70% Favor Voter ID Laws.

It's like Obamacare. The liberals know what's best for you and they don't care what you want. And, for liberals, crooked elections are what are best.

 

In every one of those billion votes a person gave a name and an address, in some cases thousands of votes were examined by law enforcement and traced back to people, no fraud uncovered save for 31 cases.

And there is data that indicates that even without any ID requirement, one of thirty attempts will be discovered.
So the evidence is staked up pretty high, for rational people anyway...

 

When it can be demonstrated that 70% of 300 Million citizens of the USA favor more restrictive and less inclusive, voter registration laws, then it will be time for the other 30% to get out of the country, before the trains start rolling and the camps are set up for repatriotization and deportation.

 

Fascinating. Minorities can't get ID's? I didn't know that. I know that in California, if you don't have any ID. you really can't do much of anything. Mostly, you can't cash your paycheck. But I suppose those minorities that can't get ID for some God knows what reason could get one of those pre-paid debit cards and just send their paycheck off to the company issuing the card..I suppose that that would work. But it would be a hassle. I'd guess that it would be easier to get a state ID card. Wonder why those ID-less minorities don't do that?

 

It's got to do with statistics, it's math and science.
The number of minority voters that don't have the ID required is greater than the number of the core Republican demographic that doesn't have the required ID, making it a requirement would cause many of those without ID to acquire it, but, there will be a number who can't, because of the cost. In the end, it costs the Democrats more votes, than it costs the Republicans, by preventing American citizens from voting.

 

What I want is an IQ test for voting eligability then I can rule the country.

 

So what? That's simple enough to do if I know the person is dead.

The claim was not in some cases and just thousands of votes the claim is out of BILLIONS.

Good but that leaves 29 other that weren't.

So give me a rational reason to not have this common sense measure in place, one which even the UN observers were shocked that we did not.

 

The State of Georgia has had Voter ID since 2006. It has been in effect for two Presidential elections. The minority voter participation rate increased, not decreased. That really dissuades that disenfranchised voter theory in my book. What some are trying hard to convince us, is that a certain segment of our population isn't smart enough to obtain a free Voter ID. I'm not buying it. Georgia issues a free Voter ID to anyone that requests one. They are issued at all DDS (think DMV) locations Tue-Sat or at any of the 159 County Registrar's office on Mon-Fri. Which ironically are the two places where you can register to vote.

In addition, if you still can't manage that, you can vote absentee. Since the ballot is mailed to your home address, you don't need any ID to do that. Someone please tell me why Voter ID can't work across this great nation? Do you want your vote canceled out by someone who isn't eligible to vote or who has cast multiple ballots? We require government issued ID to enter a federal building, check into a hotel, cash a check, get admitted to a hospital, buy alcohol but we don't require it to vote. We must not think voting is that important.

 

We've had it hear in Alabama for several election cycles and even my dear blind mother may she rest in peace had an photo ID and and was proud to present it.

 

Because it's not needed, and spending time and money on something that serves no useful purpose is irrational.
The only rational reason is to suppress minority voting, that is something the Voter ID laws would do, it's rational on the part of Republicans to want to suppress minority voting, it's still despicable, but it's rational....

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Gosh, I can't think of any reason that minority participation in the presidential elections of 2008 and 2012 would increase, can you?

 

Solution: issue a new photo ID entitlement card. That way even the poor will have ID.

You know when you register to vote? Get people to sign up for photo ID then.

 

Speeding up the voting process is not a useful purpose?
Avoiding clerical errors is not a useful purpose?
Helping insure the integrity of the election especially on smaller close elections doesn't serve a useful purpose?

Give me your rational reason to oppose having those purposes

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It certainly wasn't surpressed was it?

 

Because like voter fraud, none of those reasons are real.
Why don't you want minorities to vote?]

How would you know that?
All we know is that the effect of a black presidential candidate increases minority turnout, enough to drown out anything else that 's going on.

 

70% agree to the measure and ~90% already have a suitable form of ID. Let's help out that 10% and stop talking about it.

 

Let's conjure some up! Say you have a busload of folks that, for some reason or other can't obtain some form of identification. No drivers license, no passport, no visa, no work permits or green cards, no birth certificates, not even one of those cards that come in some new wallets where you fill in your name address etc., no SS card....nothing, nada. You drop off the busload at polling place number 1 and they all pile into the facility and cast their vote (usually for some democrats..they're the one supplying the bus, bad coffee, cokes and tacos) Votes cast, back into the bus and off to polling place number 2. I'm beginning to detect a rudimentary need for implementing ID laws.

 

If this really does happen, why is there no evidence? Are Republicans too dumb to catch them? Or too incompetent to do anything with them if they do? Well, which is it?

 

I won't comment on Republican incompetence. And I used Democrats in the conjuring because they're the party that opposes voter ID. Must be a reason for that, huh?

 

You do understand that if you "conjure up some" It cannot by definition be considered evidence .

 

The fact that minority voter participation in the last two presidential elections increased does not prove that minority voter participation was not suppressed. It might have gone up even more without the efforts of the Republican party.

Second point is if the voter ID laws are implemented you poor Republicans will have to come up with another excuse to explain why you can't win the presidency. Better to keep your well honed excuse than have to come up with a new one.

 

The Republicans are surely culpable for allowing the leftists to write laws promoting their election fraud. Now, the leftists simply lie and squirm.

Tell me Mak2, when a deadbeat comes in and says, "I'm Barack Obama and I live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and the Democrat poll worker winks and hands him a ballot, how to you prosecute when someone notices that Barack Obama isn't a white deadbeat and 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue isn't in Chicago? The voter is, by Democrat Party demand, totally anonymous.

Tell me Mak2, why did the federal government pass a law that said the states could not question citizenship with Jose Jimenez wanted to take advantage of the motor voter law, through an interpreter of course? Why did the Democrats insist the states couldn't question citizenship and why did the Republicans allow it?

 

As real as the sun overhead

Speeding up the voting process is not a useful purpose?
Avoiding clerical errors is not a useful purpose?
Helping insure the integrity of the election especially on smaller close elections doesn't serve a useful purpose?

 

Then prove it was.

 

The right to vote. And you would prove that something prevents voter fraud by first proving voter fraud exists and then demonstrate it's consistent decline where these measures are implemented. Skip the first part and you'll have trouble with the latter.





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Immigration reform seems likely to be the new one.




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The poll worker isn't.





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