Why would anyone vote for Trump on 2024?

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  1. 19Crib

    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is obvious to everyone in both parties, but since when has justice trumped politics?
    You can assume if republicans win, all of the players in Biden's influence peddling will find themselves going bankrupt in local and district courts per the new America 2.0 playing field created by Joetato.
     
  2. Trixare4kids

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    His father is his biggest enabler but there again, the apples don't fall far from the tree. This family is dirty and in fact, they know they sold the big guy for cash and gifts. I wouldn't be surprised to learn they're still scamming.

    She is the very definition of disingenuous.
     
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    All political propaganda. Get some new sources, and then you will see that you've been duped by the leftist media, third arm for the DNC.
     
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    The Privileged Class fears Kamala. It was a political stunt when they chose her as VP. Kamala won’t put up with white liberal men telling her what to do. She will be worse than Trump when it comes to controlling her. Kamala is a strong black woman who hates white America.
     
  5. Joe knows

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    Yes! He made the bump stock a machine gun as defined by law. That definition change literally includes that attachment as a machine gun which by all legal standards means he was the first president to ever force a confiscation or destruction order on a legally defined gun.
     
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    His donors probably have more money than they know what to do with, so they give it Trump.
     
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    Well said!
     
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    I think we have to be practical and not many here are interested in bump stocks to make their guns shoot rapid fire. Unlike the Democrats, you won't see Treuimp clamoring to take away our guns.
     
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    How many should Israel have killed?
     
  10. Joe knows

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    Trump was literally the first president in history to force someone to turn in or destroy (confiscation) a legally defined firearm and it’s just nothing to you because he’s a Republican? You’re the one not being realistic or a real gun supporter. Trump is very anti gun.

    On top of being the first president to confiscate firearms he’s also said he supports taking guns first and due process second. (Supports red flag laws)

    He told members of the Republican Party to stop being scared of the NRA

    and at the end of his term he said he wanted to look into banning silencers.

    Trump is a gun grabber period. And the fact people like you are oblivious to it makes me shiver cause we are suppose to be the gun lovers not the people who support gun grabbers.


    When you talk about being practical, it’s not practical for a gun supporter to support a man like that.
     
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    That's a different issue than bump stocks. But, we cannot allow everyone to own a gun if they are certifiably nuts. Society needs some protection from the crazies and it has to be done with thoughtful legislation as to who determines that and why and have people on both sides in agreement.

    That being said, NO candidate is ever going to be in lockstep with your beliefs or mine. You have to make a choice between good and evil, Biden is truly evil, so what is the only other option?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep it up! Put us in those categories and you just invigorate us to whip your butt!
     
  13. Izzy

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    "Why would anyone vote for Trump on 2024?"

    Because they thrive on his lies and his daily who we're hating today person.


    'Trump blatantly lies about meeting family of murder victim, Ruby Garcia'




    GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) — The sister of murder victim Ruby Garcia said she and her family were home watching live, in disbelief, as former President Donald Trump told an audience in Grand Rapids that he had spoken with “some of her family.”

    “He did not speak with any of us, so it was kind of shocking seeing that he had said that he had spoke with us, and misinforming people on live TV,” Ruby Garcia’s sister, Mavi Garcia, told Target 8.

    Mavi Garcia, the family spokesperson, said neither Trump nor anybody from his campaign has contacted her or anybody in her immediate family. She said her family is close and she would know if that had happened.

    “It was shocking. I kind of stopped watching it. I’d only seen up to that, after I heard a couple of misinformations he said, I just stopped watching it,” Mavi Garcia said.'

    https://www.woodtv.com/news/target-8/family-of-woman-found-dead-on-highway-angered-by-trumps-speech/
     
  14. Pro_Line_FL

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    Actually he has already flip-flopped back to being pro-abortion. He is attacking Florida abortion restrictions as being a "terrible mistake". He has been trying to have it both ways for a long time, first saying he was pro-choice, then bragging about nominating the "most pro-life" justices to USSC, and now he is back to being pro-abortion and attacking other Republicans for being pro-life. But we all know it doesn't matter what he says, because his loyalists will support him no matter what.

    Trump called Florida’s 6-week abortion ban a ‘terrible mistake.’
    Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article287307905.html#storylink=cpy
    Well before Donald Trump stormed onto the political scene nearly a decade ago, he was far from a staunch opponent of abortion rights. “I’m very pro-choice,” Trump said in a 1999 interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

    “Trump has tried to dance around the issue for years,” said former Republican U.S. Rep. Carlos Curbelo. “He knows there’s a lot of risk for him, and so he’s tried to have it both ways, claiming a major victory with the overturning of Roe and criticizing policies he thinks are too strict.”
    Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article287307905.html#storylink=cpy

    How about the fact that we are producing more oil than ever before in US history? You mentioned energy was important to you.
     
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    Trump is for common sense abortion and unfortunately, the left has won on the abortion issue so him not being in favor of a complete ban should help him in his campaign.
     
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    He is not talking about complete ban, he is attacking Florida for the 6 week restriction. He wants what Democrats want, - abortions. Vast majority of Dems favor 15 week limits and some 20 wk.

    I knew people would support whatever stance Trump happens to have at any given time. If he says he is pro-life (no abortions), then they support that, and when he changes to pro-abortion, then they'll justify that, - like you are doing now.
     
  17. Natty Bumpo

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    Trump's lickspittles seem eager to swallow his shameless lies as he cruelly exploits grieving families.

    The sister of murder victim Ruby Garcia said she and her family were home watching live in disbelief as Trump told a Michigan audience that he had spoken with “some of her family.”
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    “He did not speak with any of us, so it was kind of shocking seeing that he had said that he had spoke with us, and misinforming people on live TV” - Ruby Garcia

    Mavi Garcia, the family spokesperson, said neither Trump nor anybody from his campaign has contacted her or anybody in her immediate family. She said her family is close and she would know if that had happened.

    “It was shocking. I kind of stopped watching it. I’d only seen up to that. After I heard a couple of misinformations he said, I just stopped watching it,” Mavi Garcia said...

    She said she’s angry that Trump and others have turned her sister’s death into something political.

    [https://thehill.com/homenews/4572090-trump-speech-angers-family-of-woman-found-dead-on-highway/]
     
  18. Izzy

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    Great news, Trump caved to state's right to the 6 week ban.

    !!!! Floridians will vote on" Florida Amendment 4 " on the November 2024 ballot, which would enshrine a constitutional right to abortion before fetal viability (around 24 weeks), and after viability when necessary to protect the patient's health as determined by their healthcare provider

    'Donald Trump Supports FL's Six Week Abortion Ban'
    Source: Meidas Touch


    Donald Trump has made his position clear on a new six-week abortion ban in Florida that will soon become law after the Florida Supreme Court upheld the ban. In a new statement from Trump's senior campaign advisor Brian Hughes, the campaign said that:

    "President Trump supports preserving life but has also made clear that he supports states' rights because he supports the voters' right to make decisions for themselves."

    This latest statement from the campaign underscores Donald Trump's position on abortion bans heading into an election where reproductive rights will be at the forefront of voters' minds. Just yesterday, the Florida Supreme Court approved a ballot initiative that could enshrine the right to an abortion in the state's constitution. As we have seen in Republican-led states like Ohio and Kansas, when abortion ballot initiatives are on the ballot, Democrats tend to turnout.

    Given recent history, Trump's comments will not help him in Florida where Democrats are now more energized than ever before to turnout heading into the November election. Expect the Biden campaign to jump on these comments shortly.'

    Read more: https://www.meidastouch.com/news/donald-trump-supports-fls-six-week-abortion-ban
     
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    Not sure where the disconnect it, but Trump does NOT support the 6 wk plan. In the other hand his position seems to change by the day.

    The Florida 6wk ban was a mistake in the sense that it resulted in abortion getting on the ballot, and if it passes, then the limit will be 22 wk, as opposed to the 15wk that it was before DeSantis started meddling with it


    Florida also put weed legalization on the ballot and it requires 60% vote to pass, and that too will draw non-voting Dems and independents to the ballot (to pass weed), and while they are there they'll vote for president too
     
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    It's all good.
    Trump with his supporters continue their backwards march.
     
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    Trump awarded Rush Limbaugh the Medal of Freedom. He has unfinished business. It's time to award the Pillow Guy.:bleh:
     
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    Here's the deal. I am against abortion for personal reasons that have nothing to do with any God or religion. I believe it is callous and irresponsible to the max. But, we have seen how the Dems have seized on that issue and won the day with it. Therefore, we are better off with Trump not being against a total ban. I do not have to agree with 100% of what anyone says just because I want them to be president. It doesn't work like that.
     
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    If I hated democracy, hated trans people, hated women, hated immigration (and, yes, I'm talking about legal immigration), hated having allies, hated Ukraine, thought it was more important to get along with mass-murdering dictators than to get along with the opposing party here, hated education, etc. etc., then Trump and the GOP would have the appeal to me that they once had back when they were willing to include libertarians under their "big tent."
     
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    At least that cokehead didn't build his career mocking the death of AIDs patients.
     
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    I haven't heard any clamoring of the sort from Biden. He has stated that he would like an assault-weapon ban. Based on your comment about "bump stocks', it sounds like that should be OK with you.
     

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