Why would you Oppose a wall on our Border? Lets find out.

All of 'em are abusing the system or only some are? Only some, yes? Our welfare system is also being abused by citizens and there is no effort to shortstop it.

 

Here's why real patriots OPPOSE border walls:



Contrary to the lies of Deranged Donald Dump, the vast majority of drugs do not enter the USA via the southern border but through ports of entry:


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ugs-crossing-southern-border-wall/2591279002/

According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection statistics, 90 percent of heroin seized along the border, 88 percent of cocaine, 87 percent of methamphetamine, and 80 percent of fentanyl in the first 11 months of the 2018 fiscal year was caught trying to be smuggled in at legal crossing points.

While those numbers deal only with drugs that are caught, border experts say the data accurately reflect the way drug cartels successfully smuggle narcotics into the country.


Vice President Mike Pence: Democrats refuse to compromise on border wall funding to end the shutdown

Gil Kerlikowske, who headed CBP and the Office of National Drug Control Policy under President Barack Obama, said intelligence received from arrested smugglers and law enforcement partners in Mexico indicate that cartels clearly prefer moving high-profit narcotics through the busy ports of entry because their chances of success are better there.

He used the example of the San Ysidro Port of Entry in southern California, the busiest port with 100,000 people crossing through each day. Port officials recently completed a multi-year, $750 million upgrade to add more Customs officers and inspection technology, but Kerlikowske said the sheer volume of traffic means smugglers' odds are still better going through there than other parts of the border.

"Regardless of the number of drug dogs and technology and intelligence, the potential of smuggling the drugs in through a port of entry is far greater. Your ability to be captured coming across between a port of entry is much greater," said Kerlikowske, now a professor of practice in criminology and criminal justice at Northeastern University. "It's very clear that (drugs) come through the ports."





Like Hitler, Trump knows that minorities are an easy target as compared to Mafia types who import drugs with impunity. This is why the bigoted hater persists in targeting Mexicans when he knows his bosses in the Russian Mafia and other underworld groups are responsible for the drug mess.

 

When one side resorts to calling the other side racists, you know who's lost the argument. Peddle your crap elsewhere, only retards buy it.

 

It depends.

How could one NOT call out racism when it's clearly derailing important functions of our government and causing hardship for those being targetted?

In other words, it is not a "resort" to call out racism - it is a first order requirement.

 

How many times do I need to post this photo?



How deep do you think they have to bury those slabs so they stay standing in the wind?

 

You still have to prove how much drugs come in through ports of entry like you said. If I ask for proof of an assertion and the poster responds with a dodge I will never respond with proof of mine to that poster till the prove their original assertion, just like everyday life.

 

How many times can you read what's on that wall and not understand America's position on it - through multiple presidencies.

 

How long must the American people spend $2,645,812,000 per year just to provide detainees with a bed not including health care, food and legal fees?

 

Oh? What crime have they committed?

 

No one ever said that it was an easy concept.

Birth right?

 

From horse's mouth so to speak.

The DEA in their annual drug threat assessment reinforces the fact that the the vast majority of illegal drugs come thru the ports of entry. They even highlight how TCOs (transnational criminal organizations) bring the stuff thru.

The assessment describes how each category of drug enters the country.
https://www.dea.gov/sites/default/files/2018-11/DIR-032-18 2018 NDTA final low resolution.pdf

It appears as tho the most cost effective methods of stemming illegal drugs is to improve port of entry scanning technologies and additional cbp officers on duty.

 

Yep, not bad at all! Not perfect, but then what the hell IS perfect in this world!

 

You've moved the goal; post yet again. We want to stem the influx of illegal immigrants. The DHS projects there will be an average of 51,379 people held in immigration detention centers each day in fiscal 2018, a sizable jump from the last few years, which have hovered near the low 30,000s. That's $7,248,800 just for a bed per day. That's not counting health care or legal fees. $7,248,800 X 365 = $2,645,812,000 per year. They are costing us half of what Trump's asking for a wall PER YEAR not including health care and legal fees. when we deport a visa overstay, the only way back in is across the open border. The guy in San Francisco who killed Kate Steinle was deported and came back 5 times, the guy in Nevada or Utah who killed Sheriff's Deputies was deported 8 times and came back. The wall cuts off the route for deportees to return. Then there's the cost of doing nothing.........

 

What is the "real world problem" with immigration as you see it?

 

That's not necessary TODAY!

How long do we have to wait before Trump stops taking children away from parents?

How long do we have to wait before there is a plan for returning all these children to their parents?

 

Ditto for those who make up stuff and don't provide links to back up claims.

 

Why not?

That's STILL happening?

 

To confirm, are you saying that strategical placement not what would happen with Trump's wall?

How do you know what his plan is? Has he released full documentation on the wall which is nothing but blank pages?

 

16 Maps Of Drug Flow Into The United States
Michael B Kelley

Jul. 8, 2012, 10:15 AM
STRATFOR
Despite growing momentum for drug policy reform in Latin America, continual carnage in Mexico and a U.S. government-sponsored study that rips U.S. drug policy, America's 40-year war on drugs is still raging.

This week retired Colombian police Gen. Mauricio Santoyo turned himself in to the DEA on charges that he helped drug gangs and right-wing paramilitaries smuggle cocaine to Mexico and the U.S. while he was the head of security for the president of Colombia.
https://www.businessinsider.com/16-maps-of-drug-flow-into-the-united-states-2012-7

I figured you were intelligent enough to know Mexico isn't the only path to the USA.

 

As for stemming the flow, that has been happening for quite some time now. Are you at all familiar with the CBP budget request and the strategies and programs they employ?

Yes it cost a lot of money to hold and process both illegal immigrants and asylum seekers. And yes, some illegals are criminals, just like some members of your community are, but apparently there are considerably fewer of them per capita.

The "WALL" which is no longer what trump is selling although he wants to call it that to appease the hard liners like Coulter. It is a fence or barrier. Its not concrete. Its not sea to sea. Its symbolic at this point and something that sure as hell doesn't merit holding government workers and their families hostage for.

He had a deal and he renege in the llth hour 59th minute AFTER it had overwhelmingly passed both houses. What a great negotiator. Seems his approach is "damn the casualties - CHARGE" and it ain't working to well over a on going non-crisis issues at the southern border and the entire clustermuck south off it, which of course America must shoulder considerable blame if not responsibility for.

 

Right, so don't build a wall because drugs are made in the US?

 

Which deal is this?

 

You're absolutely sure that this is drug flow via ports of entry?

 

I would suggest that Trump shouldn't claim to be fighting drugs with this fragment of wall.

And, the reason is that it's just plain BS.

And, if he wants to address immigration, he should address immigration - not pretend that another fragment of border is so important that it justifies ignoring the legislative branch of government while holding Americans hostage.

Let's remember that most are not coming by illegally crossing that border. There are OTHER more significant methods.

AND, thee number of undocumented aliens in the US hasn't grown for a DECADE. So, claiming there is a "crisis"is true only in the sense that TRUMPis creating one.

 

a wall won't stop drugs. The DEA and the CBP own reports and plans and analysis actually have facts to back it all up. Hence better detection technology and processes at ports of entry that they are advocating for.

They actually publish a good deal of non classified information on a regular basis including budget assessments and justifications as well as operational reporting.

Its there for those who want to have an evidence based discussion instead of the usual partisan dunning kruger bumpersticker bullshit.