Am I one of the last undecided voters? Who should I vote for?

I cannot tell you who to vote for. So instead I will tell you why I am voting for Trump. I originally voted for him mainly because of SCOTUS and what Hillary said in regards to it. Hillary would use the courts in a political way and that I could not accept. Our courts are supposed to be neutral. Apolitcal. And she was rather open about wanting to ignore Heller. Well, she didn't say those exact words of course. But that is what I got from it.

I am voting for him again because of a few reasons this time.

1: Tulsi Gabbard is not on the ticket. I would have voted for her because while she had some policies that I didn't like I believe her to be more stable than Trump. NOT saying Trump is crazy. But like you said, his ego is a problem. I don't believe him to be in any sort of cognitive decline.

2: Biden however most definitely has some sort of cognitive decline. He has admitted that he will be a one term President. And many believe that he will resign at some point in his Presidency. Personally I expect him to "resign" about 6 months in when TPTB can no longer hide his decline sufficiently. In other words he is just a place holder for the DNC's actual pick. Kamala Harris's background in regards to law enforcement is unacceptable to me to trust her with being POTUS. She purposefully screwed 1500 some odd people from being free and tried to get the evidence that exonerated a person rejected. I cannot in good conscience vote for someone that has so little respect for our Rights, our freedoms, and has no regard towards innocence.

3: I like Trumps stance on illegal immigration. I of course knew that he would never be able to accomplish getting Mexico to pay for a wall. The left likes to say that he lied about it. But in fact he just failed at it. Because he actually did try to get Mexico to pay for it. If he hadn't at least tried then they could rightly say that he lied, but he did try. Which means he just failed. Not lied.

4: Like you I trust Trump with the economy more than Biden, or Harris. I know many leftist like to blame him for the current economy but plain fact of the matter is that covid is what caused the shutdown, which in turn caused the economy to sink like it did.

5: Trump is trying to bring our Troops home. Ironically the Dems used to want to do the same thing. Far more of them objected to the Iraq War than Republicans. And although they mostly supported Obama in the wars he started I believe that they did so only because they thought it was necessary. That however has changed. Now Dems are straight up for war and are doing everything that they can to stop ANY troop pull out. Who knows, maybe they just got a taste for it under Obama and gradually changed stances on it. I don't know. Either way, I support bringing our Troops home, and so does Trump.

6: You are correct about health care and Trump. But a person can't agree with everything a POTUS does/have. That's an impossibility no matter who it is.

7: And lastly....Democrats have gone off the freaking DEEEEEEP END. While they won't say it openly or directly they ARE for open borders. The ONLY way an open borders policy would work is if we had a one world government. We don't have that and are not going to have that any time soon. An open borders policy would ruin the US resource wise. We simply do not have the resources to handle 7 billion people. Combine that with Democrats wanting to give illegal immigrants free health care and their plan is just plain ole crazy. Additionally many Democrats have been letting riots go on and on. Something that should have had non-partisan support in stopping. Instead we get people like Nadler claiming its a myth. Despite all the evidence to the contrary. They have slashed the budgets of police forces and as a result crime has skyrocketed in the areas where this has been done. What was it....177% increase in NYC alone?

There are other reasons, but those are my biggest reasons that I am going to vote for Trump 2020. Unless something really major comes along of course. I reserve my right to change my mind.

 

Don't accuse me of being a troll. It's not appreciated. I'm not a troll. You think I am, put me on ignore but the accusation is a personal attack.
I said my list was incomplete. I didn't call Joe Biden, Einstein and yes, he also has signs of cognitive decline. I said elsewhere in this very thread that I expect him to be president for a short time. Why do you suppose I expect that? I said, I was listing for each ticket's pros and cons just a sample of what I think, lest the OP would be too long and people would say TLDR.
I also said I can perfectly afford to buy health insurance and even pay out of pocket for healthcare. Your jab about that is meaningless because from the nature of my work (healthcare) I worry about the health of others, not just my own.
No, I don't think Joe would have a vaccine this fast WHICH IS PRECISELY WHY I STARTED MY PRO'S FOR TRUMP MENTIONING HIS VISION IN VACCINES!!!!
My ideas about who to blame for the outbreak are too complex to fit in the OP but for shorter I blame everybody (while also excusing everybody for some aspects of it) which includes the Trump administration, the governors, the mayors, and... us, the people.
I also praised Trump for his stance in China. Are you actually READING the OP???
And don't tell me don't vote. I'm an eligible citizen and it's not up to you if I vote or not.

Unbelievable...

 

One thing @Kal'Stang touched on that I was thinking about before reading that post is SCOTUS.

RBG may not make if four more years, and we have one other justice who way up there in years.

If there is another Supreme Court replacement:

Trump will choose an "originalist interpreter" of the Constitution. I know Democrats will disagree, but the Republican choices do seem to far less partisan in votes. As backup to that statement, we've seen Roberts disappoint and anger the right wing many times, and Gorsuch has also made decisions which were analyzed as siding with the left. I believe these men are sincerely just trying to put politics aside and be neutral.

Kamala Harris, on the other hand, has said she would like to stack the Supreme Court, adding more left-leaning justices to the point that the court would always vote progressively. Even if she were to only get one or two choices for SCOTUS without changing the number of justices on the bench, she will choose a highly partisan nominee who has a "living Constitution" interpretation rather than and originalist view.

A neutral court may slow down the speed of radical change, and I think that's a good thing. Having a court decide on major issues based on the trends and fads of today may look like huge errors in 20-30 years when political trends and fads are very different.

 

Yes, you know. The clue was in the fact that it's actually the Dem Party's leadership being racially divisive. From their pundits to their politicians they are promoting endless racial tensions and rioting violence. Nor is this a new thing with them.

For instance, Barack Obama racially agitated for eight years from the world's first ever necessity for a Beer Sumit to, "If I had a son he would look like Travon," and the POLITICAL endorsement of the blatant lie that Michael Brown was a gentle giant. So ignoring these facts mean that you are much more politically and ideologically at home with the Dem Party's philosophy. Thus, vote Dem. Problem solved.

 

Trump by another name.

 

So as a supporter of the "originalist" Constitution you are all in FAVOR of slavery because that was what was in the ORIGINAL version of the Constitution?

Let's look a little deeper. The Founding Fathers IMPLEMENTED gun owner REGISTRATION (well regulated) and UNIVERSAL healthcare (welfare of the people) for sailors under the auspices of the ORIGINAL version of the Constitution. So are you in FAVOR of REGISTERING all gun owners and implementing UHC too?

Or are you actually just a CHERRY PICKER who will immediately DISAVOW those aspects of the ORIGINAL version of the Constitution?

Sad!

 

I would vote for Tulsi Gabbard. I don't know what she is saying, I just like looking at her.

 

We need a federal minimum for healthcare that provides basic services (including dentistry) and preventative healthcare healthcare at an extremely low or no cost to the recipient. This would actually pay for itself through lower serious ailments, treating conditions early, increased productivity...

The states should be able to expand upon this.

 

One of my favorite questions is 'why'. Often, when I'm trying to understand something I using a rolling 'why'. In this case - your question - I ask myself 'why' does each candidate want to be president. And the answer - for me - is that Trump wants to be president for personal reasons and Biden, for the betterment of the country. Biden has spent his life serving the country - while, for Trump, this is another notch.

 

The icing on the cake for me — so to speak — is to vote against his supporters and what has been made acceptable
This cannot be made into the new norm
Our country will not survive

 

Yes, they promote teaching homosexuality in public schools.
What is a point to teach children homosexuality other then to prepare them to be sexual partners for pederasts?
Schools have no business to teach any kind of sexuality.

 

If you look at the Trump's interviews on YouTube over the years, you will see that he was and is very consistent on the subject of betterment of the country.
Actually he is most patriotic person that we have ever seen at that level of power.
You can blame Trump for his stupidity and lack of reasoning and judgement, but you can't blame that he wants to be a president for personal reason.

 

I look at a person's actions rather than what they say. In order to be an effective POTUS, he should read his daily briefings. He doesn't. In order to be POTUS for the whole country, he should want the best for ALL citizens of ALL states - instead, he attacks left wing governors or their states. If he was interested in the country over himself, he wouldn't cheer on the languishing state of the USPS - particularly in the months leading up to an election. And, perhaps, in the most self serving act, Trump has mentioned his face being added to Mt. Rushmore. Even if he was joking, it is a most self serving act for POTUS.

 

The expansion of actual healthcare is something I have been promoting for years. Not insurance, which seems to be some people's go to.

Sliding scale clinics that address basic healthcare, and act as triage for matters for immediate care or transfer to an ER. Again, at a sliding scale.

The expense of ER visits when unnecessary, the front load pre-payment of insurance that is NOT healthcare, and basic WellCare can help a great deal of people.

That's why the insurance industry will fight tooth and nail to prevent it.

 

It is terrifying that you confuse consensual adult relationships with child rape.
Hopefully you are not allowed around small children.

 

He is doing right thing, the lefties should be totally excluded from the power, since they are destabilizing the country. That is a reason to vote for Trump.
But yes a la guerre comme à la guerre, the lefties have declared the war from the start, he has to fight them.

 

I might be able to make this easy depending on your views on climate change. Only one of these teams believes its a problem to solve and only one intends to play a role in solving it. Sooo if you think that carbon emissions/greenhouse gases might well be impacting the climate either now or in the next generation or two, in such a way are to alter weather patterns, induce serious disruptions in wildlife, in fish, invertebrate and amphibian populations, agricultural practices and fauna propagation, and eventually human migration, then you will want the team that feels there is a duty to act.

If you are one of those people, there literally is not two choices here because there just is not 4 years to waste on the rest of the partisan crap.

 

You know, I have no obligation not to be confused.
If you don't want me not to be confuse, then explain WHY children should be taught homosexuality.
The only explanation that I come up is to brainwash them that homosexuality is normal and good, so when they grow up and become targets of homosexual predators.
There is no other reason to teach children homosexuality.
NONE whatsoever.
I can understand that they should be explained why relationship between man and woman might lead to pregnancy, but homosexuality has nothing to do with education.

 

I'm voting trump but if you are torn between who to vote for, then vote with your wallet and toss all emotions out the window

 

Because it is a human characteristic and impacts a sizable portion of the population. It diminishes bullying, has been shown to reduce mental illness and self harm in teens and young adults that have questions regarding their sexuality.

Is heterosexuality and safe sex education only taught so they can be the target of heterosexual predators?

You also cannot discern between an adult relationship and child rape so I will take your understanding with a grain of salt.

 

First, let me admit, a lot of my vote is against Trump.
Why? You might ask.
It's because I think they are right. He is a liar, a cheat and a thief.
I don't think anyone disputes the lies. I mean people actually started counting them because they became so numerous.
What can you say about a guy that would steal from his charitable foundation to pay for his legal problems, not to mention with a porn star. Clinton was bad enough for messing around with an intern, but an aging porn star while your wife is pregnant?
So no. If he can't be trusted with such basic things, I can't trust him with my vote.
I think warp speed is nice too. But I don't see it as anything anyone wouldn't do. I look back at the way Obama Biden handled H1N1 and Ebola and I can see what a proper response to this would have been. What Trump did with the pandemic is a crime and he is still doing it by placing money ahead of lives. Even of children.
There is little doubt the economy has taken a big hit. Most of it will pop right back if we can get control of the virus. The rest is just -- gone. This is the part that needs a plan. I'm not crazy about Biden's green stuff as a fix, but at least he is thinking about it.
I'm a capitalist so I have a little different view on China. The thing people overlook is that American companies sell hundreds of billions of dollars in goods to China that they manufacture in China. We overlook this when we look at the trade deficit.
Besides, his approach has screwed a lot of Americans and increased our costs.
What he did with NAFTA 2.0 is a joke.
When you need to threaten your allies with sanctions, like with the Iran deal, you can be pretty sure your on the wrong track. The same with the Russian pipeline to Germany.
I'm fed up with both parties on immigration, but short of a comprehensive plan like the gang of 8 proposed, that the Republicans shot down, a wall is not the answer. We need to get the illegals we have out in the open to get the low end of the wage scale up.
The most important thing Biden has going for him, in my mind, is that he is honest, shows sincere empathy and has the best interest of the country.
I like Harris for one reason. She is smart.
I'll think some more about something good about Trump. I did like the tax cuts, but then I think about my kids paying for them and figure they need the money more than I do.
Don't talk to me about healthcare. What Trump is doing to 15 or 20 million people is another crime.
My oldest son had kidney cancer. Thought he had pretty good insurance thru work. Now he's about to be on the hook for about $120K not covered. So he refinanced his house, bought a new car and is getting ready to file for bankruptcy. Doesn't make any sense.
So there is my rant.

 

It's not as simple. I have many rightist positions too. For example, a ticket proposing free healthcare for illegal aliens is quite disqualifying in my view. Anyway, I'm used to being castigated by both the leftists and the rightists for my centrist views, so I'm not surprised that by mentioning my views out there I'm getting this kind of push back. But thanks for your thoughts.

 

Bingo. That is exactly what is wrong with the electoral system. Unless you are in a swing state your vote is meaningless.

 

Like I said, I am in a swing state.

 

How are children being taught “adult homosexuality”?
Also, you didn’t answer my very simple question.