Will Trump Leave When He loses in 2020?

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Will Trump leave when he loses in 2020

Poll closed May 6, 2019.
  1. Yes

    13 vote(s)
    27.1%
  2. No

    1 vote(s)
    2.1%
  3. He won't get to 2020

    8 vote(s)
    16.7%
  4. He'll go to 2024, then leave

    20 vote(s)
    41.7%
  5. He'll go to 2024 and then install Ivanka as Queen

    6 vote(s)
    12.5%
  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this was all motivated by Trump firing the man investigating him... there would be no Mueller if he had not obstructed justice by firing Comey

    either Trump was stupid in firing him.. or he thought the risk of not firing him was higher then the risk of obstructing justice - which is it
     
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  2. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, there would still be an investigation. There's no proof of that accusation.

    He fired Comey because Comey was bad at his job.
     
  3. TOG 6

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    Your mastery of the non-sequitur is astonishing.
     
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    pjohns Well-Known Member

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    For openers, it should probably be noted that the question posed in the OP represents a logical fallacy. It is known as the fallacy of the complex question. (In short, it is really two questions rolled into one; in this case, they are (1) will Donald Trump lose the 2020 presidential election; and (2) if he does, will he refuse to leave office?).

    If he were, indeed, to lose in 2020, I certainly have no reason to suppose that he would not leave gracefully, as all previous presidents have done. (Contrary to the left's imaginings, he is not some sort of wannabe dictator.)
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I'm tired of this kind of crap (and my side said the same about Obama). It seems, since at least GW Bush, the opposition nutcases have murmured something about "do you think this President will really step down when they lose/term limit out of office?" They said it about GW, and about Obama, and of course, now they are saying it about Trump. The answer is of course he will leave, just like the 44 Presidents before him.
     
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    Well, FDR didn't have to leave. The 22nd Amendment was passed because of his actions. Before that, there was no term limitation on President, just an honor system begun by George Washington. Took over 150 years before it was broken.
     
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    What does 2024 have to do with the matter at hand? (Presidents in the US, by law, are prohibited from serving more than two terms. This was a law inspired by FDR's abuse of the presidency--taking it as almost the equivalent of a lifetime appointment.)
     
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    Of course he will leave, and voluntarily (granted he will whine and moan about it, but he will leave on his own power). Also, Presidents don't leave the WH until the new Pres is sworn in.
     
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    As a Republican, I hope that the dems impeach Trump in the House. (no way they will remove him from office, though). It will be a guarantee of a Red wave election in 2020.
     
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    The popular vote is just an artifact of the vote that counts. It's fundamentally meaningless.
     
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    If Warren or Bernie runs against Trump, I will vote for Trump and I didn't last time (I voted 3rd party). Don't count your chickens........
     
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    There isn't even an official popular vote total -- no federal election apparatus tallies and certifies a nationwide popular vote.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Of course the left has moved far left. Look at how they have changed their views on gay marriage, etc., in just the last 10 years. The left went from wanting abortion to be legal, safe and rare, to being allowed to be done up until minutes before birth. Of course the left has moved far left. And, yes, the right has moved in strange directions.
     
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    Of course there would still have been an investigation. That's a ridiculous assumption. Now, maybe it would have taken a month or so more to begin, but it was inevitable.
     
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    What he was saying is that he doubts that Trump will survive to 2020. (also, it wasn't a law, it was a Constitutional amendment (the 22nd)).
     
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    At the very least, Mueller will find that everyone inder trump's command was breaking the law, showing Trump to be an incompetent leader....which will be news to nobody.
     
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    You don't believe that. If you can't be honest on an anonymous message board, when can you be honest?
     
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    Yeah.True.

    But, in Trump's case I would expect him to claim the election was stolen and refuse to cooperate with the peaceful transition of power and use the lame duck session to start WW3.
     
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    You must be the one who thinks he handled the Clinton case with integrity. Sorry she lost bro. Gotta get over that.
     
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    You also expected Hillary to win by a wide margin.
    How'd that prediction work out for you?
     
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    Yes Trump will leave power peacefully. I think Trump will be voted out of office after his first term, but, if he isn't, I think he will leave peacefully after his second term.
     
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    I voted for the most rediculous answer to match the spirit of the question.

    And I only said rediculous because moronic might be too insulting.
     
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    Doubtful that the military would go along with a lame duck declaration of war, unless it was associated with a major attack from a world power (not just a terrorist attack). Again, it's the same crap that the crazy opposition has been saying about Presidents since at least GW Bush. It's crap when dems say it, it's crap when Republican say it.
     
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    Liz Warren has better odds of becoming the Chief of all Native Americans than this claim.

    Can we hold you to this prediction?
     
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    If Trump runs in 2020 and loses, he'll help spread a few conspiracy theories regarding his loss, but that would be the extent of it. No refusing to leave he building, no WW3, just a conspiracy theory to keep his audience as he considers a media career.
     

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