America's Obsession With Guns Must Stop

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  1. Leffe

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    Beijing (CNN) -- Twenty-two primary school children were wounded in a knife attack Friday in central China, authorities said.
     
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    this school had fairly good security. the office buzzed the shooter in because they recognized him since his mother worked there.
     
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    loonies attacking childern....and we haven't even started on the Taliban and their schoolgirl fetish.
     
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    Typical liberal response to the deep seated problems plauging the troubled mind(s) of these murderers. The often quoted line of "guns don't kill people--people kill people" is oh so appropriate here in addressing the ignorance behind your post. The green river serial killer killed upwards of 90 young women, and Ted Bundy killed perhaps half as many young women without using a gun, and in fact strangled all of their victims, yet we didn't see this kind of outrage to place a permanent ban on the arms and hands of all the potential male murderers living here in America. Guns aren't going anywhere, despite the will of liberals to ban them by usurping our 2nd Amendment rights. What we need is to have all 50 states pass laws that make it legal for people to carry concealed guns on their person in order to stop any and all future sporadic gun rages like this latest one, as all gun toting criminals know that they're less likely to commit a shooting spree when others have a defense at their side to offset the madness.
     
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    Doubt it, but he could have killed more with a bomb right? Dont you see Margot? ,,,once a persons mind is made up he/she will get the job done.

    Any fish you wish!

    People wanted the Trade towers gone, even if it meant high jacking Jets and crashing them into them,,sounds absurd.
     
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    Even under our class-war government we jail a far smaller proportion of our citizens than you do. You are beating Stalin's gulags, so they tell me.
     
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    You are right, every single time. And when it is Kindergarteners, bless each of their souls, watch out.

    The left wants government control. They vote for it every time. The biggest thing protecting freedom is for the people to be armed. When you take arms away just imagine what a liberal government would do from there. We, as a people, can and should rise up to stand against a tyrannical government if the need arises.
     
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    What has that got to do with your constitutional right to murder children then? Someone was ranting on about the Queen recently, on this subject too. If you throw round guns like confetti no-one has any freedom; EVERYONE LIVES IN FEAR OF DEATH.
     
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    I suppose the 'left' is people who want you to stop you facilitating murder. You are one very sick lot of ole boys, incha?
     
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    I can not speak for your country, there are so many factors. Sweden thought legalized prostitution would work, crime got worse. Now it's illegal again.

    Yes a knife may be less, but bombs would be more.....So if this fellow wanted to attack the school and could not get a gun [Highly doubtful with any laws] he would have used a bomb.
    Never underestimate the human resolve.....
     
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    In 1774 the British general Gage began taking weapons from the American colonists to ensure that they could not fight back. Throughout history, countries wishing to lord over others have confiscated means for other countries to fight. Certainly the American colonists were not the only ones the Irtish did this to, as the Irish certainly got their fair share of it too.

    They can have my guns when they are pulled from my proverbial chilled and deceased hands. Next on ym list is an M&P sporter before those get banned out of foolish reactionary nonsense.

    The problem is not guns, any more than it is machetes or an acerbic wit. The problem is Americans are, in my opinion, violent and ignorant fools. Maybe if we as a nation did not encourage teh most base and violent behavior through our callous and greedy nature, such things as this would not happen.
     
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    Only people protesting at the invasion of Muslim countries use bombs here now, since the American-funded IRA reached a deal. It is a matter of social atmosphere, and your obsession with guns makes yours a bit sick, surely?
     
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    As proven by the Soviets overwhelming victory in Afghanistan and bolstered by the swift and decisive war that the US has also waged there.
     
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    Let all the gun-nuts go back to the Eighteenth Century and shoot one another. Any disciplined body of troops would clear that rabble in five minutes. Constitutional right my American elbow!
     
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    Something is loose in your thinking. Not a single person here thinks murder is the answer be it with gun or anything else.

    There are a host of items that can be used to kill you. Topping the list could be prescription medications given in wrong amounts or ill prescribed. baseball bats, cars, kitchen knives, large rocks, human hands, aspirin, rat poison, pillows.

    Why not stop the whining over guns and give equal billing to other items. Use something other than liberal logic, an emotionally based thinking method that distorts reality, to sort out the situation.
     
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    Guns are needed to murder, and you make guns available, because they are far more effective than anything else, and you build up a social atmosphere of hate and fear so that your masters can sell more guns. I couldn't care less about your naive rantings about people being easily killed by being stepped on by elephants or whatever other drivel you shovel in: you support guns, you support murder. And the last blanketty liberal in my family died in 1927, incidentally.
     
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    Be honest with yourself, liberalism lives on in your family. Alive and well I'd say.

    Just because guns are designed to harm does not mean their intended use is be used to murder. Only liberal logic would find sense in that. If someone intends harm on you it is the best thing to have in your hand and you don't even have to use it to harm, only threaten harm.

    I stand by the right to have arms for no other reason than it protects from the likes of you and those who think like you.
     
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    Do you think you could kill 30 people in 30 minutes with any of the weapons you mentioned?
     
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    What must stop is America's obsession with drugs and gross movies and television shows that shows these ghastly killings, where murdering people no longer seems shocking. We have always had guns. We haven't had the kinds of murders we see today at schools and malls. Mostly committed by young people.
     
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    I'll give up my 2nd amendment right the moment someone can convince me that they have the authority to:

    1) Deny a free, responsible individual the ability to own an object that, on its own, poses a threat to no one, and
    2) Deny that individual the ability to use what ever means necessary in defense of themselves from those that do him harm.



    Those that surrender liberty for security deserve neither. (One of my favorite paraphrases)
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    England and Scotland banded guns and now they are trying to band knives.
     
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    So, you are not a firearm expert..nice of you to admit it.....
     
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    I could with a bottle of propane and a trigger device...maybe even more
    Tell me, how many more Rights do you require I give up? Where does it end?
    Unarmed citizen = subject.
    Subject =no Rights
    No Rights = gov't slave
    How does one insure their Rights without the means to enforce those Rights? Stnad and protest? Worked real well in Tiienimin Square, didn't it?
     
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    20 kids as young as 5 no longer have their liberty to life, so that you can have your liberty to own a gun...
     
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