A good start with EO's.

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Because government is screwing it up. It is materially black and white.
     
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    that's why we have a weak nation with millions of suffering, survival of the fittest is for animals, not humans needing a strong civil society.
     
  3. DaveBN

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    Not true. Plenty of first world countries are able to provide healthcare to their citizens for a fraction of what US citizens pay for their health insurance.
     
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    This guy?

    Fauci: Trump administration's lack of facts on COVID "very likely" cost lives

    President Biden's chief medical adviser Anthony Fauci acknowledged on CNN's "New Day" Friday that the Trump administration's resistance to following the science on coronavirus policy "very likely" cost lives.


    Why it matters: Fauci, the government's top infectious-diseases expert, clashed on numerous occasions with former President Trump after contradicting him on scientific issues like the efficacy of masks and the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine in combating COVID-19.

    He was sidelined toward the end of the Trump presidency in favor of advisers like Scott Atlas, who frequently pushed coronavirus misinformation.

    https://news.yahoo.com/fauci-trump-administrations-lack-candor-123418066.html
     
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    Yes, Trump was screwing it up. I agree.
     
  6. fmw

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    For Pete's sake. He got the vaccine in record time. It is the states who have messed up the distribution.
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scientists developed the vaccine in record time. Trump did WHAT EVERY PREZ WOULD HAVE DONE, give them extra funding. Then he failed to do WHAT EVERY PREZ WOULD HAVE DONE. Design a plan for distribution of it.

    (CNN)Newly sworn in President Joe Biden and his advisers are inheriting no coronavirus vaccine distribution plan to speak of from the Trump administration, sources tell CNN, posing a significant challenge for the new White House.

    The Biden administration has promised to try to turn the Covid-19 pandemic around and drastically speed up the pace of vaccinating Americans against the virus. But in the immediate hours following Biden being sworn into office on Wednesday, sources with direct knowledge of the new administration's Covid-related work told CNN one of the biggest shocks that the Biden team had to digest during the transition period was what they saw as a complete lack of a vaccine distribution strategy under former President Donald Trump, even weeks after multiple vaccines were approved for use in the United States.
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccination-trump/index.html
     
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    HHS did design one and put a general in charge of it. The problem is that they put government in charge of it.
     
  9. DaveBN

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    For Pete’s sake he had next to nothing to do with the production of the vaccine.
     
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    He didn't work at the pharma companies but it wouldn't have happened without him.
     
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    Fauci the guy who was against masks before he was for them? Fauci who in January bought the Chinese / WHO lie that there was no human to human spread. The problem with Novel viruses is that you start out with no facts and a crap load of guess work and there will always be blind alleys and rat holes people, including scientists run down early on. And of course Fauci has to **** on Trump if he wants to keep his cushy job in DC.
     
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    Right, the German scientists at a German company in Germany wouldn’t have produced the vaccine if not for Trump? That smells like a load to me.
     
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    You don't even realize that you answered your own phony "concerns". Yeah that guy, Fauci, not the guy who suggested injecting disinfectant to cure a deadly virus and rejected science in favor of quackery.
     
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    Then how come we still don't have a vaccine for aids?
     
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    You’ll have to explain how you thought this was a relevant question.
     
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    One. Democrats burning the forests in CA is a major cause of climate change. Top priority should be to get rid of Democrats.
    Two. The US is far more efficient than China, far less GHG per unit GDP. Make the US more competitive to insource production.

    That's a start. Renewable is fine, but keep clowns like Governor Brownout out of our energy sector. Power generation must use dispatchable power like Nuclear, Hydro or Geothermal.
     
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    That isn't what was said. Which you would know by now had any intellectual curiosity at all.
     
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    You'll have to explain why you thought GM could make vaccines...
     
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    When did I suggest that they could?
     
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    You do understand when you say "government" it is comprised individual people, right? So the more accurate way to express your assertion is, "the members of the Trump admin in HHS were the problem."
     
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    You are the one suggest Biden could use the same act Trump used to get more respirators and PPE made for making vaccines...
     
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    You do know what a multi national us don't you?
     
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    By the way your boy Biden just reversed Trump's executive order that brought down the cost if insulin and epinephren. I guess big pharma owns a piece Joe's scrawny ass too.
     
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    Yeah right, most of the people in charge have been in charge of something of the other in DC for decades.
     
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    What makes you think he couldn’t?
     

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