Yep the Congo is a horrible mess. 6 Million in 10 years?? Its horrible. Almost as bad as what Hitler did. Of course I could talk about Stalin, or Mussolini, or Napoleon, or the different Roman Emperors throughout history. Like I stated before, I love my heritage. I am sorry that you feel the need to contantly try to prop yours up to try and convince people that YOU are superior to them because of the color of your skin. I can assure you that there is no humiliation here. You are a Dinosaur with your beliefs. There will come a day when you will be grouped into the same demographic as the people who used to believe the Earth was flat. YOU are the one who is wrong, and that is why I can laugh at your posts. Your FEAR is what drives your hatred. You fear the world around you changing and because its not your white wonderland you fear that you will no longer be dominant on this Earth. I on the other hand will live much longer and much happier. I dont have any hate in my heart. No stress. I live surrounded by different ethnicities and we have NO PROBLEMS!! That is because we live in an ethnically diverse area and so therefore there is no need for tensions. You are a Dinosaur my friend. I hope that someday you can eliminate the hate from your heart. You will find that what you perceive to be "unacceptable behavior" may just be a different culture. Yes maybe it is annoying to hear loud rap music as opposed to the Big Bopper or whatever it is you listen to, but that just means the person likes their music loud lol. But I am pulling for you!! I bet you are a good enough person aside from your fear.
---It is items like I highlighted above that turn you into a caricature of yourself. You have a lot of good points and provide evidence to support your position. For whatever reason you insert messages that do nothing to substantiate your argument but, in fact, disservice your position by drawing attention to bigotry by provoking emotion.
When very young in school, there was an african boy in my class. We had to hold hands for some activity the teacher made the class play, but I did not want to. It was a black hand and I did not want to touch it. After I finally did, it was all oily (black peoples skin has more oil) and disgusting. I immediately went to the sink to wash my hand. There were also some muslim girls in the class. I thought they were just hideous. I did not want to look, but being so young as I was it was difficult to look away. I could not understand at the time why god would make people so ugly, and I felt very sorry for them. Now of course I realise they were from a different race, and that each ethnicity tends to think their own women are the most attractive. Apparently beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. Racism is instinctive.
You are delusional and your posts are filled with stupid. I cannot even talk to naive, delusional people like you, so this is my last post to you. As a person that opposes violence, crime, destruction and depraved behavior, you have tricked your tiny mind into thinking I am scared of it all. I, like many pacifists and nice people, want to live in a clean, healthy, peaceful, civil society... and you attack me for it. Clearly because you are pro-crime, pro-violence, pro-anarchy and pro-depravity. That's fine, but everyone reading this can see exactly the kind of person you are by your bizarre support of evil actions and people. Dictators like Hitler and Mussolini come around once in a lifetime in Europe. Dictators like Mugabe and Charles Taylor come around every month in Africa. Again, you just don't think logically and rationally. Everything I am saying is based on fact. Everything you are saying is based on delusional/speculative little stories you've assumed about me in your mind. Therefore, it's no longer worth debating with you... Fair enough.
How does that account for the military, where a black person may be in a position to save your life, simply because you wear the same colors on your uniform, regardless of the color of your skin?
What about a similar analogy from civil life? There are persons of color in positions where they could save a life, even yours.
So? Those position could easily be filled by White people... and judging by the history of efficiency, White people would be a lot more adept at saving lives than blacks.
You call me delusional and you blame all crime on minorities. You wont debate me anymore because you have ONE sentence that you use over and over to try and back up your racism that is brought on by nothing more than your feelings of fear, and insecurity. You ARE a Dinosaur my friend. The younger generations are all being brought up to believe in equality among all races (as they should). They are not living in FEAR like you. You sir....are a coward. But you are right, all crime comes from blacks. There are no Mexican gangs, Asian gangs, white gangs etc. Al Capone and all those Mafia guys were all black. The IRA were certainly black. Timothy McVeigh was black. Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, the Unabomber, Jack the Ripper, John Wayne Gacy.....ALL BLACK!!!! Financial criminals are all black!! Just like Bernie Madoff!! Only black politicians are corrupt.....Just like Richard Nixon!!! You would feel just great living next to any of these people wouldn't you?? You are a hypocrite and a coward. And again, I am sorry that you have to live in fear. I am now done talking to you. Talk to me again when you are ready to put your big boy pants on and discuss this like an adult.
You may have a point, but how much practice do blacks actually get saving lives when compared to non-blacks?
Racism will never ever disappear. As long as there are thieves and war criminals pretending to be saints, as long as the anti-muslim western propaganda will continue, as long as blacks will continue to behave like animals and then cry that they are discriminated, racism will never disappear.
Im going to respond to this even though I completely disagree with the "animals" statement. I agree with everything else that you said....But it goes both ways. Western Society needs to knock off their fear of Muslims. Middle Easterners need to lose their fear of America and other Western nations. Obviously both sides now have reasons for their fear, but nothing gets resolved until all parties involved lose their greed and their fear and start TALKING. As for Black Americans. Most act just as civilized as you and I and anyone else of any race. To say otherwise is just unfair in my opinion. HOWEVER, there is a segment of that population that likes to continue to blame others and not take accountability for their own lives. In many ways they DO have a point. HOWEVER, at some point you can take responsibility and improve yourself. My upbringing was just as hard or harder than anyone I have ever met, with serious abuse issues taking place from my parents. So I left at a very young age. Sure it wasnt all smooth sailing but I succeeded. No im not rich, but I am a hard working middle class guy that can support his family in San Diego, one of the most beautiful cities on this planet. I have no (adult) criminal record and I try to view life with the glass half full. I consider that a success. I could have allowed myself to keep using drugs as a kid, I could have dropped out of high school, joined gangs etc. Sure I messed around in some of that stuff a bit, but I knew I had to rely on myself and so thats what I did. I think some youth in the black community buy into the hype that there is no light at the end of the tunnel and they think that they have to get into gangs and things of that nature in order to be safe. I think FEAR drives them just as much as anyone else who limits themselves. If you can conquer fear you can do anything. That is my own personal viewpoint. Fear tells you that you cant do 10 years of college to reach your goals. Fear tells you not to ask out the girl you have been wanting to ask out. Fear keeps you from experiencing things that have an element of danger but would otherwise be fun (skydiving, mountain climbing etc) life altering events. You can beat fear. Anyone can do it. Once you have defeated it, once you defeat the fear of failure then the world is yours to mold how you please. I truly believe that bigotry is nothing more than fear. However I also believe that the black community has a lot of fear in it. I dont blame them. I wouldnt have much trust in my heart if I was African American. But for those who overcome that fear, the world is their toybox.
This message is hidden because akc814ilv is on your ignore list. I won't even read your delusional posts anymore, so don't even bother.
Yeah I read it and it is delusional as you said, and you would be doing yourself a favor by keeping him on your ignore list.
Why? Most of what he said was perfectly fine, well, except for the fear part which I disagree with. Zook, you have to admit that you generalize far too much and add things into your posts that make you come off as extremely insensitive.
He is the first person here to have a serious problem with me. At least as far as I know of. I think I struck a nerve by saying that racism is based on fear. He didnt like that I guess. I was trying to have an honest debate about his bigotry and he couldnt handle someone questioning why he would be a bigot.
Zook makes good points, unfortunately instead of focusing his vitriol on the unruly (to put it mildly) section of the black population, he takes it out on all of them and puts in unnecessary inflammatory statements. I think saying that his beliefs are based on fear though, is wrong. He's obviously experienced the worst that the black community has to offer and knows what he's talking about when it comes to that particular segment.
Sure. That is fair. Obviously arrest rates for the black population are higher than any other ethnic group. So that is a debate worth having. My stance on that will be different than yours but still we can have that debate and both can bring up valid points. But to say "This entire population of people are thieves, criminals, and murderers is just taking all intellect out of the debate. I dont care what people think about Barack or Michelle but obviously neither of them are murderers. Colin Powell and Condy Rice are both intelligent people who worked hard in life. There are black professors, doctors, lawyers, scientists etc etc who are all great people who do amazing things. There are MANY black Marines I served with who I trust with my life....and a few I know who gave their life for their country. Heck, there are even many rappers who do good things in their communities. So for him to get mad at me because I said racism was a product of fear is just plain silly. Tell me why I am wrong, dont just repeat the same thing over and over about how blacks are this and that.
In my opinion, the ancient Romans had a good excuse to stereotype the Vandals. We no longer have a good excuse.
Zook just doesn't like it when someone doesn't reciprocate his dislike of blacks or multiculturalism or any combination of the two.
I'm considering taking him off my ignore list and giving him one more chance. But if I see anymore delusional ASSuming about me asa person, I'll have no choice but to re-add him to it. There's one thing I cannot deal with and that's delusional people. It's why I don't debate with black "people" as they're known to be delusional, even the "good" ones. It's not that I'm being nasty to AKC or whatever his name is, it's just going around in circles with a delusional person in a debate is one of my pet peeves. Look, I literally cannot have conversations with delusional people. It is literally like talking to a child or banging your head against a brick wall. It gets you nowhere. And I'm not trying to insult the guy, I'm really not. But his posts are just about the most delusional I have ever read on this site... and that's saying something because I've noticed it's a common theme for anti-racists to be delusional on here. There is no question in my mind that he's delusional. You say you agree that the one thing I'm right about is racism is not fear based. Did you not read the amount of times he called me a coward and said I was fearful? I've heard this delusional claim from a few anti-racists before and it's always the childish teenagers who just don't understand anything to do with reality or racial issues who say it. Now I have a 30-year-old man saying it and I have to wonder if there's any room to grow out of it there. What basis is there to call people you've never met before cowards or fearful based on their preference to live in a peaceful society? Does that mean black racists are also fearful cowards? I'd be careful how you answer that because there are far more black racists than White ones. You cannot reason with delusional. You cannot debate with delusional. So why bother? The last post that got him put on my ignore list was just a joke. It's like he completely ignored everything I said and used the opportunity to say exactly the same things as he has been saying all along. Debating with someone like that is pointless. But everyone deserves a second chance. speedingtime, I actually don't generalize. I've admitted there are some good black "people" although I wouldn't say there's as many good ones as you claim there is. What my actual argument is is that in what is supposed to be a civilized society, I find it unacceptable that the majority of a racial group is bad on some level or another. I find it unacceptable that 13% of the population is committing the majority of our violent crime. And I also strongly believe that America would be a lot better off for the people if blacks weren't here... even the good ones. And they are all valid points.
Punishing the good blacks for the actions of the bad ones isn't what I would call a "valid" point. Its about as valid as saying all white folks are all Hitler worshippers, even though nothing backs that up.
Here you are bit wrong about the muslims. The western society doesn't fear the muslims. We have aggresed them for so long by all the means possible. We picture arabs as terrorist. Grups like Al Quaida and Taliban have been mediatized by the wester society to such a degree that we have generalized the arabs. We invaded their country for no reason at all apart from the privat interests of some groups (if you understand what I mean). We always wanted they riches for ourselves. We impose (or at least try to) what to do. Like for example Iran in the present. Who gave us the right to decide who can posses WMD and who doesn't? I think this is the problem in The States. In Europe there is hate toward them because many simply refuse to integrate in the host countries. They try to impose their own culture. About the black people, I don't know what is the situation in The States. What exactlly causes this feelling of fear? The fear of been bullied? The fear of been rejected? I really don't find this a good reason to get closed in youself, start doing drug, joining gangs or even worse. You will find bullies and arrogant idiots everywhere, and it's not about skin color or religion. We have something very similar in Romania. We have the biggest gypsy community in Europe. They skin is a dark brown so pretty close to black, being native indians. I can tell you something, people here HATE them, including myself. They behave like primitive monkeys. Everything they touch they distroy. They love to live in trash, I mean container aren't even 100 meters away from the appartament blocks and yet those blocks where gypsies live are surrounded by huge piles of trash. Many left since 2007 when we joined EU and went to Italy, France and Spain mostlly. Don't think they went there to work. They when there to steal, beg and even worse. Yet suddenlly all the gypsies from Romanian became Romanians. Now all those people avoid us like devils. Italy even tried once to expulsate all the Romanians although they paid dearlly for that. We hated the gypsies before for their behavior, now we hate them even more. So my opinion is that racism comes from hate that come from various reasons.
