Why the fixation on the whistleblower identity?

Nonsense. But Biden isn't the principal target anyhow...so investigate away. The more important target was/is to overthrow the Mueller report conclusions on Russian interference in the 2016 election, to justify pardons and the lifting of sanctions against the Russians for the interference.

 

What changes in the law?

 

That's not what I asked.

I asked whether or not you find it suspicious that this whistleblower is being treated differently than other whistleblowers from the recent past.

Because if you paid any attention to how the political and media establishments reacted to whistleblowers like Snowden and Manning, you would see just how different the treatment has been.

Snowden was forced into exile and Manning is in prison right now. Meanwhile, this new "whistleblower" is probably sitting comfortably inside his cushy house in suburban DC having a scotch with John Brennan.

You don't wonder why that is?

 

That's not what I asked.

I asked whether or not you find it suspicious that this whistleblower is being treated differently than other whistleblowers from the recent past.

Because if you paid any attention to how the political and media establishments reacted to whistleblowers like Snowden and Manning, you would see just how different the treatment has been.

Snowden was forced into exile and Manning is in prison right now. Meanwhile, this new "whistleblower" is probably sitting comfortably inside his cushy house in suburban DC having a scotch with John Brennan.

You don't wonder why that is?

 

No I don’t. I find it pretty reasonable that this WB whoever he/she is wants to remain annonymous. Ardent Trump supporters have a colorful history including pipe bombers, Temple shooters and assorted other nutbags. If I were him I would rather sit anonymously in my living room drinking scotch with Brennan or any other sane person than being bombarded by a bunch of Fox News animals, pipe bombers and mass shooters buzzing around my house. Rand Paul, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin and many other have said they know exactly who this person is. It is perfectly legal for any of these idiot blowhards to announce his name. If they feel so strongly about it all they have to do is tweet it. Do you ever wonder why one of these fartbags don’t blurt it out already? Seems strange...Wouldn’t you say?

 

So Snowden is exiled to Russia and Manning rots in jail while this new "whistelblower" is coddled and protected. And you aren't the least bit bothered by that obvious double-standard.

 

Not at all. It’s not my job to defend or prosecute Manning or Snowden either. I wish them all the best. I just wonder why none of these Trumpsters who are demanding to confront this guy don’t use their platforms to expose him. If Trump’s personal AG wants to charge this WB let him go for it. To me, it is not even an issue. If he broke the law arrest him. If these whining little bitches want to finger him and have him relentlessly harassed, then they should quit crying and do it. I don’t give a rat’s ass. It still doesn’t change the fact that what he reported is accurate and has been corroborated. In my view any spotlight thrown on this idiotic administration and the imbeciles who are running around the globe playing sleazy little games like Rudy, Lev and Igor is good for America. The more we know about these types of lying sleazebags the better in my opinion.

 

Start with S.743, "Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act of 2012." Charges against Ellsberg were dismissed due to the "Nixon Plumbers" actions and illegally breaking into his office in an attempt to discover incriminating evidence against him, without a warrant. Manning and Snowden would be guilty of Espionage Acts by illegally releasing classified material to Wikileaks. Both the IG and DNI have testified that the Whistleblower regarding the Trump-Zelenskyy telcon, followed the letter of the law.

 

Quoting washington post doesn't give you credibility any longer. Calling a psychopath, serial rapist and murderer etc....an austere religous scholar went too far. Second of all, read the 6th amendment of the U.S constituion.

The Confrontation Clause of the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right…to be confronted with the witnesses against him

In any case Americans need to know that he worked/s for Brennan, Biden and is Obama's holdover.A partisan activist who colluded with dishonest Schiff, who then blatantly lied about it.

 

1. Four months of taping the President?-- and this call was the best the Trump Haters could come up with? Shows how lame this smear is
2. Input from a handful of people?-- means nothing. All we have is a third-hand spy who's barfing water cooler gossip
3. Undermining a US Election?-- Wild conjecture by Trump fanatics. Biden violated several US Laws about bribery/corruption overseas.
4. Pressure to Investigate the Bidens?-- is an enforcement of US law prohibiting extortion, bribery of foreign official by US Reps. for their profit and the profit of family members (see Hobbs Act and 18USC201(b)).
5. Pressure to Meet Rudy and Barr--STUPID COMPLAINT. You don't like it because of your obsession with Trump
6. T. Brubal was on the call--yet you wrote nothing else. Pretty lame
7. Others were briefed on the call. More third-hand testimony? Lame again
8. The transcript was moved to classification server?-- Seeing that it was stolen by a spy, secure storing was correct. DUH
9. Rudy spoke earlier about Biden?--So did the NYT. They warned Biden his son was in trouble. Let's indict them.
10. Removal of Yavonavitch?--You don't know much. I read about calls for her removal over a year ago for bad mouthing Trump, her boss.

If this is the best you can dredge up and barf out, PRESIDENT TRUMP is a shoe-in for 2020.

Get out your hankies

 

What you really mean is that if you didn't hear about it on Btightbarf it didn't happen. Get out of your bubble.

I'm not sure how many times I need to say it before you see it... Impeachment is not a criminal prosecution.

I know parody is a strange word... but.

 

Taping the President? Not again!

Tell me again... How many people have testified, under oath, verifying his claims?

Has someone besides the Trumpers claimed that?

Your just jealous because Biden was successful in his negotiation and Trump isn't.

I'm not sure why this is important to the whistleblower, but it is a fact.

Do you think this guy will testify.

Well we know Pence was briefed before his trip.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/mike-pence-ukraine-call/index.html

Surprise! It was Trump that released the call.

I think the part you are missing is that Ukraine was being pressured before the phone call.

No. I think it was Rudy she was bad mouthing, but I realize he & Trump are hard to tell apart.

I think once you are impeached and removed from office you can't run again.
But you can send Pence a check I guess.

 

Firstly, unlike you I don't take any major U.S media outlet seriously. I believe the USA destroyed the journalism once they allowed rich owners to rule their TV stations and newspapers like dictators. Journalists are told what to publish and pundits what to say. Total disaster across the board.

Secondly, peoole like you repeatedly accusing the president of being a criminal and committing criminal offence.Is he a criminal or not? Does he deserve due process like anyone else or not?

Finally, it seems that you do not understand how commas are used. Parody? If you read it carefully you will understand that I was reffering to Schiff's lies about not knowing the whistleblower. It turned out that his team met with a whistleblower in secret. A total farce.

 

So where do you go for your "facts?"

The president will have a trail in the Senate. I think that explains your concerns.

Peopole = People?
Offence = Offense?

Schiff was probably as good a person as any to get advice on being a whistleblower.

 

There is a raging forest fire. It was probably started by a match. Let's investigate that match.

 

For heaven's sake, you don"t know the difference between BE spelling and AE, do you? People....wow....you got me.

I am not concerned in the slightest. Trump will be your president until Jan 2025. Of course, unless your lot tries to physically eliminate him.

 

If you had time to worry about my commas, I thought you would like to know about your spelling.

 

It's not at all surprising Donnie J, as a chip off the old blockhead, would have no respect for the law.


“We should follow the law. And I believe the law protects whistleblowers,” said Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.).

“The whistleblower statute is there for a reason. And I think we need to respect the law where whistleblowers are concerned. Eventually that person may decide to come forward voluntarily,” said Senate Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.), who added that senators like Paul are frustrated with the lack of transparency from the House.

Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) said officials “ought to respect the whistleblower laws,” as did Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.). Several senators cited the work of Chuck Grassley, the most senior Senate Republican, who has made whistleblower protections a signature issue.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/05/rand-paul-trump-whistleblower-065917

 

Yes, I think it is to try and punish him in some way. That's how Dirty Don the Con is. He needs to know who is accusing him so that he can launch a vicious counter-attack consisting of ad hominem and plausible untruths in order to try and publicly discredit the person.

 

The treatment Manning and Snowden have received is a travesty. Ellsberg was fortunate enough to have the charges dropped. Manning somewhat lucky to have had her sentence commuted. However, I don't see enough in these examples to point to a broader conspiracy.

For each of the people you cited, they passed classified information to sources that lacked authorization to view it. Despite the fact that it served the public interest, it did not serve the political interests of those in power.

In this case at least, the report serves the interests of the party in control of the House. If this were a report about potential abuse of power for high ranking members across both sides of the aisle? Yeah, no chance it sees the light of day.

 

How stupid do they think we are?

Years Before Complaint, Whistleblower’s Lawyer Vowed to ‘Get Rid’ of Trump

The credibility of the partisan push to oust President Donald Trump and undo the 2016 election took another major hit as the apparent motives of prominent anti-Trump lawyer Mark Zaid were found in a pair of tweets from 2017.

Zaid is an attorney representing the whistleblower who filed a complaint about the president’s July phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.“

Since Jan 20th, I would much rather be in Canada. What a great country! We’ll be great again when @realDonaldTrump leaves,” Zaid wrote in one July 2017 tweet

“It’s very scary,” he wrote in a follow-up post. “We will get rid of him, and this country is strong enough to survive even him and his supporters. We have to.

”https://www.westernjournal.com/year...tm_campaign=lminetwork&utm_content=2019-11-06

 

No, thete are officials who have testified and indicated first person knowledge.

 

Did either of them follow the whistleblower process?
I don't think so.

 

Whistleblower’s Lawyer Sends WH Cease And Desist, Cites Endangerment Of Client
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/whistleblower-lawyer-cease-and-desist

The whistleblower’s lawyer sent the White House a cease and desist letter Thursday, warning that the President’s constant stream of vitriol is putting his client in “physical danger.”

“I am writing to respectfully request that you counsel your client on the legal and ethical peril in which he is placing himself should anyone be physically harmed as a result of his, or his surrogates’, behavior,” attorney Andrew Bakaj wrote to White House counsel Pat Cipollone in a letter obtained by CNN.

 

Makes me wonder if he'll be suicided by his accomplices.