Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan between Taliban and USA

That’s cute. Facts as in numerous sources listed against your various opinions stated as facts with zero sources. Maybe you just don’t know how to use the quote function yet for exterior links. I would be happy to show you.


Btw this is one of my favorite posts from another poster here in a while — shows your narrative perfectly — or at least what you think of yourself

I too would run away and start slinging childish personal attacks while avoiding any facts in the case like you have had I called out my position to be as biased.

I have never seen someone admit their desire to cover up troop deaths to defend their chosen representative. That was a first.

You do you though. I believed you used the criterion of “weak”, let’s go with that.

 

Why do we care. Our mission was to get out of Afghanistan without more Americans dying

The Bagram base was evacuated on July 6 more than a month before the Taliban reached Kabul. No dice

Which has to do with what? You thought it would be better to wait until the Taliban and Afgans were in a war in Kabul to evacuate even if they did fight?
Ridiculous

What Bush did has nothing to do with what Biden did. The level of incompetence it took to evacuate the airbase and troops before civilians speaks for itself.
The level of incompetence it took to order a midnight evacuation while under occupation leaving Americans behind then going on vacation for 4 days speaks for itself
The level of incompetence it took to refuse calls from our allies that had no idea what was going on speaks for itself.

All Biden had to do was evacuate before the Taliban reached Kabul just like he did with the airbase. Common sense.

 

That is complete bs. Rocket attacks on us military bases happens weekly. !!!

 

Zero sources huh.
How many sources do you need to prove Biden evacuated the same night the Taliban occupied Kabul when he could have done it before occupation
How many sources do you need to prove Biden evacuated our troops and embassy leaving Americans behind
How many sources do you need to prove Biden evacuated our only airbase 30 days prior without being attacked
How many sources do you need to prove Biden ordered the evacuation, leaving Americans behind, then left for a 4 day vacation at Camp David

If you need sources for these that have no possible excuses other than incompetence, then go get caught up on the facts, then come back instead of offering your opinions that obviously have no bearing on the reality of the situation.

I'm just mad because Biden beat Trump? Thats your big evolution? Speaks for itself

When you find a fact to provide, let me know.

Coming from the guy who thinks 100,000 people and every NATO ally we have just ignored or forgot this memo to evacuate and thats why they got caught behind enemy lines because he found a link, I'll just consider the source.

 

How much of that equipment was purchased by the Afghan army over the last 20 years? I would bet quite a bit. Were we supposed to take what they had purchased? At the end of the first Gulf War, we left lots and lots of equipment in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. They paid us for much of it.

 

Which has what to do with anything listed? I missed the point.
Or were you going to list any American soldier that was killed or wounded during the 18 month agreement.

 

None after signing the agreement which would have been the same number had Biden evacuated prior to occupation.
Didn't Biden evacuate the air base 30 days prior? How many Americans were attacked or killed then?
If you knew you were going to evacuate, why expose your troops and American civilians instead of evacuating at the same time?
Oh yeah, He wanted his 9/11 photo op

 

Your previous post you claimed no us soldier was attacked.

 

So are you going to provide this information of US Soldiers being attacked during the cease fire or are we just supposed to take your word for it?

 

I recently read a report issued by the UN last year stating that the Taliban's relationship with al Qaeda has not changed at all over the past 20 years. which is why AQ still has a presence in Afghanistan.

We're kidding ourselves if we think that is suddenly going to change now that the Taliban are back in power.

If that's not worrisome enough, consider the fact that the people steering the ship of state today are the same people who sat back and did nothing when Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's genocidal Islamist blood cult blew up in 2014, and some of them go back to the Clinton Administration that sat back and did nothing while AQ blew up in the 1990s.

Add to that the fact that none of our enemies abroad respect or fear Joe Biden and we've got a recipe for disaster on our hands.

 

Why? The Taliban violated it and Biden dismissed it for his own policy and we see the disaster he created by doing so.

 

There was a Trump plan and then a Biden plan, don't conflate the two to try and save Biden's arse.

 

FYI, they attack us military bases with rockets. So every soldier and contractor is being attacked. You also ignore the contractors that have been killed or wounded. Since in Afghanistan we use contractors more than usual.

 

Se my comments in red above

So you claim Biden broke the agreement and left troops there, but then claim in the next sentence that he didn't have support there for the withdrawal. Which is it, did he break the agreement by keeping them there, or did he get out too soon ?

 

yes he tried to pass the buck.. TO HIMSELF.. you know he ran for re election right?

 

7 Soldiers were killed by the Taliban in 2020 AFTER the agreement was signed
Prove it

Why would you need more soldiers to evacuate if you did it before Taliban occupation. That makes no sense.
And if that were true then Biden knew that in advance so why didn't he react? Catch 22, isn't it

Not my claim. I have no idea what you're talking about[/QUOTE]

 

So are you going to provide this information of US Soldiers being attacked during the cease fire or are we just supposed to take your word for it?

 

Yeah the Taliban just laid down due to Trump. Care to provide info on that. If there were no rocket attacks then why did we keep the air defense there

 

Here is some more.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan-attack-idUSKCN21R0TL

 

The US spent 83 billion in provisions to the Afghan army. They didn't pay for it.

 

Here is some more.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-afghanistan-attack-idUSKCN21R0TL

 

trump had an outline that left out the host country and declared ISIS defeated. Biden had a plan that relied on the Afghan security forces not immediately surrendering with no contingencies.

What am I conflating?
Where have I defended Biden besides saying I am glad he actually followed through?

 

Dupe

 

Five rockets hit a major U.S. air base in Afghanistan on Thursday but there were no casualties, Afghanistan’s NATO-led force said, in an attack claimed by the Islamic State militant group.

That isn't the Taliban
What else ya got

 

Trumps plan was responsible for the cease fire with no more Americans killed for 18 months
Trumps plan evacuated 3 US military bases without conflict
Trumps plan evacuated 13,000 US soldiers without a single attack
Trumps plan released 1000 Afghan military personnel

All Biden had to do was evacuate 2500 troops, 1 air base, and civilians over a course of time without Taliban intervention.

And you thought it would be better to evacuate when the Taliban got to Kabul, fighting the Afghan army instead of doing it before they got there? Thats the new excuse?
The failure was because the Afghan army didn't fight? Who would even consider that reasonable?