Zero Evidence that 9/11 Was an Inside Job

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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    yep yep and yep.
     
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    Well, they were in the building. And it's difficult to attribute the damage in the basement before the collapse (as shown in the first video below) to anything other than an explosion. The lobby damage doesn't match the official story (jet fuel in the elevator shafts) as there is no evidence of any sort of fire damage in the lobby (brought up at the 9 minute mark in the second video below).

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhGcBxONSvc&feature=player_embedded"]9/11 Absolute Evidence Of Massive Explosions in Basement of WTC Long Before Collapse MUST SEE!!!!!! - YouTube[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfqOLdcFeDg&feature=player_embedded"]Expose 9/11 Myths - Trailer - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    Sure, the existence of a website proves nothing in itself. It's the content that has to be looked at.

    The list of websites I posted is all of different professional groups, not random conspiracy theorists. When you have that many disparate professionals, not to mention the 9/11 Commission itself being critical, at some point you have to acknowledge that there just might be something to it.
     
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    The OCTAS are exactly that,graduates of fox news.could not have said it better msyself.lol.they only care what fox news and their corrupt institutions and presidents tell them,they could care less what expert pilots ,architects and engineers or retired high ranking military people say. just what fox news said since thats who they are graduates from.lol.
     
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    another thing the OCTA'S cant get around is witnesses said they heard and felt explosions in the basement and many were thrown upwards off the floor from them and they took a co worker to the hospital who has severe burns coming out of the elevaters yelling-explosions, explosions.He was seen being taken out of the basement by coworkers to the hospital about 5 to ten minutes later after the plane struck the towers,yep no explosives planted.:grin:
     
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    what cracks me up about the OCTA'S logic is they say you tube videos have no credibility even though many show credible experts testimony experienced in explosives like foreman talking about the explosions.thats why they wont wacth them and try unsuccessully to redicule them EVERY TIME.ever notice that? hee hee.:grin: only what Bush and Cheney say is credible to them.lol.
     
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    I'm not questioning the assertions that there were explosions. If the firefighters on the video say they heard explosions, I certainly believe they heard explosions. If other witnesses said they heard explosions, I believe them as well.

    But hearing explosions is proof of nothing more than hearing explosions. It is not proof of bombs or controlled demolition.
     
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    I assume you meant fireman. Why would experience in explosives be a requirement of being a fireman? And does being a fireman give one the ability to conclusively identify the sound of an explosion caused by a bomb versus the sound of an explosion caused by an electrical transformer?

    Most of their quotes were taken out of context for the convenience of the truthers anyway.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/18/2hBDXB6cifo
     
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    What chance a Government investigation by the US government on the CIA ,being impartial ?

    faith thunkin' again,did we find WMD's in Iraq?

    Was the War in Afghanistan about Getting OBL?

    Notice the present method of the US Government ,oh its not just foreign policy .

    Everytime the Government opens its mouth think LIES upon LIES.Its a closer method of Truth thinking.

    eg;'its a 2 double dip Recession with cherry of Austerity on top for Capitialist welfare"not a economic DEPRESSION with Depression Austerity for the Working Class on top.

    Yes young Dorothy 'Our" Governments ALL lie to us the People.
     
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    the burden of evidence is with the Government particularly when they have supplied not a nanosecond of evidence in the form of video ,concerning the alledged Assassination of OBL,could you give link to produced evidence.?

    Evidence you say ,well I say WMD's in Iraq !

    enough said.
     
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    Well, there's the damage that has to be taken into account along with reports of explosions. The damage in the lobby shows no evidence of a fire(ball), which was the official explanation. The damage in the basement is what it is. One can make what they want of it. It can't simply be ignored, though.

    Just a comment to something you mentioned in a post to someone else:

    While a fireman may not be trained in explosives and therefore not an expert, it's quite a stretch to suggest it could have been an electrical transformer. I've heard quite a few of them blow and they are not bomb-like in any way. I would assume that most firemen have heard these as well. Not to say it couldn't have been something else, but it being a transformer is not likely. To go by what some theorists say (controlled demo), these explosions could have been part of that. They're not 'bombs', but are explosives.

    The bottom line is that we could sit here forever and not get anywhere. There are enough holes in the official version, however, to see that if there ever was a case that need to be thoroughly investigated, this one is it.
     
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    Yes it is the form of Faith thunkin' called Blind faith in Government.
     
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    What does the assassination of OBL have to do with the lack of proof that 9/11 was an inside job?

    And when you have a bunch of people saying "I don't know what happened but I KNOW it didn't happen the way the government said it did." then the burden of proof is NOT on the government at that point.

    Why would igniting jet fuel in an elevator shaft have to cause fire damage in the lobby? Wouldn't the pressure waves from the explosion be enough to cause damage?

    There is no evidence to support the controlled demo theory. Why were no detanators, or det cord found? How did the building get prepped for demo with no one noticing?

    I think it being a transformer is HIGHLY likely since there would have been numerous transformers in an office building of that size. And with the fire sprinklers raining water down on everything, why would electrical transformer explosions be unlikely?

    Agreed.
     
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    No, it is the form of there appears to be an incredible lack of evidence and proof to the theories that contradict the government's accounts.
     
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    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

    Conspiracy theorests are not offering proof. Much less extraordinary proof.

    I would appreciate if whenever they mention an "expert" who disagrees with the 9-11 Commission that they would identify them and their credentials.
     
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    Agreed.

    And also how their credentials make them experts on the subject they are addressing.

    David Ray Griffin is a retired American professor of philosophy of religion and theology. That makes him an expert on the events of 9/11 exactly how I'm not sure, but he certainly is cited a lot.
     
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    Just like there is zero evidence that anyone one else, except Lee Harvey Oswald, was involved in the JFK assassination.

    And there is zero evidence that Oliver North had anything to do with Iran Contra.

    There is also, zero evidence that Richard Nixon was involved with Cuban CIA operatives in that "whole Bay of Pigs thing". It must have been someone dubing in Nixons voice on the tapes, and the Watergate break in had nothing at all to do with JFK assassination.

    The CIA has nothing at all to do, what so ever, with assassinations that happen around the world., or interrogations using torture. Likewise, Israeli Mossad, is a peaceful information seeking organization.

    2+2=5 Repeat

    Now, what is 2+2= ? The answer is 5 yes? WRONG.

    2+2=3 Now Repeat. You cannot have your pudding, until you eat your meat. How can you have your pudding if you do not eat your meat?

    All in all, its just another Brick in the Wall.
     
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    In order.

    There is ZERO evidence that anyone aside from Lee Harvey Oswald fired on JFK.

    Oliver North has admitted his involvement in Iran Contra.

    Complete BS about Nixon.

    Name one leader or national figure assassinated by the CIA please.
     
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    Keep drinking the coolaid. CIA is recruiting and looking for people like you.

    They pay well I hear.(although once you join, you can never leave). If you are already working for them, GOOD for YOU!

    Perhaps, when NDAA 2012 starts to be enforced upon US citizens, you can retrieve some PF posts to submit evidence of your appreciation for the CIA, and plead to become an informant on your fellow US citizens.

    There is a MOUNTAIN of evidence that contradicts the Warren Commissions conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin, and there was no conspiracy. The HSCA, despite its own efforts to suppress and distort information, HAD to admit conspiracy could not be ruled out.

    The "evidence" the Warren Commission submitted, cannot be accepted as reliable because of chain of custody errors, and outright manipulation of the crime scene itself.

    You can bet that 911 is connected with JFK assassination. And the connection is........

    CIA
     
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    The government isn't particularly good at holding itself accountable.
     
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    you've been watching the X-Files for too long............

    There is not an intelligence/covert agency in the world that could pull off what you've claimed and keep it secret.
     
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    How silly of me. I didn't realize that incompetence of government employees was subject to trials conducted by US military. I was under the impression that the purpose of a court martial was to try members of the U.S. military for violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    Where to you guys get this stuff? :rolleyes:
     
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    No because the more unaccountable they are the more broken they are and the more needy they are which, of course, requires more and more of The People's money in the form of taxes.
     
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    Basically. We could design government to be more accountable, but unfortunately, we haven't been very successful with that so far.

    There are aspects to the government that actually do work well, like the FAA, but unfortunately, they seem to be more the exception to the rule.
     
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    Oh, is it unimportant where you were when a crime was committed? Why is that the first thing a cop asks you?

    So, if the head of the 9/11 Commission is a "jew", everybody in all the major gatekeeping positions were "jews", and the aftermath of 9/11 benefits primarily "jews", Americans should see nothing amiss?

    Soldiers, how about when the "jews" murdered 40 of our AMERICAN sailors when they attacked the USS Liberty then blamed it on Muslims to drag us into the Six Day War? Let's hear your excuse for that.

    It's time to decide if you're REALLY an American Patriot OR NOT! If you are, you need to know who your friends are.
     
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