Young boy dies of untreated cancer...

jthorp24 · Jan 18, 2012

Hummingbird said: ↑

Absolutely right! ER's don't refuse sick people b/c of no $ or health coverage...
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They are bound by law not to. Something many liberals tend to overlook.

Makedde · Jan 18, 2012

Hummingbird said: ↑

Usually I agree w/you - but not on this.

They certainly recognized that as the months were going by, he wasn't getting any better and that should have told them that whatever it was wasn't going to go away on it's own he needed to see a dr and take him into the ER.....
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Exactly. If I am sick and the medicine I take hasn't worked after a week or two, I head to the doctor, usually to find I should have gone there earlier!
Its common sense, and anyone with a little child should be extremely concerned when that child has shown no signs of recovery after such a long period of time.

Hummingbird · Jan 18, 2012

jthorp24 said: ↑

They are bound by law not to. Something many liberals tend to overlook.
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Right! And why is that? It's been stated enuf times here that our ER's take care of the sick, even the uninsured - yet the libs here keep harping about the uninsured are dropping like flies b/c they can't get any medical help, which is another stupid lie.......

And there's also free medical/dental clinics all over this country.......

Hummingbird · Jan 18, 2012

Makedde said: ↑

Exactly. If I am sick and the medicine I take hasn't worked after a week or two, I head to the doctor, usually to find I should have gone there earlier!
Its common sense, and anyone with a little child should be extremely concerned when that child has shown no signs of recovery after such a long period of time.
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A lot of yrs ago I had a friend who had 3 kids and her 5 yr old Steven got sick w/a cold, so that's how Carolyn had nursed him - w/cold meds. I don't remember how much time went by, but I think it was about 2 weeks later, he was still stick - she got up one morning and went to check on him and he was dead...... it was walking pneumonia.

When my son was around 2, I found out I was raising a boy who would get strep throat and not be sick w/it....... good thing I obeyed my kids pediatrician when he told me he wanted to see him after he checked my girls and both had strep. I told him he was fine - "He's bouncing all over the house!" "I want to see him tomorrow" - well, it turned out my son had it also, but wasn't sick w/it like his sisters were...... so, after that whenever I took one or both girls in b/c it might be strep throat, he went w/me, altho he had no symptoms and often he had it too. I had never heard of such a thing until I gave birth to one!

Untreated strep throat can lead to rheumatic heart disease......

BleedingHeadKen · Jan 18, 2012

janpor said: ↑

They probably didn't have any healthcare coverage...
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So you believe that parents who lack healthcare coverage are so uncaring and unloving that they will not seek help for their children? Such a misanthrope you are. Forget UHC, the state should just take and raise all children.

waltky · Jan 18, 2012

Disabled girl turned down for transplant...

NJ parents: Disabled girl was denied transplant
18 Jan.`11 The parents of a 3-year-old New Jersey girl say she's being denied a kidney transplant because of her mental disabilities, but experts caution the situation may be much more complex.

The girl's mother, Chrissy Rivera, last week posted a blog entry that described an encounter she claimed happened at The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. She said she was there to discuss treatment for her daughter, Amelia, who was born with Wolf-Hirschhorn syndrome, a rare genetic defect that can cause physical and mental disabilities. Rivera wrote that a doctor, whom she did not name, told her and her husband, Joe Rivera, that Amelia wouldn't be eligible for a transplant because of her quality of life and her mental condition. "I put my hand up. `Stop talking for a minute. Did you just say that Amelia shouldn't have the transplant done because she is mentally retarded. I am confused. Did you really just say that?'" she wrote. "I begin to shake. My whole body trembles and he begins to tell me how she will never be able to get on the waiting list because she is mentally retarded."

Rivera's story was seen by Sunday Stilwell, the mother of two severely autistic boys, and she began an online petition last Friday, demanding that the hospital give a transplant to the girl. By Tuesday night, more than 23,700 people had signed it. "I read Chrissy's original blog post, and I just cried. I couldn't believe it," said Stilwell, whose boys are 6 and 9. "I shared it on Twitter with all my followers and on Facebook."

Children's Hospital said in a statement that it "does not disqualify potential transplant candidates on the basis of intellectual abilities." "We have transplanted many children with a wide range of disabilities, including physical and intellectual disabilities," it said, adding that it is "deeply committed" to providing the best possible medical care for all children, including those with disabilities. The hospital did not comment further, citing patient confidentiality laws.

Stilwell has been in contact with Rivera daily over the events. "There's a lot of camaraderie" between parents of special-needs kids, Stilwell said. "Almost all of us, across the board, have experienced some discrimination. I've certainly had some bad run-ins with some certainly ignorant doctors, but nothing like this. That's part of the reason I did it. I couldn't actually believe this was happening." Messages seeking comment from the Riveras through Facebook and to their home were left Tuesday but were not immediately returned.

The issue the Riveras face is not simple, said Arthur Caplan, director of the University of Pennsylvania Center for Bioethics. For example, the blog notes that Rivera told the hospital that "we plan on donating" the kidney, since they come from a large family. "Most adults can't donate an organ, because it won't fit" a child, Caplan said. "You're starting to say you're going to use another child as a living donor, and that's ethically really trouble." The supply of organs for child transplants is "extremely limited," Caplan added. "So you have hard choices to make," he said. "Dialysis may be a better option."

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Subdermal · Jan 18, 2012

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Yeah right...

Thousands upon thousands of Americans die every year because of "compassionate" Conservative policies and ideas.

That these people even dare to show their faces in public is beyond me.

They are the reason that that poor boy died.
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Murder Rates in the Most Liberal Cities:

1.Detroit, Michigan (445.47, 503.51, 310.04)
2.Gary, Indiana (404.09, 490.36, 202.79
3.Berkeley, California (159.6, 135.67, 215.43)
4.Washington, DC (283.93, 325.02, 188.06)
5.Oakland, California (382.01, 420.48, 292.24)

Murder Rates in the Most Conservative Cities:

1.Provo, Utah (49.9, 43.92, 63.86)
2.Lubbock, Texas (159.19, 153.1, 173.41)
3.Abiline, Texas (163.21, 178.73, 127.01)
4.Hileah, Florida (99.13, 81.3, 140.73)
5.Plano, Texas (53.46, 40.56, 83.54)

Liberal vs Conservative City Crime Rates

Feel free to voice your anger at the liberals whose policies have killed thousands of people.

waltky · Jan 18, 2012

Support pours in for girl denied transplant...

Support pours in for Camden County girl, 3, denied kidney transplant
Wed, Jan. 18, 2012, The family of 3-year-old Amelia Rivera has known since her birth that the brown-eyed girl was headed for kidney trouble.

And sure enough in December, a Children's Hospital of Philadelphia physician said the girl would need a transplant within six months to a year, according to her mother, Chrissy Rivera. For now, however, it won't be happening at Children's. The girls' parents say they were told last week by a different physician at the hospital that she was not a good candidate for a transplant because she was "mentally retarded." Amelia, who goes by the nickname Mia, has Wolf-Hirschhorn syndrome - a rare genetic condition that results in substantial developmental delays and a shortened life expectancy.

Hospital officials say they cannot comment on any individual cases but add that the institution "does not disqualify potential transplant candidates on the basis of intellectual abilities." The case has drawn national attention, including at the website change.org, where a petition urging the hospital to perform the transplant had drawn more than 22,800 signatures by late Tuesday. "It's been extraordinary," Chrissy Rivera said of the support.

Amelia is far from the first disabled person who has had difficulty getting an organ transplant. People with Down syndrome, for example, are often steered away from heart transplants, on the theory that they may have difficulty following the complex postsurgery drug regimen. Hospitals also commonly take into account other factors in deciding against a transplant, such as advanced age.

Yet denial of a transplant purely on the basis of a disability would violate the Americans With Disabilities Act, said Lara Schwartz, vice president of external affairs at the American Association of People With Disabilities. "Such a case has never been challenged under the ADA, but I think it might make a very strong case," said Michele Goodwin, a University of Minnesota law and medicine professor who researches organ transplants.

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/health...transplant.html?cmpid=124488469#ixzz1jrx2SM1l
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dudeman · Jan 18, 2012

Give all of your money to an omnipotent "doctor" or you are are bad parent. A media-sensationalized version of reality.

Makedde · Jan 18, 2012

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Support pours in for girl denied transplant...

Support pours in for Camden County girl, 3, denied kidney transplant
Wed, Jan. 18, 2012, The family of 3-year-old Amelia Rivera has known since her birth that the brown-eyed girl was headed for kidney trouble.
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I imagine there is more to it than that. No hospital would deny a child medical treatment just because she was disabled.

Jarlaxle · Jan 19, 2012

From what I have heard, she has other problems (that the hospital CANNOT disclose) that make her a poor candidate for a transplant.

Makedde · Jan 19, 2012

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From what I have heard, she has other problems (that the hospital CANNOT disclose) that make her a poor candidate for a transplant.
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That would be a fair excuse to deny her a transplant. No one is given a transplant if they are not strong enough to survive the surgery.

waltky · Feb 1, 2012

Amelia's transplant still up in the air...

Parents, hospital meet about transplant for Amelia Rivera
Jan 31, 2012 - The parents of Amelia Rivera -- a disabled three-old girl whose cause has been taken up by thousands of online supporters -- have met again with a Philadelphia hospital about arranging a kidney transplant for her. But they still don't know if she will get it.

Earlier this month, Chrissy Rivera of Stratford, N.J., wrote an emotional blog post describing a meeting at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia in which she says a doctor and social worker declared Amelia ineligible for a transplant because she is "mentally retarded." The post inspired more than 37,000 people to sign an online petition demanding the hospital reconsider. Hundreds expressed outrage at the hospital's Facebook page and dozens wrote supportive blog posts. On Monday, Rivera confirmed in an e-mail that she and her husband Joe have now had several additional phone conferences and meetings with hospital staffers, including one on Friday in which they were "given an hour-long presentation on what is involved in a kidney transplant."

She says: "At the end of this meeting, we were not told whether or not Amelia will be eligible, but we were given the required forms and steps we need to take to proceed with the transplant." Hospital officials have not commented on any details, because of patient privacy rules. But the hospital has said that it does not deny transplants on the basis of mental disability and has performed them on children with all sorts of conditions.

Amelia has a genetic disorder called Wolf-Hirschhorn syndrome. It causes intellectual delays, seizures and other health problems -- and in her case has led to a kidney condition that could kill her in six months to a year, her parents say. They say they hope to find a family member or other living volunteer to donate the organ. Transplant centers do routinely consider medical conditions and other factors that might make potential recipients poor candidates -- both because of the scarcity of donated organs and the often-difficult medical care needed after a transplant. The decisions are complex and must be made on a case-by-case basis, medical ethicists say. Denying a transplant on the basis of mental disability alone is illegal.

In an interview with the Philadelphia Inquirer, Chrissy Rivera said that "if there's a medical reason" that a transplant would be a bad idea, "of course we're not going to do it." Meanwhile, the controversy has brought attention to a little-known disorder: The wolfhirschhorn.org website where Rivera's story was posted has been viewed more than 387,000 times in less than three weeks, up from about 165 times a day, says the site's administrator, Kevin O'Brien of Elgin, Ill., father of another child with the syndrome. That should raise understanding of the disorder, he says, while also "focusing attention on the bigger issue of transplant rights for the disabled."

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Black Monarch · Feb 3, 2012

janpor said: ↑

We all know that the American healthcare system kills,...

UHC is the only solution.
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So the kid could have died on a waiting list instead? I don't think so. Health insurance just isn't that expensive, especially if it's the kind that only covers truly catastrophic expenses and not regular checkups and stuff. I have to wonder what useless bullsh!t the parents were spending money on instead of insurance.

You're right that the American system sucks, though.

janpor said: ↑

Yeah right...

Thousands upon thousands of Americans die every year because of "compassionate" Conservative policies and ideas.

That these people even dare to show their faces in public is beyond me.

They are the reason that that poor boy died.
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Uh huh. The idiot negligent parents are totally not to blame.

BTW, "compassionate conservatism", more commonly known as Neoconservatism, is the branch of conservatism that actually embraces entitlement spending. Nixon advocated UHC if I remember correctly.

Makedde · Feb 3, 2012

Thanks for the update, Waltky.

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