Hungary will not take part in the Cold War against Russia

The US government is trying to destabilize yet another country in Russia's region. Their strategy is to go after certain Russian-friendly Hungarian politicians for "corruption", but the US government going after Hungarian politicians for corruption is like a whore lecturing a nun on the virtue of chastity. In other words, it's astoundingly hypocritical and dissonant. If anyone should be investigated for corruption, it's the politicians in Washington DC. President Obama has yet to answer for his illegal assassination of an American citizen, the sixteen year old Abdulrahman Al Awlaki, or his illegal war in Libya, or his illegal mass spying program, yet he is going to crusade against corruption halfway around the world in Hungary? How grotesque.

 

Obama and his administration are also friends of some of the biggest criminal oligarchs in Ukraine such as Kolomoisky as well as Russian ones such as Khodorovsky, so anything he says has to be viewed from whence it comes.

There is an area in Ukraine that is Hungarian speaking and would like to be liberated from Kiev. I'm not sure, but I wonder if they are under threat as well by the Nazis, which would account for Hungary's stance against the sanctions. Frankly I think the E.U. is going to break up.

 

The U.S political and corporate elite will not be satisfied until every nation on earth bends the knee and is manipulated to serve U.S national interest at any cost to their own sovereignty and people.

Unions, like the European Union, alliances like NATO and organisations like the U.N will continue to lubricate the way for a U.S led foreign policy that aims to achieve what I've mentioned above.

Facts, elephants in the room such as illegal, aggressive, murderous military engagements will be lost upon those whom look for any opportunity to excuse U.S/NATO/Western action. As long as these people, apologists exist, our governments will continue to get away with it, as long as our governments continue to get away with operating outside of the law, they themselves have set the standard for other nations to behave similarly, and therefore as a consequence have acted to utterly undermine the foundations of international law, its integrity and legitimacy, and as a further consequence have potentially undermined the stability of the world, and have increased the chances of another major global conflict igniting in our time.

 

This is true. Truth is the best and least expensive form of propaganda. I think entire EU will break down as a result of this cold war.

 

Isn't it a shame, that there are swathes of our fellow Western citizens whom unquestionably support the U.S/NATO/Corporate agenda, whom accuse people like ourselves of being traitors or puppets of foreign states, when we only speak to deplore actions that can threaten the future of humanity itself, when it's the critics themselves whom support an agenda that leads to warfare, bloodshed and puts our own people and their own families at risk.

Was it not the U.S presence in Saudi-Arabia which led Osama Bin Laden to conspire to attack the U.S in the first place? Was it not U.S training and arming of the Taliban that led to the Taliban overrunning Afghanistan in the 90's that led to the war against them in this century? Was it not U.S meddling in Ukraine that led to the overthrow of a democratically elected government and forced Russia to threaten nuclear retaliation? How can this be so difficult to digest and understand for so many? It's clear that common sense is not common at all.

 

Hungary stopped trusting the west in 1938, and they should stay that way

 

If Hungary will survive it should better completely leave EU, otherwise it is too small, to poor and to honest to withstand pressings of Washington and Bruxelles.

 

US government represents only thieves, banksters and satanists, not American people, it is highly amoral organization.

 

Nice Orwellian manipulation of language there.

 

http://defence.pk/threads/u-s-war-against-russia-is-now-against-hungary-too.350613/

When more than two-thirds of the United States public are against the U.S. Government’s selling arms to the Ukrainian Government, but 98% of the U.S. House of Representatives wants not only to sell them to Ukraine but to donate them to Ukraine, with U.S. taxpayers paying the tab for this largesse, and when 100% of the U.S. Senate then goes along with that, and the U.S. President signs it into law, how fake is American ‘democracy’?

 

Our democracies are merely consented corporate dictatorship. The illusion of people power keeps the people content. The illusion of choice keeps us regressed. The regression of political and social mobility provides stability for the shadow puppeteers pulling the strings of our political establishment.

 

I don't know how the EU can survive. I sensed a break up a few years ago, even before the sanctions against Russia. What is Washington planning to do when the countries rebel against US leadership, take over all of Europe the way they did Ukraine?

 

Cut it out. You know the US is the biggest bully in the world. Washington threatens a regime change towards any president that doesn't go along with its demands.

 

you must like it!!

 

YES! Only WE CAN have puppets. Only the Unique States of America is allowed to have puppets, bomb another countries, torture prisoners, spread democracy (I believe that we know about democracy more that greeks). You know why?
In God We Trust

 

http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/12/29/2171

That is the takeaway from an interview with Janos Lazar - right hand of Hungary Prime Minister

"...the American wire tapping and spying scandals of the past few years have made it clear that our allies do not respect their partners"

"Hungary is not for sale. Neither for the Russians nor for the Americans."

"The demonstrations are as though the American embassy had assumed the role of the Hungarian political opposition."

"They want to tell us how to behave, what to think about the world. And they tell us how we should live."

"Americans should respect Hungary’s thousand-year history, traditions, which cannot be changed through the use of outside force, pressure."

Tamas Pindroch (Magyar Hirlap) 1 hour ago | 307 1

This is rather incredible. The statements themselves are all pretty common sense, even somewhat tame.

But fact is governments of Central European states simply do not talk about the US in this way. Not even close.

That's why this interview was given by Lazar rather than PM Orban – for fear of antagonizing the US further.

But it's clear Lazar is expressing what the entire government thinks. The pro-American translator of the interview notes as much.

It's clear Hungary government does not see itself as particularly pro-Russian, merely conservative, patriotic Hungarian.

But it's also clear it feels it is the US, not Russia, which has a problem with that orientation.

We don't think Hungary government is crazy brave. It never deliberately set out to challenge the US.

And it's deeply uneasy about the fact it is now in Washington's bad graces.

But now that it has fallen into disfavor there is nothing left but to make a stand – and it's making it.

Janos Lazar is the Minister of Prime Minister's Office.

Magyar Hirlap (Hungarian Gazette) is a Hungarian right-of-center daily.

This is an excerpt from an article that originally appeared in Magyar Hirlap. It was translated by Richard Field at The Budapest Beacon

How do you assess the work of the Information Authority (IH), more commonly known as the Hungarian foreign intelligence?

[...]

Unfortunately, the American wire tapping and spying scandals of the past few years have made it clear that our allies do not respect their partners, and that there are no inhibitions or limits.

The WikiLeaks documents indicate that America also collects information about the personal lives of leading politicians in our country as well.

What stands behind the attempt to exert influence over Hungary?

America’s interests are not the same as Hungary’s.

The United States does not take into consideration the traditions of the region, the country’s traditions. Unfortunately, they don’t want to understand Central European history and national characteristics.

Naturally, there exist influential United States interest groups as well with which we do not agree on matters of fundamental questions of values.

This world violently, and with money, spreads its convictions such as disregard for the fact that, irrespective of their political proclivities, two-thirds of Hungarians understand a family to refer to the relationship between a man and a woman, and give them the right to raise children.

What is the stronger viewpoint for the Americans, exercising pressure for political or economic interests?

Both. In the future America will change from being an importer to being an exporter of gas thanks to the mining of shale gas, for which it must create a market.

We can discuss this, but I am certain that the use of power politics is not a suitable method for securing markets.

Our point of view is unequivocal: Hungary is not for sale. Neither for the Russians nor for the Americans.

We will purchase energy from whoever sells it cheaply and guarantees that it arrives to use as well.

However, we are a small market. It is not sure that this is the only reason we became an important terrain to the United States.

Unfortunately, there is no economic growth in the European Union, and for this reason the region of Central Europe has become more valuable. Our area has economic potential, from here it is possible to strengthen the western part of the continent as well.

A warlike situation has developed between the United States and Russia, and the Americans want to create a new iron curtain on Russia’s border.

We are starting from the basic thesis formulated by German chancellor Helmut Kohl and French president Francois Mitterrand: Europe needs the Russians.

The war and Russia’s economic collapse has unforeseeable consequences for Europe and Hungary. We are going to pay a high price for it.

In the midst of the Russian-Ukrainian crisis we should not forget either that more than 100,000 Hungarians are living in Karpátalja (Carpatho-Ukraine), a substantial number of which are Hungarian citizens as well. The most important thing for the government is to protect them as well.

Do you also believe that the Americans are behind the Autumn demonstrations?

The demonstrations are proof that the right to the freedom of expression exists in Hungary.

The demonstrations are as though the American embassy had assumed the role of the Hungarian political opposition. It might appear to some as though they gave up on the opposition parties ever winning the confidence of the Hungarians, and for this reason they have risen to the task of leading the dissatisfied.

They express opinions on matters not customary for diplomats. They want to tell us how to behave, what to think about the world. And they tell us how we should live.

The credibility of the United States has been called into question by the fact that the American spokesman André Goodfriend is either unable or unwilling to tell public opinion why six Hungarian citizens were banned from entering the United States.

Americans should respect Hungary’s thousand-year history, traditions, which cannot be changed through the use of outside force, pressure.

Hungarians do not want to be Americans, Germans or Russians.

We want to remain Hungarians!

 

The whole farce that occurred in Ukraine, is designed to break Europe through the knee. This is the policy of the United States. The sanctions are very harmful for Russia. but they also have a negative impact on Europe. Those countries that against the policy of Washington will be "crushed like maggots under the nail". It should be understood in Europe. The EU has championed the country twice in a row sparked world war. In my opinion this idiocy. On the US money to develop one final world war. Hold on Hungary, feet American policy to reach for your throat. The rights of Europeans already mean nothing. if the Europeans do not have the right to free movement within the EU. An Italian journalist was kept in the bullpen for the Pro-Russian mood, and nothing in Europe is asleep and protests are not heard. Double standards, such double.: Двойной:

 

Allies democrats?
Which put thieves in prime ministers (look at Italy). The official steals in democratic society - welcome on a presidential chair (look at France). The official again steals, please became a presidents (look at Georgia, Saakashvili)
Democrats organize military interventions (look at Philippines, Cuba, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada), make the fascist modes (look at Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Colombia), sponsors and supports military coups (look at Guatemala, Bolivia, Congo), dictates to your country the terms favorable only to her (democracy), and destroys by that economy of your country (look at Chile, Rwanda, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Argentina, Mexico).

you can change it...
[video=youtube_share;GeStYiOlCGo]http://youtu.be/GeStYiOlCGo[/video]

 

please come back when you are sober,

Which put thieves in prime ministers (look at Italy). The official steals in democratic society - welcome on a presidential chair (look at France). The official again steals, please became a presidents (look at Georgia, Saakashvili)
Democrats organize military interventions (look at Philippines, Cuba, Nicaragua, Panama, Grenada), make the fascist modes (look at Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Colombia), sponsors and supports military coups (look at Guatemala, Bolivia, Congo), dictates to your country the terms favorable only to her (democracy), and destroys by that economy of your country (look at Chile, Rwanda, Somalia, Yugoslavia, Argentina, Mexico).

you can change it...
[video=youtube_share;GeStYiOlCGo]http://youtu.be/GeStYiOlCGo[/video][/QUOTE]

 

All of you can check it you self . Start with Saakashvili for example https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Саакашвили,_Михаил_Николозович Your allies which you call Democrats - crime.
On August 13 2014 Saakashvili are brought charge of waste of budgetary funds September [143] Property of a family of M. Saakashvili of the country was is seized. Also its personal bank accounts in Georgia were arrested.

 

And then the sheep are astonished and outraged when people fly aeroplanes into tall buildings, because they're either too stupid or wilfully ignorant to understand that actions have consequences.

 

And the disgusting fascist payed Russian troll army is in full effect in this echo chamber of a thread. You people are a joke. Putin is a fascist war criminal, he has illegally invaded and annexed the territory of his neighbor and perpetrated ethnic cleansing and mass murder therein not once but twice, once in Georgia and now in the Ukraine. The sanctions will continue, the bread lines are coming, your economy is going down the (*)(*)(*)(*)hole >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<<<

 

Would Hungary be a new Ukraine in future???

 

Strange. You'd imagine in our "free world", it would easily be possible for people to believe in and adopt other world views, but no, anyone who holds an opinion different to the espoused mainstream drivel MUST BE A TROLL. Flawed logic from a person pertaining a flawed world view.

 

http://inserbia.info/today/2014/12/czech-nato-veteran-ashamed-of-medals-wants-to-return-them/

I suppose this man is also payed Russian troll???