Would a Basic Minimum Income dramatically reduce abortions?

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Will a Minimum Basic Income dramatically reduce the incidence of abortions?

  1. Perhaps by 1- 10 percent over the present rate.

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  2. Perhaps by 11 to twenty percent over the present rate.

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  3. Perhaps twenty one to thirty percent over the present rate.

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  4. Perhaps by even more than by thirty percent?

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    It will happen—soon.
     
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    Prove it. You can't of course.
     
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    Think about it:

    "In their recent report 'The Next Tech Revolution: Quantum Computing' McKinsey & Company makes note that quantum computing is currently in its infancy. But it is expected that industries like finance may begin to realize gains from quantum computing by 2025. It is expected that other industries will follow along as it becomes more accessible through the cloud or available on its own.

    Digging deeper into McKinsey & Company’s projections for quantum computing’s arrival, it is more realistic to expect a longer time frame of at least 10 years before it reaches mass adoption. It is estimated that there could be 2,000 to 5,000 quantum computers throughout the world by 2030. However, it could be 2035 before these tools are in place to tackle business issues because of the numerous pieces of hardware and software required. The finance industry is the industry most expected to benefit from the introduction of quantum computing."

    https://www.cryptomathic.com/news-e...g-arrive-and-how-will-it-impact-cybersecurity
     
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    And where is your proof? All you've got so far is speculation.
     
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    Can you answer a question that I have researched without result.

    Is a quantum computer a Turing machine?

    Well, it won't be "we" who organize the society, it will be those who control the computers. They will have no need of us and so will dispose of us.
     
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    No. I don't know that I could explain it. I certainly won't try here.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258656778_Quantum_Computer_on_a_Turing_Machine
    Not the near term, anyway.
     
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    There are small working quantum computers today, basically part of research. So, they do exist.

    I think there are questions concerning how they are used as they grow more powerful - and more expensive, I'm sure.

    But, they show potential for rapidly solving problems that large numbers of years of today's multi-million dollar supercomputers can not solve.

    I wonder how that individual defines viable.

    Would that individual call it viable if we had a few hugely expensive quantum computers that could solve certain problems that we otherwise simply can't solve?
     
  9. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In my opinion DR. LESLYN LEWIS IS FAR MORE ELECTABLE TO THE OFFICE OF PRIME MINISTER OF
    CANADA than any of her rivals in this leadership race......
    she can defeat Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in the next federal election ...... and she can work with the leadership of the Bloc Quebecois to
    rout the Liberals out of the province of Quebec as well.......
    especially once the corruption that has been going on since 1974 is exposed.


    One of the reasons that I began this discussion was to get some critical information over to Dr. Leslyn Lewis' supporters
    regarding an aspect of Canadian history that is not well known.

    Ms. Betty Krawczyk ...

    I believe that a rather massive practical joke has been played on all thirty seven million Canadians....
    in order to set the stage for the same joke to be played on three hundred and thirty million Americans.....
    and the punch line for that joke must be explained NOW IN 2022!

    DR. LESLYN LEWIS IMPRESSES ME AS THE STRAIGHT SHOOTER WHO WILL EXPOSE THIS INFORMATION ONCE SHE FULLY UNDERSTANDS
    WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...better-canada-contest.589554/#post-1072743293
    Best Idea for a Better Canada Contest





    A serious error was made by Canadian Prime Minister Pierre E. Trudeau in 1974 that allowed for a major deception to occur in The United States of America. Once the error is corrected in Canada the same error will be easily understood in how it affected the economy of the United States of America over the last nearly five decades.



    My theory is that the rather brilliant Bank of Canada policy that was in effect from 1938 to 1974 was too intelligent and logical and had to be messed up so that a deception could be pulled on Americans.... but the deception had to be pulled off on all Canadians first!

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    Both of these graphs can be viewed here:
    https://famguardian.org/Publications/InThisAgeOfPlenty/plenty34.htm


    ROBOTICS AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WILL SO ALTER THE ECONOMY OF CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES OVER THE COMING TWO DECADES THAT IT IS NOW TIME TO EXPLAIN THAT CORRUPT POLITICAL LEADERS HAVE BEEN USING AN ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED NATIONAL DEBT TO JUSTIFY CUTBACK AFTER CUTBACK AFTER CUTBACK IN GOVERNMENT SERVICES BUT IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE ISSUE OF ABORTION TO BE ADDRESSED FROM AN OBVIOUS ANGLE THAT SEVERAL OFFICIALS AT "CAMPAIGN LIFE COALITION" ARE GLAD THAT I HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT.


    Would a Basic Minimum Income dramatically reduce abortions?



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    Will a Minimum Basic Income dramatically reduce the incidence of abortions?

    1. Perhaps by 1- 10 percent over the present rate.
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      50.0%

    2. Perhaps by 11 to twenty percent over the present rate.
      0 vote(s)
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    3. Perhaps twenty one to thirty percent over the present rate.
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      12.5%
    4. *
      Perhaps by even more than by thirty percent?
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    How about addressing abortion in this section on abortion?
     
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    So what do you think of this theory?
    I cannot choose any of your options in your poll..... because the most guilty people, in my opinion..... are pretty much at the top...... they tend to believe in the economic philosophy of Malthusian Catastrophe Theory and neo-Malthusian thought..... and they have been using their BigMedia and their bought out political leaders to promote deceiving women into choosing to have an abortion due to the economic pressure that they have put on women...... to make them feel that that is their best option under their set of circumstances?!

    Here are the statistics for deaths among African Americans since 1973:
    Abortion............15.5 million
    Heart disease.....2,715, 416
    Cancer ...............2,568,040
    Accidents ..............447,803
    Violent crimes .......354,392
    AIDS .....................245,322





    I believe that this was set up.......
    and something happened here in Canada back in 1974 that made this trend possible in the USA.





    Here is one of the major reasons why Canadian women feel pressured into having an abortion. They feel that our economic situation leaves them with really no choice other than to take the risk of living in relative poverty along with their child. This situation has been forced on them and we need to be more well informed about this.


    After P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau's colossal error here is how the national debt of
    Canada spiralled out of control:


    Many wealthy people believe that the only way to keep the lower class working
    hard is to keep them head over heels in debt and kind of hungry. Lower class people choosing to have an abortion is a positive thing in the minds of a lot of people who consider themselves to be the ELITE!


    Here is how I explained this back in 2006 when I campaigned for the office of M. L. A. as an independent:

    From 1940 to 1974 the Government of Canada put roughly half of the total money supply into the economy through loans issued through the federally owned Bank of Canada. Provincial and municipal governments could borrow the money to build roads, schools, hospitals and sewage treatment facilities at zero or one percent interest. In 1974 we changed our system and since that time a higher and higher percentage of all government debt is financed through loans issued through privately owned banks. At this time it is ninety eight percent. This policy may be great for our banking sector but it was estimated that in the one year of 1995 alone our federal government could have saved roughly SIXTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in interest payments if we had gone back to creating half the total money supply through these low interest rate loans issued through the bank that is OWNED BY ALL CANADIANS.

    Considering that our deficit was approximately thirty billion dollars for that year, simply by changing back to an already proven monetary and banking system, we could theoretically have had a FEDERAL BUDGET SURPLUS OF THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in 1995.


    The massive cutbacks in the Canadian military, in health care, highway construction, social programs and education were profoundly affected by these accounting practices?

    So what can you and I do about this problem?

    My 2006, 2008, 2016 and 2004 campaign writings as ART.

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    The plan to use economic pressure to increase the probability of women choosing to have an abortion got ramped up here in Canada in 1974.... one year after Roe vs Wade was passed in the United States.

    WE ARE NOT DEALING HERE WITH STUPID PEOPLE WHO CANNOT PREDICT THE BEHAVIOR OF THE MAJORITY OF HUMANS... WITHIN A CERTAIN SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!


    (Ms. Betty Krawczyk ) ....

    "Who should be CRIMALLY punished for having an abortion?"

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...or-having-an-abortion.600962/#post-1073538111
     
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    Is this about reducing abortion?

    Or is it about finding a perp to punish?
     
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    I did not begin that particular discussion...... but I did get back an exceptional comment on this topic. For the record I am not one hundred percent in agreement with this comment... but many good points are made here.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...or-having-an-abortion.600962/#post-1073539225

    Who should be CRIMALLY punished for having an abortion?


    I personally am not really into trying to find a perp to punish because I do believe what near death experiencer Ms. Ariela Solsol Periera was shown about the wishes of the children who were aborted.... but can meet with their mother later on in a near death experience.


     
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    So, you seriously believe that some NDE'er is polling dead fetuses that grew up and formed opinions about their possible lives on a planet they never experienced???
     
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    There is research that indicates that plants have a certain level of emotion. It is called The Secret Life of Plants and you can hear about it on youtube and wikipedia. Yes..... foetuses who have gone on from this four dimensional space time continuum have far greater understanding than the most intelligent human who is still stuck here on the third rock.


    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/
     
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    And, one of your NDE persons is polling them in the afterlife!!

    Cool.

    What was the sampling technique used?
     
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    She was quite young when she had her brush with death and met with the two or three aborted children who she had already aborted years before......
    During her brush with death although she was Roman Catholic she was told by Jesus that she was actually Jewish and that she should move to Israel..... she obeyed and wrote her book while living in Israel.
     
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    So, what percent of these wandering souls of the aborted is three (3)?

    And again, how did the grow up to have opinions, know where they were aborted, etc.?

    I'm sorry, but this is the absolutely NUTTY NDE story I've ever heard. Even if true, it can not POSSIBLY represent what it is claimed to represent.
     
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    I highly recommend buying her book.....
    perhaps the wildest part is how she is raised Roman Catholic....
    but Messiah Yeshua - Jesus tells her that she is Jewish and that she should move to Israel.

    She actually does move to Israel... .which is not the easiest thing in the world to do when you have been raised Roman Catholic.....
    so her making such a dramatic move as to leave New York and go to Israel...... means to me that she personally believed that what she was told
    during her near death experience was true and that she should do what she had been told.

    She has recently gone on into the afterlife permanently...... but her book is still available and it is brilliant!!!!

    My online friend Rabbi Yeshayahu Hollander was involved in her move to Israel......

    I dropped him an e-mail back in 2010......
    What I wrote to him was quite interesting to Ariela.


    Rabbi Hollander did reply.... and it is interesting but my wife could begin the process for her to move to Israel based on her mom's last name.

    https://www.amazon.ca/DIVINE-TRUTHS-REVEALED-Glimpse-Material-ebook/dp/B00H5J94N8
    DIVINE TRUTHS REVEALED: A Glimpse Behind the Veil of the Material World Format Kindle
    de Ariela Solsol Pereira (Author) Format : Format Kindle

    CHAPTER TEN IS ASTONISHING AS WELL.....

     
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    Now that Roe vs Wade has been defeated.....
    the pressure is on for "conservatives" to break out of our ignorance and embrace a different way of looking at economics, productivity and the future of the world economy as robots and A. I. become more and more important.....
     

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