"Win with less votes?? Revolution!!!"

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  1. Borat

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    He did get more votes, the race was on electoral votes and Trump won more of them, he won in an electoral vote landslide.... If you think future races should be on the popular vote - go for it, I will actually support it but the 2016 race was on the electoral vote and Trump won.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think we may have to take Trump's advice.
     
  3. AmericanNationalist

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    By all means, join the dolts in the streets. Law-abiding Americans will try to survive your wreckage.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this could get big.

    REALLY big.

    If Trump starts selecting (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s and idiots for his admnistration, the movement to convince the Electoral College to elect Hillary, could become powerful.

    WE would need the Dems and Hillary to offer some big concessions to the GOP, like seriousaly amending Obamacare, allowing the Keystone Pipeline, suspending climate change EOs, etc.
     
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    You can try. But you will lose lol.
     
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    You can dream.

    They will do it for a few weeks at most. Stop, then start again when he takes office officially for a few weeks. Then it will all pass. Its clock work.
     
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    If you take out the 500,000 - 750,000 illegal votes that the DNC created you have Trump winning the popular vote too......

    We sucked it up in 2012 even though it was obvious as a heck the election was stolen.

    But you Liberals gotta have something to cry -n- fuss about so go on and be the petulant children we all knew you were.





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    Unbelievable ......
     
  8. Borat

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    LOL, the unemployed miners in the Midwest, the armed to their teeth NRA members in the South, the police unions which supported Trump, the immigration officers, border guards, the military that are all staunchly pro-Trump, they all must be shaking in their shoes from fear that New York city government employees like you and a bunch of juvenile college spoiled stupid lunatics may revolt against Trump and try to subvert the American democracy. :D
     
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    So now people want a revolution because they do not like how we have elected presidents beginning right after our founding? LOL Gosh, what would cause someone to suddenly be so concerned about the way our selection system was set up to elect a president? OH wait, if your candidate lost the electoral count, but managed to win the popular vote, which can happen from time to time, suddenly the method we use might need a revolution to change it to popular vote, and we need to do it fast. For if not in time to put Clinton into office, well, trump will still be president. LOL.

    But here is the deal. We were designed as a democratic republic. Not a direct democracy. If you used popular vote, its downside is it would put urban areas always selecting the president. The interests of people in urban areas is different from the interests in rural areas. Over time candidates would only promise to represent urbanites. The non urban areas, which is most of America, would not be represented by their president. That by itself should make popular vote untenable. The downside to electoral colleges is that every now and then the person with the most votes, loses. But the win by popular vote was the effect of urban areas on the outcome.

    Really though, for your own health you should just let this go. To recite a line from an Indiana Jones film, " You lost today kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it". But one probably needs to let it go. Just the chemicals released into the operating system can negatively effect the health, not to mention the mental state. Hillary fans are making themselves sick.
     
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    You really believe that? Honestly? Can I have whatever you are drinking? :roflol:
     
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    Rather than calling for revolution, I think it would be better to simply listen to and certainly don't insult the people you want to vote for you.

    After Trump shockingly won Pennsylvania, we should remember that when Obama talked about “bitter clingers” back in 2008, he was talking about Pennsylvania.

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2016/11/after-trump-shockingly-won-pennsylvania.html
     
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    President Trump. Come to love it :). The sky didn't fall when Reagan(a similar actor type) was elected, right?
     
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    We have the more effective hunting rifles (at least my uncle does, and he hates Trump more than I do, and, yes, I think he has all of them :roll:)
     
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    Why should the votes of people in rural areas count more than the votes of the people in urban areas? The reason that rural areas are rural is that fewer people live there after all and if you want the benefits of that (less people around to bother you) you should be willing to take the disadvantages as well (having less people who share your interests)

    The electoral college was an obscure compromise between royalists and democrats made when we had 13 states. It makes no sense today. Besides, most of its problems could be easily fixed by having all the states determine their electoral votes by voting district rather than winner take all, and changing this doesn't require a Constitutional amendment, as the states determine that, (I think)

    Oh, and "from time to time" is one thing. TWICE IN (*)(*)(*)(*)ING SIXTEEN YEARS is something else. We have had two Republican Presidents in this century. BOTH have gotten less than a majority or even a plurality of the popular vote.

    One fact is clear and should remain so, Trump may be President but his agenda was NOT approved by a majority of the American people, and there should be some way of reflecting this in actuality
     
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    he will NEVER be my President.
     
  18. Seth Bullock

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    Fine. I would have said the same thing about Hillary.

    But you know, and I know, that you would not be saying this about the electoral college if the situation were in reverse.

    In fact, all you Hillary supporters could talk about before the election was how she had the electoral college locked up, no matter what the popular vote was.
     
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    If Trump won the Popular vote but lost the Electoral College, he would be calling for a revolution.

    He did so in 2012.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    May I ask what was so obvious about the 2012 election being "stolen"? And should I get my tinfoil hat out to read it?
     
  21. Steady Pie

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    Hahaha.

    Enjoy Trump's 2, maybe 3 SCOTUS nominees. No more gun control for a few decades.

    Enjoy it. Sit back, relax.
     
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    I will fight, tooth and nail, until he is actually elected President.

    we have 37 days to go.
     
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    I don't care.

    If this were in reverse there wouldn't be a darn thing he could do about it except to claim a moral victory, just like all of you Hillary supporters are doing now.

    Interestingly, both Hillary and Donald had more people vote against them than for them if you add their opponent's votes to the third party votes. So basically, you're advocating for a "revolution" for a candidate who had more people vote against her than those who voted for her.

    I don't care for the Electoral College system in principle. I think it's day has come and gone, and it is no longer relevant in the modern era. But until we change it by a constitutional amendment, it is the law of the land, and it is the system we must accept, win or lose.

    I'm still shaking my head at this election. I thought sure Hillary had it sewed up. I figured it would be close, but I didn't see Trump winning.

    But the truth is, Ron, the electoral college system has been around since the beginning, and both sides knew how to play the game. Your biggest problem wasn't the EC. It was HC, Ron. Bottom line right there.
     
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    Blah blah blah....suck it up....
     

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