WILL enthusiastically support him. You can take that to the bank.

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  13. fifthofnovember

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    Well, I support Paul, but Santorum is the only other one worth casting a vote for. I hear this crap about how only Romney can beat Obama, but if we're just going to replace an elitist liberal with an elitist liberal, then who cares? Might as well not even vote, but some people are so partisan that they don't care who they are voting for, as long as "their team" wins, even when there is no difference between the candidates. Romney vs. Obama provides them with that illusion of choice, so they can congratulate themselves at the tailgate party.
     
  14. Emagatem

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    You misunderstand. I'm not commenting on whether he's the most conservative, I'm saying his priorities are different from typical American conservatives. Specifically, I'm saying he's defined himself by social issues, which American conservatives don't particularly care about at the moment.
    Doubtful. Conservatives have scoped out every alternative to Romney only to lose enthusiasm and discard them one by one. The only thing that will be different with Santorum is timing: Santorum actually has a chance to secure the nomination before he loses his support. At that point, Republicans will be stuck with a candidate they don't like anymore, and Obama can cruise to victory. I find it hard to believe that Republicans will fall in love with Santorum as they failed to do with any other candidate, especially since Santorum's priorities are so different from the voter base.
     
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    Santorum isn't fit to be president, and that's just about it.

    He isn't smart enough, or tough enough, or educated enough and his opinions are strictly parochial.:pc:
     
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    That might be true but for the current incumbent it's a known factor. The only way President Obama can get a second term is promoting racism and division and buying votes wholesale. He's already working the campaign.
     
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    red states rule New Member Past Donor

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    Rick is the ONLY conservative answer to Obama.

    Mitt is Obama Lite and McCain 2.0
     
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    Anyone who still supports Obama is delusional.
     
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    Rick Santorum is a big government liberal.
     
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    His views aren't "radical" they are the opposite of that. Santorum has radical views. What is radical about wanting to follow the constitution completely? Thats exactly what is SUPPOSED to be happening.
     
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    If it makes it to a California GOP Primary I'll vote Santorum
     
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    That man is so 'homophobic', I'll never vote for him.
     
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    Don't be to confident. Social Conservatives will have a revival in this country. Why? One word. Hispanics!

    Throughout Latin America, latinos practice social conservative values. Many countries south of the border are close to the Catholic church. Legal gay marriage? Fuggetaboutit. Unheard of south of the border. Abortions illegal? Latin countries ban abortions.

    If Santorum is smart. If he listens to Latinos and their concerns then Republicans have a chance to get the Latin vote. Not only in this election, but elections to come.
     
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    "Early in the George W. Bush administration, along with Dick Armey, Tom DeLay, and Grover Norquist, Santorum was at the center of the Republicans' tactic of pressuring lobbying firms to hire only Republicans. At regularly scheduled once-weekly meetings held since Republicans took Congress and in 1994, Santorum and other leading Republicans were provided with a list of job openings at lobbying companies, and literally told the lobbyists who to hire -- always well-connected Republicans. Called the "K Street Project" because most lobbying firms have offices on Washington's K Street, the idea backfired when the lobbyists' "freeze-out" of Democrats became so successful that all the legislators on the take from crooked lobbyist Jack Abramoff were Republicans. When the arrangement was first reported in 2006, Santorum denied it was true and claimed to not even know Abramoff. When it was proven that Abramoff had been involved, Santorum announced that the "K Street" meetings had been ended. Months later it was reported that the meetings between lobbyists and Republicans were still being held weekly at the same time, place, and day. In 2006, the non-partisan Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington named Santorum one of the twenty most corrupt US legislators."
     
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    Poop and lube!
     

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