70% Favor Voter ID Laws.

I have no problem with voter ID laws. However I think the (1) default postion should be to allow the person to vote. (2) anyone who fraudulently votes, intentionally should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law (3) Republicnas can never again blame voter fruad for them losing elections.

 

Carry democratic thoughts one step further - why do we need a Social Security number to collect social security ? Oops - they're already compromising that system ! But that alright it's only a few.

 

Presenting an ID showing you are whom you claim to be, what don't you understand? Just as you present an ID on routine basis in everyday normal life.

So where is your rational reason not to present your ID to vote just as you do throughout routine life's activities? The ID that any responsible person would already have and carry on their person.

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(2) how do you catch after the fact?

 

So, a man walks into a voting station. He says, "My name is Barack Obama and I live at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. He gets a ballot, or two or three, and goes into the voting booth. After the election, someone, not a liberal, says, "Wait a minute. That wasn't Barack Obama."

Now, at that point, how will anyone be prosecuted? An anonymous man successfully voted for a liberal candidate. There is no way to identify and prosecute him.

Is it possible to deter him from voting illegally in the first place? Of course. Voter ID and penalties for attempting to vote illegally.

Remember Melowese Richardson? She was convicted of voter fraud and sentenced to jail. Being a good Democrat, she got a short sentence, an early release, and was publicly honored and celebrated by liberals as a hero. That, folks, is what we're facing.

 

Fingerprints,take thier picture, purple ink on their tumb, just prosecute one or two and give max penalty. The republicans jsut want to be able to blame their losses on something. It cant be they have lost touch with the majority of Americans and spilt their party...no, it must be Democrats win because they give away free stuff and (even though there is, again, no evidence of voter fraud ever influenceing an election) it has to be becuase of all that there voter fraud. I used to be a far right winger, I too really believed there were bus loads of "them" people driving around voting over and over. Then I actually stopped to think about it. Aint no voter fraud. But if it would shut up the fantasy babble on even one topic on the right, I am all for ID.

 

Fingerprints on what?

Please explain how that would work?

Hey if you want to advocate that go ahead and listen to the uproar.

Again you have to catch them first and once the ballot is cast that is HIGHLY unlikely. Prevention is the best means to do so with simple common sense voter ID.

I don't think you have a clue as to what Republican want but being an Independent myself I want the integrity or our election system insured and a simple commons sense measure such as voter ID goes a long way in insuring that.

 

Don't be snarky it doesn't further the conversation or make you look smarter. All I asked was for you to,define what you meant by " common sense voter ID" I actually assume you mean a photo, government issued ID although you didn't specify that. I can also see where that could be a hardship for some people if they don't already have a drivers license or passport but if the government is willing to,spend the money to make a photo ID readily available then no problem. Maybe make them available at no cost at all SOcial Security, Medicare, etc offices.

 

Well DUH what on earth did you think we were talking about?

And yes only a couple of states have a very low processing fee no different from any other government fee for service, the rest provide free ID's.

So what is the rational reason to oppose voter ID. The state of Mississippi with the poorest population in the country just had an election and there were NO problems reported with the new voter ID law and no complaints about people not being able to vote.

 

During the last Presidential election, one thing the UN observers noted was that they thought it was strange that we didn't have voter ID requirement. It's pretty much the standard around the developed world. You would think lefties would want to be with the rest of the developed world.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/p...icials_amazed_by_trust_based_us_voting_system

 

Your profiling- that's against the law !

 

Thank you for explaining what COMMON SENSE is to the lemmings but since they have no COMMON SENSE they will never understand the concept of COMMON SENSE . Man you've got patience !

 

It might interfere with liberal voter fraud. Of course, Voter ID isn't all we need.

 

^^^ This ignorant comment illustrates the problem.

 

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/n...s/early-voting-curbs-called-power-play/nTFDy/
I'm just going by what GOP officials say.
You're going by the propaganda.....

 

^^^^^ perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black and a guy who's thought process is 180 degrees out.

 

Laws designed to close illegal loopholes is always a good thing.

 

that's exactly what I'd expect from someone completely fooled by propaganda...
And I still haven't seen you produce anything that might be called evidence for your beliefs......

 

Do you really believe the nonsense you throw out there? I just can't believe someone can be in such a state of denial.

 

Oh I agree, we need to get rid of on the street voter registration by volunteers who had no authority and do not check the persons ID. You should have to go to the courthouse or satellite present your proof of where you live and who you are to register to vote. Absentee should be the same. I have vote absentee a few times and went to my local county office and did so affirming who I was to a clerk under threat of perjury.

 

ROFLMAO Charlie Crist and felony Jim Greer both of whom kicked out of the party Greer pleading guilty to stealing money from the GOP. Now that's rich.

 

Yeah, but what they said is true...

 

its popular because it supports fair elections. I dont see what the big surprise is since trust in government is at an all time low for all party supporters.

Voter ID is no brainer IMO as it benefits everyone other than shady political parties trying to rob the voting public.

 

ROFLMAO Charlie Crist and felony Jim Greer both of whom kicked out of the party Greer pleading guilty to stealing money from the GOP. Now that's rich. You'll have to come up with something better than two people who were ousted by the Republicans one of which plead guilty to embezzling money from them.

Still waiting for that rational reason to not have voter ID, you know what the UN international observers were shocked we didn't have. A very common sense measure to protect the integrity of our election system.

 

Really, Rational?
You don't believe the people who were in the room....

How about you tell me how many people voted as someone else.....?

How about I tell you.....31 over the last 15 years....out of a billion votes cast....

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/08/07/31-in-a-billion-election-experts-report-shatter/200359

But that's just the ones that got caught, and investigators testing the system recently in New York, I believe were able to obtain 58 ballots in 60 attempts, only two got caught, so if we assume the same ratio holds (unless you have better data)
there could have been 900 people who got away with voting as someone else....over the last 15 years...
What's the "rational" response??

 

I don't believe the two you cited.

How can I when no one can know.

Prove that each of those billion votes was confirmed to have been cast by the person listed on the polling list.

As I said it is a specious statement since a billion votes were not examined and confirmed.

And know you math over a non-cited study of which your memory is questionable does not constitute a statistical study.