Why would anyone vote for Trump on 2024?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trump supporters are very emotional people (Yes, so are Swifties.) who rage against empirical data, such as election results certified by all fifty states. and the plethora of substantive evidence and corroborative sworn testimony - mostly by Republicans -that has caused grand juries to recommend 91 criminal indictments against him.

    Their object of veneration’s loss in the 2020 presidential election that he still cannot handle has triggered their contempt for the democratic process, law enforcement, our justice system, and the U.S. Constitution.

    Why they worship the grievance-mewling, narcissistic sexual abuser is a mystery to many.

    What did the faded reality tv performer do as President that instills such fanatical passion, causing them to lash out irrationally at anyone who cites the empirical data?

    Let’s put aside both the mindless adoration as well as the moral repugnance, and dispassionately assess Trump’s actual accomplishments as president:

    He vowed to build a “big, beautiful wall!” across the Southern border. He insists that he did, but actual evidence of his fake claim cannot be found. In fact, Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border had risen by 14.7% in 2020 compared with 2016.

    Despite his having brayed that he would revive the coal industry, during his tenure coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 16.7%

    He repeatedly screeched that he would “repeal ‘ObamaCare’ and replace it with “something terrific that covers everybody at “less cost!”, but three million Americans lost health insurance coverage during his tenure, and the Affordable Care Act remains the law of the land, and became more popular than ever.

    2020’s Loser promised to end the military farce in Afghanistan, but perpetuated the Bush fiasco throughout his four years.

    He boasted that he would create jobs, but unemployment soared under Trump, and the nation’s economic upsurge occurred only after he had been dumped by the American electorate. Under Trump, the economy lost 2.9 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased by 1.6 percentage points to 6.3%.

    The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.

    The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.

    Trump’s recently demanding that his Congressional lickspittles scuttle bipartisan legislation that addresses border security so that the crisis can persist and the President can be blamed evokes Trump’s own impotence in the matter:

    Rightest Congressman Chip Roy: “We're not just going to pass the buck and say, 'Oh, any president can just walk in and secure the border. "I saw former President Trump make that allegation today on one of his social media posts: 'All a president has to do is declare the border is closed, and it's closed.'

    "Well, with all due respect, that didn't happen in 2017, '18, '19 and '20. There were millions of people that came into the United States during those four years.”


    So, hysterical rage against Americans who do not venerate Trump aside, what do Trumpers cite as his stellar achievements during his tenure?
     
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    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    No new wars, closing Obama's "kids in cages" which Brandon opened back up, remain in Mexico policy that worked so of course, Brandon ended that policy as replacing the US population is agenda #1 with he and his. Wages rose relative to inflation while under Brandon, I am poorer after 3 years. The Stock market is up a bit at this point, but relative to inflation, I'm still down. He tried to calm the Covid panickers while Brandon wanted hysteria but told us he wasn't going to shut down the country, he was going to shut down the virus and did the opposite. The media sorta did its job. They're supposed to be critical of government. Where they went wrong was in the Russia Russia Russia hoax. Now reasonable people do not believe ANY allegation against Trump. We need an honest, credible media to truly be watch dogs again rather than sycophants. Tax cuts and more.
     
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    Every Trump follower insists that he accomplished great things while he was in office. The reason for this is that Trump can say anything and they will believe him, no matter how ridiculous the claims may be. If he claims a dismal failure to be a success, his followers will brag about it; if he claims he won an election when the vote count shows otherwise, any number of recounts will not convince them.

    As Abe Lincoln said, "Calling a dog's tail a leg doesn't make it one." (no matter WHO insists it to be so)
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    @Natty Bumpo The problem is that the alternative is Joe Biden. He's too old and doddering, he's losing his mental faculties, and most people don't even believe he is in charge of the presidency. Instead, we have an unelected and unaccountable cabal of top advisors and secretaries who are collectively acting as the POTUS. And his VP has one of the lowest approval ratings ever recorded. Most people think she is a dunce, way out of her depth. She is thrilled by little yellow school busses, though. She would probably make a good kindergarten teacher, telling stories to a circle of little kids, but a terrible POTUS.

    Still, the Democratic Party is the majority party, and Trump is the best thing they've ever had for getting out the vote. Democrats would vote for a ham sandwich over Trump, and they will do it in massive numbers. Independents abandoned Trump in 2020. I am doubtful that they'll come back for him. And, not all Republicans want Trump. And many voters will not vote for the "lesser of two evils." Instead, they'll vote third party or just not vote. We'll just have to wait for 9 months to see what happens.

    My :twocents:
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm an independent and I have one big criteria: who starts the wars?

    I was against G W Bush for that reason, but the Biden Administration is even worse.

    He started the war in Ukraine by approving regime change back when he was VP,
    and together with the Democrats stoked if from a low level conflict, into a big hot
    war.

    And now is supplying artillery shells and big bombs to Israel. I wonder what they do
    with those?

    Yes, he supports genocide.

    Can't we impeach a President for supporting Genocide?????
     
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    The alternative to Trump is, apparently, fuel restrictions, gun restrictions, speech restrictions, higher taxes, unlimited immigration and foreign wars. I mean we coulda had Vivek or RFK and avoided most of that as well, but it seems those who oppose Trump do not oppose him strongly enough to support other candidates that promote a similar platform. So Trump is now it.
     
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    That both Trump and Biden are poised to be the nominees of the two major parties will go down as a low point in our nation's history. Americans should be utterly embarrassed by this.
     
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    But for two opposite reasons: Trump for not starting any wars and Biden for starting too many.

    Biden's have been mainly proxy wars, but Israel for example could not have killed a fraction of
    the number of Palestinians without the huge shipments of bombs and artillery shells from the US.
     
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    Because he's better at it than Biden.

    his policies are better than the dncs

    and to be quite frank...to stick it to those on the left who felt that they could control who we get to elect and not elect.
     
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    FYI
    https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/doc...sident-donald-j-trumps-first-two-years-office
     
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    Yeah but Abe did not have social media micro targeting and user's psychological profiles that social media does and that the Trump campaign got through Cambridge Analytica and built on and bilked to the high heavens.
     
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    Economy is just one good reason to vote for Trump.
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    aha the tweet speak for itself.

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    aha , i thought you love Government. isn't Government is God's gift to protect us from ' evil".
     
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    Why would anyone vote for Trump in 2024?

    That's simple. He's not Biden. And if Biden is not the Democrat nominee, he's not a far leftist like anyone else the Democrats will nominate in 2024.

    The real question is, why would anyone vote for Biden in 2024, given that he has shown himself to be mentally incompetent? Why should "the leader of the free world" be senile?
     
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    Let's get to the chase.

    Biden is great at pissing money away and growing the deficit. He doesn't care much if the money goes to his crooked friends who funnel money back to him and his campaign.

    And so far as the Federal Government is concerned, it's not interested in tracking funds to see if they in the place when Congress appropriated them. Case in point, New York is now using Covet appropriated money to buy gift cards for illegal immigrants. That should be cut off at the source, but it's not going to happen.
     
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    Because they feel forgotten and ignored by the political mainstream, because they feel their values and way of life are under attack and because they feel the alternative has proven monumentally incompetent. Whether they are right or not is debatable but that's how they feel.
     
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    There you go. Interjecting something into this thread to which it is about. Since when does infrastructure, welfare or your sex change protect us from the "evil one"?
     
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    Democrats in general do not give money to infrastructure. It doesn't vote.
    Republicans don't change your first graders sex simply because they asked.
    Republicans don't believe closing stores is the only way to deal with looting.
     
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  23. Natty Bumpo

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    I recognize who the grievance jamborees are for.

    Everyone is being so mean to the harmless old sexual abuser who tells his worshipers that he is their savior.

    His incessant whining aside, of all the Loser-in-Denial's major campaign promises about building his big beautiful wall, repealing and replacing 'ObamaCare', creating jobs, lowering the national debt and the trade deficit, etc., etc., etc., which are your favorites?
     
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    None because I think he is a buffoon. But I understand why people vote for him and so should you. And it's not because they're bad people.
     
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    "Why would anyone vote for Trump on 2024?"

    there are people that want to see American destroyed, they want to start over, they do not like our equal rights, or our freedoms

    remember this, this is what many on the right want

    America 2: Now with More Freedom - Glenn Beck's Utopia


    http://www.cc.com/video-clips/gm1vo...--now-with-more-freedom---glenn-beck-s-utopia

    America 2: Now with More Freedom - A Glenn Beck Holiday

    https://www.cc.com/video/i5mo2l/the...-2-now-with-more-freedom-a-glenn-beck-holiday
     
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