Will racism ever vanish?

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Hastings, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. speedingtime

    speedingtime Banned at Members Request

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    How has the Bell Curve been disproven? Blacks, on average, score lower then all other racial groups on IQ tests. IQ is largely heritable. IQ correlates with many areas of success in life. Now, many blacks are smarter then many whites, but lets not kid ourselves, the fact that many behavioral traits have been proven to be heritable dismisses a large part of the "it's all culture" argument, although culture certainly matters.

    If we just pretend that average differences between the races don't exist, then we're just opening up the path for bigots and demagogues to manipulate them.
     
  2. DarkDaimon

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    Disproven was the wrong word. Discredited is the word I was looking for. See here: http://www.slate.com/articles/briefing/articles/1997/01/the_bell_curve_flattened.html

    Where did you get the idea that IQ is largely heritable? There have been no definitive studies that show that IQ is passed down like blue eyes or curly hair.

    Yes blacks score lower on IQ tests, but that in itself does not prove that blacks as a race are less intelligent than whites. If this was true than one can argue that because they score higher on IQ tests, New Englanders are genetically more intelligent than Southerners. Of course that is ridiculous. Socio-economic factors play a huge part in IQ tests. People with less education score lower on IQ tests, simple as that. Also, people tend to score lower on IQ tests when they think that they will. Finally, IQ tests are culturally biased.

    So your last line should read: If we just pretend that average differences between the races exist, then we're just opening up the path for bigots and demagogues to manipulate them.
     
  3. Zook

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    I'm living in London, England at the moment, but originally from Jacksonville, FL.

    You say I'm afraid, but you're the one saying stupid things about racists. You know nothing about racists or racism judging by the stupidity you're spewing.

    You're regurgitating old, outdated propaganda by claiming most serial killers are White. When I can name far more black serial killers than you can name White. Do you always take the word of the establishment when they try to demonize your own race?

    People like YOU are the real problem. Enabling blacks and turning on your own people is the number one reason why so many innocent people are losing their lives right now to stupid black "gangstas" who are too cowardly to fight man to man with their fists and would rather pull a trigger of a gun just because you won't give them a cigarette.

    I don't care what race or species your wife is. So don't bother wasting your time. I couldn't give less of a (*)(*)(*)(*)... and nor could anyone else. All I'm concerned with is living in a peaceful, civilized society.
     
  4. J0NAH

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    The most hated. I would take that as a compliment given that hatred is a sign of weakness. Goodbye. Next.
     
  5. J0NAH

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    Who distributes and manufactures the guns? Basically that is the only defence we (whitey) have against the more advanced races otherwise we would be obliterated for being the runt of the litter. Let's face it, the only reason you are so defensive is because you have this standing in the litter, surley you are not of real proper white stock, I mean the real white stock not that scandanavian fluffy pink bunny stock, ahhh never mind, blondie.
     
  6. Zook

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    I don't usually respond to trolls, but guns should be used in self-defense situations. Blacks have a long history of misusing guns and murdering innocent victims.

    I never once said I was White, by the way, and I'm certainly not blond.
     
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    Haha, oh you mean they pistol whip instead of using the gun how whitey designed and utilized it which is to blow someones brains out?
     
  8. Zook

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    Yes, statistics on black gun crime certainly back up that ludicrous claim. *yawn*

    Why don't you have a quick read of New Nation News Forum and find out exactly how blacks use guns in our society if you're ignorant on the subject?
     
  9. speedingtime

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    There have been plenty of studies that show that IQ is largely heritable. In fact, it becomes more heritable as you get older. Most studies that claim that Intelligence is not heritable are only measuring the IQ of children.

    It is generally accepted that the variation in intelligence in adults accounted for by genes is around .7/.8:

    http://dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.0963-7214.2004.00295.x
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/0003-066X.51.2.77
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/BF01067188
    http://cdp.sagepub.com/content/13/4/148

    As for the claim of cultural bias, well, wouldn't we expect these tests to be culturally biased for Asians? But that's not what happens-- They score higher then whites. From what I can tell, the "cultural bias idea" just seems to be a popular myth.
     
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    Before the coward came to Africa

    the men were brave

    now they hide and snipe with their finger on the trigger

    in the style of the runt of the litter

    it's wrong but it's a matter of fact

    and on the battle field the blacks kill blacks

    while the whites sit back but one day they will be


    Free.
     
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    hell you can look at DOJ stats to get that info
     
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    You know who wasn't a very big fan of the IQ test?? Just some dummy named Albert Einstein.

    He called it "Seriously Flawed"

    I have an extremely high IQ and I dont take it seriously. Im not bragging by saying that, because again I dont put much stock in it.

    Yes blacks score lower on different tests and different exams and GPA and stuff like that. They are barely a generation removed from Segregation though. They are still more likely to live in poverty, still more likely to deal with police racism, still more likely to have crummy teachers etc etc.

    For all the whites in here criticizing the blacks......Well last time I checked the Asians are scoring better on everything than the "White Nations". So perhaps Whites are inferior to Asians then?????

    Im a white guy, I dont buy that last argument I made, but I dont buy the argument that Blacks are less intelligent either.
     
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    Then you need to meet some... SHEESH!
     
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    Actually when I say most serial killers are white it is a FACT. I know racists aren't very intelligent but im sure you can read?? Right?

    I am not a traitor to my own race. I find ethnic women much more beautiful than white women. That is a preference. I am PROUD of my heritage. And I love the HUMAN RACE, I dont judge based on skin color.

    Luckily for our society, people like you are dying off. The old racist propaganda that you spout is as outdated as im sure the underwear you are wearing.

    Yes I agree that people fighting with guns is a problem. Good thing no American white men would ever do that!! Doc Holliday, Billy the Kid, Jesse James....They must all be black. Those two nerds at Columbine who shot up their school because they were teased a little bit......They were black also right?? LMFAO!!!

    There is no "liberal propaganda". George W Bush had Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice. Many Republicans/Conservatives support Herman Cain. These are hardly Liberals. People of ALL sides of the political spectrum are for equal rights and peace and prosperity with ALL races involved!!!

    And the only reason I brought my wife and kids up is I like to give background on who I am and why I have the viewpoints I have. And on that note, I understand racists very well, my Mom and Dad were very racist. They were so tough they put cigarettes out on me and my sisters skin. Then they would call black people scum. Then they would say that Mexicans were overrunning this great country. All while doing crystal meth out of a lightbulb lol. I've seen the intellect of racists.
     
  15. speedingtime

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    Not all of them are. Many are more intelligent then whites, unfortunately for racists. However, there's no doubt that IQ tests have predictive power as far as success in life goes.
     
  16. J0NAH

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    White people are the least advanced race on the planet, FACT!. Everyone else has been there done it. Even the bible agrees that Esau (whitey) stole the birthrights.
     
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    Is entirely subjective btw.
     
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    I know plenty of them. Do you have any black friends?
     
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    True, but people with high IQs generally get better grades, make more money and have better health, lower rates of obesity, etc. I'd consider that pretty successful.
     
  20. Zook

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    No, it's not a fact actually. I know anti-racist *******s are not very intelligent, but let me dumb it down for you a little so you can understand. In order for it to be a fact, you must count every single serial killer up until november 26th, 2011 and note their race. No one has ever done that.

    So, no, it isn't a fact.

    Most serial killers are black.

    I grew up in black majority neighborhoods. Practically ALL my friends were black. It's one of the reasons I'm a racist today.
     
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    Why do you hate us goyim so much, Jonah? What did we ever do to you?
     
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    Entirely unfounded statement and one which I doubt you could ever hope to prove because at the end of the day, our health is the most important thing.
     
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    You know what Zook...I'm starting to like you already lol...
     
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    So what was it about your friends that made you a racist? Did they tease you a little? A little better at sports than you? Made you feel inadequate when you were in the showers with them after gym class and you were the only one who wore a towel?

    And I would LOVE to see proof that most serial killers are black. It is a fallacy and you know it. Do you know the definition of SERIAL KILLER?? Im not talking drive by shootings, im not talking black on black gang crime or anything like that. Im talking about pre-meditated murders for sport.

    If you want to talk which race is most responsible for blood shed throughout our history as a species....Its EASILY whites. Just look at our history of war. Asians would probably be 2nd.....The two species who score the highest on IQ tests.
     
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    You are really humiliating yourself with these childish posts of yours.

    What was it about my black friends that made me racist? Simple. I am anti-crime, anti-violence, anti-drugs, anti-uncivilized behavior and anti-stupidity. It's as simple as that really. I have standards, morals and I refuse to tolerate the negative things that blacks tend to do in abundance.

    Pre-meditated murders for sport? Like Coral Eugene Watts? You do know who he is, right? The most prolific serial killer in American history. What's his race, you ask? He's black. Just like most serial killers. Practically every serial killer in the last 10 years has been black. Infact, I haven't heard of a White serial killer since the 1980s... although I'm not disputing that there has been some. I can name scores of black serial killers since the 80s.

    I wouldn't be so quick to hate yourself and demonize your own race when you talk about worldwide bloodshed. There's a new civil war breaking out every month in one of the African countries. The Congolese war has killed over 6 million in the past 10 years alone.

    You really have no argument here. Why don't you stop all this silliness and focus on positive things? Self-hatred really isn't working out for you.
     

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